AR AR - Van Buren, WhtMale UP10680, 30-60, on Arkansas River island, red Carhart bib overalls, Oct'12

longtallcold

What happened to Nancy Jenkins?
Joined
Oct 5, 2011
Messages
1,758
Reaction score
50
Website
www.websleuths.com
NamUs profile (already):

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10680

Estimated age Adult
Minimum age 30 years
Maximum age 60 years
Race White
Ethnicity
Sex Male
Weight (pounds) , Cannot Estimate
Height (inches) 68, Estimated

1 rule out - Gregory Bolin

******can a mod add the new info to title thread pls and TY
 
http://www.vanburenpd.org/Missing Person.htm
lists no missing persons at this time but there is an old MP from Van Buren
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10709/8/
Gregory Nicely
Age is good, height within two inches.


Two MP's from nearby Fort Smith:
http://www.fortsmithpd.org/\MissingPersons\MyersH.asp
Howard Myers
Age is a match, height is two inches off.

Gerald Bingham is probably too old but height is exact. Poteau and Cavanal Mountain are about 50 min away.
http://www.fortsmithpd.org/\MissingPersons\BinghamG.asp
 
Some new info:
Remnants of a red carhart bib overalls
1 green lighter

Some teeth missing post or ante mortem.
Dental work includes:
#2 MOL amalgam, #3 OL amalgam-B missing, #5 DL half broken off, #11 I composite, #15 BO amalgam, #16 O amalgam, #18 & #19 O amalgam, #30 & #31 O amalgam, and #32 O amalgam-DL missing.

Serrano Salvador: Another Fort Smith MP who is listed as white Hispanic/Latino and is three years younger than the age range. His height is exactly 68 inches. He was last seen with his wife who was later found floating down the Arkansas River. I can think of a couple of scenarios in which one spouse would end up dead in the river and another on an island in the same river.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9731/19/

Junior McCormick missing from Fort Smith is a little young as well
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9742/30/


Missing from Pocola, Oklahoma, about 22 miles away, Kenneth Weaver:
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1040/30/
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/weaver_kenneth.html
Age and height both match.

Flint Flory, missing about 40 miles away in Bokoshe, OK. Age slightly off, height within an inch. He wears bib overalls in his photo although they're not orange.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/13833/42/
 
I like Serrano Salvador as a possibility. They could have been boating, fishing, fighting on a bridge or beside the water -- as you say, several scenarios.

I'm not sure how they'd identify him if it is, though. He doesn't seem to have DNA, fingerprints, or dentals.
 
There are now 23 rule-outs on the list. Gregory Nicely has been ruled out.

Larry Lacy, age 34, 5'9" tall, went missing from Van Buren in July 2012; is that enough time to be that decomposed? Surely he would have been an obvious one to check, but he's not on the rule-out list. Ah, I see, no DNA for him yet, and no dentals available.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/17493/10/
 
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10680

They have narrowed the age range to 30-45. He has dentals and DNA, and a spiffy reconstruction that is credited to the FBI.

26627.jpeg


No new names on the ruleouts list:

Exclusions
The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
Stephan Adams 1978 Oklahoma
Kim Allgood 1952 Kentucky
Eric Bedell 1962 Texas
Joshua Bohlen 1973 Minnesota
Gregory Bolin 1978 Arkansas
Ronnie Bolin 1962 Missouri
Luther Boyt 1940 Missouri
Gary Brumley 1948 Missouri
Robert Clifft 1944 Arkansas
Robert Cox 1953 Arkansas
Brian Debord 1980 Tennessee
Kevin Garfield 1959 Missouri
Mitchell Hamilton 1958 Missouri
Salvatore Manzo 1927 Missouri
Robert McCullar 1955 Texas
Gregory Nicely 1952 Arkansas
David Riemens 1952 Tennessee
Richard Rinehart 1934 Texas
Steven Schulz 1954 Texas
Thomas Scott 1956 Texas
Jon Shadden 1971 Texas
Claude Shelton 1934 Kentucky
Alan Soper 1952 Oklahoma
 
There are now 23 rule-outs on the list. Gregory Nicely has been ruled out.

Larry Lacy, age 34, 5'9" tall, went missing from Van Buren in July 2012; is that enough time to be that decomposed? Surely he would have been an obvious one to check, but he's not on the rule-out list. Ah, I see, no DNA for him yet, and no dentals available.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/17493/10/

Lacy now has DNA initial inquiry under way, so hopefully they'll have it soon.

He has a pretty fair resemblance to the reconstruction. The cheekbones seem wrong, but the hooded eyes and the chin are a good match.
 

Attachments

  • larry lacy and AR uid.png
    larry lacy and AR uid.png
    164.7 KB · Views: 14
Lacy now has DNA initial inquiry under way, so hopefully they'll have it soon.

He has a pretty fair resemblance to the reconstruction. The cheekbones seem wrong, but the hooded eyes and the chin are a good match.

Larry Lacy is still not on the rule out list. I wonder what is taking so long?
 
Updated Namus link: Unidentified Person Case

Current ruleouts:

MP849 Stephan Adams 12/13/2004 Cherokee OK
MP14581 Kim Allgood 10/07/1991 Warren KY
MP9347 Eric Bedell 09/29/2010 Harris TX
MP18074 Joshua Bohlen 09/19/2012 Rice MN
MP4461 Ronnie Bolin 07/08/1996 Jefferson MO
MP10670 Gregory Bolin 03/04/2009 Sebastian AR
MP227 Luther Boyt 11/26/2000 Jackson MO
MP8452 Gary Brumley 12/16/1984 Miller MO
MP12088 Robert Clifft 12/15/2009 Carroll AR
MP10218 Robert Cox 02/19/2011 Yell AR
MP13895 Brian Debord 09/26/2011 Knox TN
MP13081 Kevin Garfield 02/20/2009 Jefferson MO
MP241 Mitchell Hamilton 01/02/1996 Jackson MO
MP347 Salvatore Manzo 09/04/1987 Jackson MO
MP7568 Robert McCullar 02/20/1995 Denton TX
MP10709 Gregory Nicely 01/04/1987 Crawford AR
MP2676 Timothy Potter 01/19/2007 Phelps MO
MP17805 David Riemens 08/08/2012 Wilson TN
MP9230 Richard Rinehart 06/17/1985 Travis TX
MP11612 Steven Schulz 03/28/2011 Harris TX
MP2035 Thomas Scott 08/23/1984 Tarrant TX
MP5694 Jon Shadden 06/09/2007 Coke TX
MP2058 Claude Shelton 05/28/1971 Whitley KY
MP7770 Alan Soper 06/07/1974 Tulsa OK
 
Unidentified Person Case

Current ruleouts:

MP849 Stephan Adams 12/13/2004 Cherokee OK
MP14581 Kim Allgood 10/07/1991 Warren KY
MP9347 Eric Bedell 09/29/2010 Harris TX
MP18074 Joshua Bohlen 09/19/2012 Rice MN
MP4461 Ronnie Bolin 07/08/1996 Jefferson MO
MP10670 Gregory Bolin 03/04/2009 Sebastian AR
MP227 Luther Boyt 11/26/2000 Jackson MO
MP8452 Gary Brumley 12/16/1984 Miller MO
MP12088 Robert Clifft 12/15/2009 Carroll AR
MP10218 Robert Cox 02/19/2011 Yell AR
MP13895 Brian Debord 09/26/2011 Knox TN
MP13081 Kevin Garfield 02/20/2009 Jefferson MO
MP241 Mitchell Hamilton 01/02/1996 Jackson MO
MP347 Salvatore Manzo 09/04/1987 Jackson MO
MP7568 Robert McCullar 02/20/1995 Denton TX
MP10709 Gregory Nicely 01/04/1987 Crawford AR
MP2676 Timothy Potter 01/19/2007 Phelps MO
MP17805 David Riemens 08/08/2012 Wilson TN
MP9230 Richard Rinehart 06/17/1985 Travis TX
MP11612 Steven Schulz 03/28/2011 Harris TX
MP2035 Thomas Scott 08/23/1984 Tarrant TX
MP5694 Jon Shadden 06/09/2007 Coke TX
MP2058 Claude Shelton 05/28/1971 Whitley KY
MP7770 Alan Soper 06/07/1974 Tulsa OK
 
To paste news article text while this link is still available (the link above is broken)
Author: Mallory Cooke
Published: 11:11 AM CDT October 9, 2012
Updated: 10:08 AM CDT October 10, 2012

Hunter Finds Human Remains on Island on Arkansas River From this link:

“Crawford County Sheriff Ron Brown said a hunter reported finding human remains on a little island on the Arkansas River in Crawford County.
"A person hunting, scouting his hunting area had found a human skull," said Chief Deputy Jim Damante, with the Crawford County Sheriff's Office.
The hunter reported the skeletal remains to the Fort Smith Police Department around 5:30 p.m. Monday, however Fort Smith determined the bones were in Crawford County. Crawford County deputies went out to the scene immediately, and Sheriff Brown said they worked on processing the area until it was dark.
Sheriff Brown said the bones were so decomposed it was even indeterminable if they belonged to a woman or a man."It appears to be an adult type bones," said Damante.
The remains have been sent to the state crime lab. "There is some teeth in the skull and dental records are possible," said Damante.
Crawford County Deputies began working the scene again early Tuesday morning and processing the evidence. "We're searching the scene for any other type of remains or evidence or anything that might have been on there," said Damante.
Deputies believe the remains have been on the island for a while, possibly two or three years. "There was no obvious signs of any trauma," said Damante.
Sequoyah County Ron Lockhart says clues on scene allowed investigators to rule out if the remains belong to Glen Ray Cook, Jr. of Fort Smith. Cook was reported missing in June. His car was found near Muldrow, Okla. on the banks of the Arkansas River.”
 
Last edited:

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
69
Guests online
2,350
Total visitors
2,419

Forum statistics

Threads
590,011
Messages
17,928,949
Members
228,038
Latest member
shmoozie
Back
Top