WA WA - Wilkeson, OtherFem 30-50, UP5691, in woods, Pacific Lutheran Univ sweatshirt, Reeboks, Oct'97

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The Doe Network:
922UFWA
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/922ufwa.html
NamUs UP Case 5691 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/5691

Unidentified Female

The victim was discovered on October 13, 1997 in Wilkeson, Pierce County, Washington.
Estimated Date of Death: 1986-1995.
State of Remains: Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton.
One or more limb and one or both hands not recovered.
Cause and Manner of Death: Unknown.

Vital Statistics

Estimated Age: 27-50 years old.
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'2" to 5'6" and unknown weight.
Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair and unknown eye color. Unknown race.
Clothing: "Russell" dark blue long sleeved sweat shirt with a logo of Pacific Lutheran University with basketball logo and "LUTES", "Union Bay" blue jeans (size 7),
"Reebok" white tennis shoes with yellow & green trim (size 4.5)
Dentals: X-rays and photographs are available. This individual was treated for a mandibular symphysis fracture and there is an inter osseous wire at the mandibular
inferior border. This individual may have worn a mandibular removable partial denture. Dental data in NDIR.
DNA: Sample available - Not yet submitted.
Fingerprints: Not available.

Case History
The victim was found by a person walking through the woods near mile post 9 on Gale Creek Road and Quinnon Extension Road in Wilkeson, Washington, on October 13, 1997.
 
This newly added NamUs MP fits pretty closely to this Jane Doe:

Ramona Lynn Fey
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14348/44
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* Age (39) is good (UID Est. 27-50)
* Height (5'5") is good (UID Est. 5'4")
* Hair Color (Brown) is good.
* Timeframe (DLC 17-Jul-95 to 13-Oct-97 or a little over 2 years) is a little under the PM interval (about 5 years), but not completely out of line.
* Location - She was last seen in Ashford, which is about 60 miles by highway from Wilkeson, but more like about 25 miles if walking through the woods.

Also, the UID was wearing a sweatshirt with a Pacific Lutheran University logo on it. Ramona's hometown of Spanaway WA is only about 3-4 miles from the PLU campus (in Parkland WA).

The big question is dentals and whether she had a history of a broken jaw. The UID was treated for a fractured jaw and had a "inter osseous wire at the mandibular inferior border" to treat that fracture, and also might have had a lower partial denture.
 
Something in her profile struck me as odd. The shoes that were found on her are reported as size 4.5. I believe that that would be a youth size shoe. She would have to be a very small woman to have a shoe size that small.

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boys shoe size 4 1/2 = womens size 6 1/2 shoe.
 
Something in her profile struck me as odd. The shoes that were found on her are reported as size 4.5. I believe that that would be a youth size shoe. She would have to be a very small woman to have a shoe size that small.

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I noticed that too -- 4 1/2 is small -- I wonder if it is sizing for the UK (my size 9 shoes say that they a size 6 in the UK) or another international location.
 
Susan Marable has been in NamUs for quite awhile, but they just added a photo.

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https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20410/0

Look at her chin. She has a small scar at the midline, and her chin appears to be mis-shaped.

Jane Doe UP5691 is described as having:

Surgical wiring in mandible to left of midline

And BTW,
* Her Age (34-35) is solidly within the 30-50 Age estimate
* The 6-year timeframe (From 21-Apr-91 to 13-Oct-97) is pretty close to the 5-year PM interval.
* The distance from Yakima WA to Wilkeson WA is about 120 miles.
* Her height (60-62 inches) is a little low compared to the 65 inch estimate of UP5691. (62-66 inches according to DoeNet).
 
Janet Franson says that they have dentals on both the MP and UP, so she is forwarding it to the Forensic Odontologist for a "look-see".

Incidentally, if anyone wants to contact her on any other matters, she will be unavailable until July 17th. She is moving to Texas from Wyoming.
 
Janet Franson says that they have dentals on both the MP and UP, so she is forwarding it to the Forensic Odontologist for a "look-see".

Incidentally, if anyone wants to contact her on any other matters, she will be unavailable until July 17th. She is moving to Texas from Wyoming.

Just got word back from Janet Franson. The FO says that this Jane Doe is not Susan Marable.
 
Just got word back from Janet Franson. The FO says that this Jane Doe is not Susan Marable.

While they had this Jane Doe on their front burner, I figured I might as well ask them to check out Ramona Fey, as well.
 
boys shoe size 4 1/2 = womens size 6 1/2 shoe.

I'm a few inches shorter than the UI and can wear anything between a 4 in kids and a 7 in women's. You can save a lot of money by shopping in the kids section!

Current exclusions:
First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
Diane Leslie Reeves 1966 Washington
Katya Lyne 1981 Washington
Michelle Maitland 1966 Washington
Susan Marable 1956 Washington
 
Never heard of this one. I live in the county.
 
Updated ruleouts from her Namus https://identifyus.org/en/cases/5691


The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:

First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

Diane Leslie Reeves 1966 Washington
Katya Lyne 1981 Washington
Michelle Maitland 1966 Washington
Susan Marable 1956 Washington
Julie Weflen 1958 Washington

She has both dentals and DNA, so I presume Ramona Fey is a ruleout by default.
 
I had an idea to search for missing women and Pacific Lutheran University to see if there was anything in the news. I thought I was onto something when I came across a news story about a missing Tacoma, WA reporter who failed to show up for an assignment at PLU in 1985:

Roberts, 27, failed to appear for an assignment at Pacific Lutheran University on May 20, 1985. No one has seen or heard from her since.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19970705&slug=2547929

I was thinking that if she was covering a sporting event or something maybe that would be why she was wearing the PLU shirt.

But then I found a series of stories that the missing Washington reporter was found alive in 1997 living with amnesia in Alaska:

http://juneauempire.com/stories/071697/roberts.html
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/1997/jul/17/reporter-family-fill-in-12-lost-years-alaska/
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1997-07-20/news/9707190505_1_jane-dee-jody-roberts-wannabe

Amazingly, this woman claiming to be the missing reporter surfaced a mere months before the Jane Doe, subject of this thread, was found. I'm sure all this is just a coincidence in the timing of things, but I thought it was interesting and I wonder if Jody would have been on the short list for comparison to this Jane Doe if not for her supposed resurfacing in Alaska. I also wonder if the woman claiming to be Jody Roberts ever took a DNA test. :thinking:

I hope this Jane Doe is ID'd this year. 20 years is too long for her to go without a name. :candle:
 
Barbara Sterbinsky? She went missing in 1990.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2428dfwa.html

A little off the height measurement, but her eyes which I think are quite distinctive, look like this doe.

The Doe Network:
Case File 2428DFWA
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[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Barbara Ann Sterbinsky
Missing since November 15, 1990 from Auburn, King County, Washington
Classification: Missing
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Vital Statistics[/FONT]

  • [*]Date Of Birth: February 11, 1959
    [*]Age at Time of Disappearance: 31 years old
    [*]Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'1"; 100 lbs.
    [*]Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Black hair; brown eyes.
    [*]Dentals: Available
 
Barbara Sterbinsky? She went missing in 1990.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2428dfwa.html

A little off the height measurement, but her eyes which I think are quite distinctive, look like this doe.

The Doe Network:
Case File 2428DFWA
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BASterbinsky.jpg
[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Barbara Ann Sterbinsky
Missing since November 15, 1990 from Auburn, King County, Washington
Classification: Missing
[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Vital Statistics[/FONT]

  • [*]Date Of Birth: February 11, 1959
    [*]Age at Time of Disappearance: 31 years old
    [*]Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'1"; 100 lbs.
    [*]Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Black hair; brown eyes.
  • Dentals: Available

She has the look but her reported height is 5 inches shorter than the UID estimate.
 
Updated ruleouts from her Namus Unidentified Person Case


The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:

First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

Diane Leslie Reeves 1966 Washington
Katya Lyne 1981 Washington
Michelle Maitland 1966 Washington
Susan Marable 1956 Washington
Julie Weflen 1958 Washington

She has both dentals and DNA, so I presume Ramona Fey is a ruleout by default.

Updated link: Unidentified Person Case

Added to ruleouts:

Patricia Colyer
Jennifer DeLap
Ramona Fey
Lillian Holmes
Deborah Swanson
 

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