norest4thewicked
True Crime Writer
Please put your thoughts here about Lisa and the river. There has been too much off topic discussion about the river and no thread for it.
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It's not known for sure that Zaylee went into the river with her mother. It's a good possibility, but no one knows for sure. We have a thread for Zaylee here on WS.
Yes, this is about Lisa, but your first post mentioning Zaylee didn't state that it was your opinion that Zaylee went into the river. It implied that it's a known fact that she did. It's very frustrating to navigate Lisa's forum when opinions are frequently presented as facts. It just adds to the overall misinformation in Lisa's case.
Little Zaylee Grace Fryar went into the Cumberland river here in Nashville with her mother and was never found. Her mother's body was found, an apparent suicide, but Zaylee never was. A baby is a pretty small body. When you compare 100+ pounds to a baby's weight, it's completely logical that this little body is just either caught somewhere underwater or that the elements just destroyed it. This is a horrible thought, but it happens.
http://www.wkrn.com/story/14601433/e...r-missing-baby
During the Sandra Cantu case IIRC, I found a link (which I cannot find now)
that women usually dispose of children in containers in water......
back to the womb verses men who bury.
If the mother disposed of the baby I would think the river would be the way to go.
This link is broken.
I think it's very possible that had Lisa been placed in the water her little body would never be found. In cityslick's post it says that the river runs very fast in that part of town, it would not take much for a baby that size to be quickly swept away. We're talking about a baby, not a grown adult whose body may have been easier to find.
JMHO
Are there any locks and dams on the Missouri River in the KC area or just downstream from the KC area? Sometimes bodies have been found in rivers when they got caught in a dam. Of course, with Lisa being so relatively small compared with an adult, I don't know if her little body would get caught as easily.
I agree. And, I think that it's possible that she went into the river in a container, possibly weighted down. If that is the case, then there might be a better chance for her to be discovered, but not if it stays on the bottom. We do know that many bodies in containers do surface eventually, but a container to hold her little body might not have been that large and could possibly just go along the bottom until it finally stuck somewhere. Horrible thought...
Someone said on another thread (I think it was In Da Middle) that it would be difficult to get to the river from DB's house. Does anyone have any photos of the terrain going down to the river? Also, how far are the closest bridges to Lisa's house? TIA
I think the fact that the fire department was doing drills is relevant. I don't know how relevant, a lot of it I think would depend on when she actually was placed in the river, when they started doing drills and how far down the river they (the FD) were. When Nat had originally posted that response from KCPD, my first reaction (which of course may be wrong) was that KCPD was going off an assumption that it is somewhat possible that the FD would had saw something, even with the current the morning of the 4th if BL was placed in the river.