Trial Thread - 9 May 2012 Judge to give Jury Instructions

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Trial Discussion Thread:

reposting a few of the warnings:

Okay everybody - LISTEN UP! We are not bashing, accusing or blaming Tori's family here. It won't be allowed.

Children walk home from school every day without incident. Parents are not perfect, it's just not possible. Tori's parents DID NOT do this to her. TLM and an accomplice DID. That is where the blame goes.

We had a lot of family bashing in the early parts of this investigation after Tori went missing and a lot of baseless accusations - NONE OF WHICH PROVED TO BE TRUE. Victim and family bashing will not be allowed during this trial.

Thank you,
Salem

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Please keep discussion focused on what has been presented in testimony and remember to link up as the partial publication ban is still in place
 
I'm hoping things wrap up today and the jury will begin deliberations. Probably just wishful thinking on my part LOL

Salem
 
Good Morning!

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We're nearing the end of the trial, Victoria. Justice is coming. Sending our thoughts and prayers to your daddy and mommy and big brother. You will always be in our hearts. xoxo

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Crown set to wrap up Rafferty trial arguments

Crown attorney Kevin Gowdey told the jury Tuesday that Rafferty used Terri-Lynne McClintic as a “violent pawn” to help him carry out his “evil intentions.”

http://metronews.ca/news/canada/217165/crown-set-to-wrap-up-rafferty-trial-arguments/

Crown to finish closing arguments in Rafferty trial

He attempted to throw police off his trail by repeating rumours about Tori's mother, though he could have just as easily said a "raging homicidal maniac" is responsible and pointed police to Tori's body, Gowdey said.

One of Rafferty's most telling actions after April 8 was buying hair dye for McClintic once surveillance video was released showing her leading Tori away from school, Gowdey said.

"Why would a horrified witness who was an innocent dupe of Ms. McClintic take the steps to make the real killer change her appearance?" he said.

http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120509/120509_stafford_trial/20120509/?hub=CP24Home
 
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When I see pictures of Tori, I see my own daughter looking at me. Tori is one of us, one of OUR daughters who never deserved to have her life taken from her. Both must be punished for what they did to her. Our children are not the pawns of deviant members of society. It must stop. These are our kids. xoxoxoxo RIP Tori. Justice is coming. The sadness will always remain. :cry:
 
More closing arguments by the Crown are expected throughout day 37 of the first degree murder trial of Michael Rafferty.

Kevin Gowdey says he will require the majority of Wednesday to finish his summary of the final 5 chapters with the jury.

Gowdey ended his first day of closing submissions on Tuesday by talking about the contents of Michael Rafferty’s Blue 2003 Honda Civic, Rafferty’s Gym bag that was found within the car containing evidence of tiny fragments of blood that were found on the bottom of the bag mixed with Rafferty’s DNA. Those findings were determined through a Forensic Pathologist in earlier testimony.

Gowdey also spoke about other blood samples in the car and other DNA that was found that could not be ruled out that it belonged to 8 year old Tori Stafford.

Gowdey also touched on the importance of Terri-Lynne McClintic’s testimony of how she described under oath how Michael Rafferty brutally and repeatedly raped Tori Stafford before he allegedly threw the girl to the ground and struck her 4 times in the head with both ends of a hammer while she was smothered with garbage bags.

Gowdey explained to the jury "McClintic’s testimony defies the idea that the sexual assault could not have happened”.

Closing arguments will resume this morning at 10:00AM.

http://www.1047.ca/local-news/michael-rafferty-trial
 
How will we know when a verdict is reached? I guess continue to follow the tweets? Does anybody know which reporter will alert to a verdict? I'll sign up with them. Thanks.
 
n/t: I think London Free Press and AM980 will always be in court so I would go with them on getting the alerts.
 
What time does court start? It's 6:48 a.m. here. Should I go back to bed for another hour? Do I remember someone saying that it starts at 10 Ontario time?
 
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RANDY RICHMOND, The London Free Press

he said so yesterday in one of his tweets
 
What time does court start? It's 6:48 a.m. here. Should I go back to bed for another hour? Do I remember someone saying that it starts at 10 Ontario time?

Yes, 10 a.m. Ontario time... sleep well :)
 
What time does court start? It's 6:48 a.m. here. Should I go back to bed for another hour? Do I remember someone saying that it starts at 10 Ontario time?

You should be able to get another hour sleep in. Should start in just over an hr.
 
Good morning all. Hopefully if there is any doubt in any of the jurors minds it will be erased today.
 
After discussing yesterday with my husband the outcome of the closing arguments he said that there is in his opinion not enough evidence to find him guilty in all three points without a doubt. He really believes too that MTR is guilty in everything but worries that the jury can built a verdict on what they have. Is anybody thinking the same?
 
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