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Trial Disuccion 4/25/2012:

reposting a few of the warnings:

Salem's warning from last week:

Okay everybody - LISTEN UP! We are not bashing, accusing or blaming Tori's family here. It won't be allowed.

Children walk home from school every day without incident. Parents are not perfect, it's just not possible. Tori's parents DID NOT do this to her. TLM and an accomplice DID. That is where the blame goes.

We had a lot of family bashing in the early parts of this investigation after Tori went missing and a lot of baseless accusations - NONE OF WHICH PROVED TO BE TRUE. Victim and family bashing will not be allowed during this trial.

Thank you,
Salem

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Good Morning!

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Chapter 1: The day of the kidnapping. The surveillance video showing Rafferty driving up the street outside Tori's school and McClintic walking Tori up the street. Witnesses from and around Oliver Stephens public school will talk about seeing Tori.
An identification officer will use photographs and maps to show the route from Woodstock to Guelph.
Tori's mother, Tara McDonald, will testify about the frantic hours the family spent looking for Tori.

Chapter 2: Terri-Lynne McClintic. "She was an essential part of all that happened," Gowdey said. "I expect her credibility will be a major issue in this case."

Chapter 3: Guelph -- video surveillance and bank records detailing the events there.

Chapter 4: the Mount Forest death scene, which the jury will visit. "It will be difficult to go to the very place where this happened, I know that, but understanding the crime scene is crucial to understanding the crime," Gowdey said. Photographs, some of them graphic, will be used to explain "exactly how the killing happened."
"Unfortunately it is only through them that you can fully understand (the) evidence," Gowdey said.

Chapter 5: Police interaction with Rafferty.

Chapter 6: The searches of Rafferty and McClintic's residences and the evidence found.

Chapter 7: The Honda Civic. What was found inside.

Chapter 8: Rafferty's connection to the Mount Forest area.

Chapter 9: Comments Rafferty made to friends after April 8. "He had some interesting things to say to other people about Terri-Lynne McClintic and about the kidnapping itself," Gowdey said.

Chapter 10: The May 15 weekend and Rafferty's actions.

Chapter 11: The BlackBerry. The BlackBerry allowed police to track his movements April 8 and after.

Chapter 12: A recap of the surveillance video
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If Tori wasn't adbucted, why didn't MR suggest TLM take her into HD with her? Afterall, isn't the defense trying to say TLM asked MR to find a place where she could have a little chat with Tori because she was afraid of MR? If she wasn't abducted, why didn't MR take her into Timmies to pick a treat or use the washroom? Why didn't they all go in together into HD and Timmies, if MR didn't know Tori was abducted? MR could have taken TLM and Tori into BA's house, seeing he wasn't in a hurry, spending about ten minutes with BA? MR knew Tori was abducted, it was his plan and for his sexual purpose just as TLM claims. I for one believe TLM's testimony. She had nothing to lose only something to gain by telling the truth (early release-faint hope clause possibly). If she was lying during her testimony, she could have remained adamant it was MR who stomped and kicked Tori and beat her with the hammer. According to the pathologist's testimony, it was indeterminable who delivered the fatal blows to Tori. MOO
 
Why would Tori be afraid of MR? Isn't he a nice guy who "wears his heart on his sleeve"? JMO
 
Why would Tori be afraid of MR? Isn't he a nice guy who "wears his heart on his sleeve"? JMO
Also, he wasn't the one that pushed her into the car. I can't see why a child would be scared of someone that didn't know the child was being abducted but trust the woman that stole her off the street and pushed her into a car. It doesn't add up.
 
Also, he wasn't the one that pushed her into the car. I can't see why a child would be scared of someone that didn't know the child was being abducted but trust the woman that stole her off the street and pushed her into a car. It doesn't add up.

Good point. Some of TLM story may be the other way around.
 
Why would Tori be afraid of MR? Isn't he a nice guy who "wears his heart on his sleeve"? JMO

And wasn't he the nice guy who turned down the chance to rape her and wanted to get her to a "safe house", not home but to a "safe house"?

MOO
 
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9:23
Mike Knoll: We have also tried our best to organize all of the evidence we are given daily. Here's a list of what we've posted so far: http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/raffertytrial/2012/04/18/19651801.html
9:22
Mike Knoll: Here's an archive of our daily video wraps from the trial. Last Friday's included:
http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/raffertytrial/2012/04/19/19653076.html
9:21
Mike Knoll: Randy Richmond's morning update:

The jury trying Michael Rafferty for first-degree murder will return to court Wednesday as the Crown nears the final chapters in its case.

Legal arguments gave jurors in the long and often emotional trial a break Tuesday.

Jurors heard testimony last week about communications Rafferty had with women around April 8, 2009.

That's the day eight-year-old Woodstock girl Victoria 'Tori' Stafford disappeared while walking home from school.

Her body was found July 19, 2009, hidden in garbage bags and under rocks in a wooded area of a farmer's field near Mount Forest.

Rafferty's former girlfriend, Terri-Lynne McClintic, 21, pleaded guilty to first-degree murder in April 2010 and her testimony has formed the basis of the Crown's case against Rafferty.

Rafferty, 31, has pleaded not guilty to first-degree murder, kidnapping and sexual assault causing bodily harm.
Wednesday April 25, 2012


http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/raffertytrial/2012/04/25/19675741.html
 
Poor sweetheart must've been sitting (probably in a fetal position) when they were giving her these blows to the head. IMO

:tears:

Amazing that they could continue to torture that poor child when she was already suffering and in a fetal position. How MR managed to drive back to Woodstock and continue his life without being a wreck after witnissing such a horrifying scene is beyond me.
 
9:28
Mike Knoll: @Patrick - yes, we are nearing the end of the Crown's case. If they stay on their original plan, they could be done this week. The defence will begin immediately following.
9:27
Comment From Patrick
My guess is we are entering the final chapter, is this correct?
 
9:40
Mike Knoll: @Patrick - I assume they will following the Crown's case, once they have their strategy in line - but I'm not certain.
9:39
Comment From Patrick
is the defense obliged to submit a witness list at some point?
 
Good morning, everyone. Here's to hoping for a week of good, hard evidence against MR.
 
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