Identified! OR - Klamath Co., WhtMale 1306UMOR, 25-40, in woods, denim jacket, Apr'03 - Name withheld

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http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1306umor.html
https://identifyus.org/cases/8265
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Unidentified white male
Est. Date of Death: 2 years prior
Skeletal remains
Est age: 25-40
Approx height: 71"
Robust nature of remains indicates a muscular adult male
No clothing
Dentals: 28O=crown missing, 30C= silver/steel crown
Victim was found in a wooded area.

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I grew up in Klamath County so this one caught my eye. I've never seen the description of "robust" based on skeletal remains. I knew there was such a thing as big-boned!

Here are my Oregon possibles. The southern end of the county is on the California border, so that direction is another possibility.


http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/frick_steven.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/greth_kenneth.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/larsen_gary.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/n/nordstrom_ron.html
 
Fairy1 said:
... I've never seen the description of "robust" based on skeletal remains. I knew there was such a thing as big-boned!
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When they say "Robust", they are probably looking at the places on the bones where the tendons attach. On a muscular person, those attachment sites are more prominent.
 
Galvis looks eerily similar even up to the hairline and eyebrows but I think much of that is based on the artist's imagination since it was skeletal remains and the color of hair is unknown according to Namus.

John Doe has quite a long face in the reconstruction.
 
So, I wonder if he was a hiker or just a backwoodsman? Unfortunately with all the outdoor activities around So. OR there are a lot of people coming through- some of which tend to be the loner types who might never get reported missing.
 
This is a more general question that I hope someone can answer.

It would be helpful in cases like this if they could test the DNA and discover what the hair color and eye color is likely to be. I know there are different genes that aid the the expression of hair color etc. so it wouldn't be spot on, put pretty close.

Also, I believe on some other thread, CarkK said that by looking at different bones they can make an assumption about the deceased's race. Did they not do that in this case? Or is that considered unreliable?
 
deca said:
This is a more general question that I hope someone can answer.

It would be helpful in cases like this if they could test the DNA and discover what the hair color and eye color is likely to be. I know there are different genes that aid the the expression of hair color etc. so it wouldn't be spot on, put pretty close.

Also, I believe on some other thread, CarkK said that by looking at different bones they can make an assumption about the deceased's race. Did they not do that in this case? Or is that considered unreliable?
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Somewhere, I've heard that they can tell the probable hair color from DNA, but I'm not sure of that.

As for determining race, especially with the skull they can reliably assess the person's race by evaluating various characteristics. Some of the characteristics involve the arch formed by the upper teeth, the shape of the nasal opening, and the shape of the eye sockets, the forward projection of the maxilla, and the shape of the incisors.

Also, the femur bones of Caucasians are more curved than those of blacks.
 
Thanks, CarlK about the bone info.

I see that I made a mistake and they did determine that the deceased was white.

As far as the DNA to determine haircolor: It has been some years since my genetics classes (I am an out of work microbiologist) and I would guess that they don't want to spend the time and money to determine the haircolor especially since it would still be a guess. A good guess, though. I know there are a number of genes that come into play and you could have genes for multiple hair colors but only one gets expressed.

From my faulty memory so MOO
 
deca said:
I would hope that the Klamath Sheriff's have already looked through their missing and compared these two. Jason Franks seems awfully slender to be considered "robust", but even slender people can be strong, so I don't know.
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I would hope so, too. But you never know! Jason is not on the ruled-out list for the UID. Seeing as it's been 9 years since the remains were found, you'd think they'd have had time to check it out.

The Alturas, CA PD appears to be investigating the disappearance while the Klamath County Sheriff's Dept. is investigating the UID. Neither agency has e-mail info available - and neither does the IdentifyUs caseworker. :(

I long ago gave up putting too much faith into the descriptions of remains - particularly skeletal. And I'm not a huge fan of facial reconstructions based on skeletal remains, either.
 
Rule outs, last updated last month (June 2016):
Jason Franks 1980 Oregon
STEVEN FRICK 1965 Oregon
Donnell Love 1964 Oregon
Jerry Smith 1951 Oregon
Joel Thompson 1969 Michigan
Joel Thompson 1969 Colorado

I wonder if the first Joel Thompson was a mistake? I kept him in because it was a different state.

Either way, hoping this Doe will be identified soon enough.
 
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