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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #40

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    ARREST!!! Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 -#26

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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #40

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    Aha - FIRST (edited in by request

    Just a repeat post, as I posted this just as the previous thread was being closed, so it may have been missed:

    Dr Watson a question for you would drugs disperse through a person if administered after death - wouldn't be ingested but as they broke down would they be present in the tissues and organs they were close to?
    Short answer - no. If administered after death, (or even very shortly before death) especially in tablet form, those tablets would just be sitting in the stomach. They would become very mushy and may even dissolve completely, depending on what was already in the stomach or if the stomach was empty. But virtually none would be absorbed, and certainly not circulated.

    The levels obtained by the pathologist were from blood taken from the liver.

    There is a principle in physiology called "first pass" - blood from the bowel passes through the liver FIRST (via the portal vein) before getting into the general circulation, and it would not be unexpected that levels of a drug would be higher in the liver than anywhere else.

    And as I posted several pages back, before the bit came out in yesterday's court hearing about the difficulty in doing the toxicity screen tests and the fact that they had to use blood from the liver, the levels in the general circulation would be almost impossible to measure after 11 days.

    I don't believe for one minute that she took an overdose of Zoloft, or that it would have killed her. She may have been forced to swallow some (chipped tooth, bruising on chest wall, etc) to make her drowsy, but none of this would suggest suicide to me.

    If there were no residual tablets of Zoloft in Allison's stomach, then they would have been taken or administered at least 15-20 minutes before death.
    Last edited by DrWatson; 12-14-2012 at 07:40 PM.

    "Elementary, my dear Watson"

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    Haven't been on here for ages, so hello to everyone. I was appalled by the article in todays "Courier Mail" reporting that the policemen who went to the Baden-Clay house at 8.45am on the morning of disappearance reported that had told the children "Mummy went for a walk, she probably fallen in a hole and won't be back," and with that news the happy cherubs skipped off to school.

    You think your wife has died, you tell your children as much and then expect them to attend school? Incredible nerve!!

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    Court documents show police focus on "blunt razor" cuts on Gerard Baden-Clay's face


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    Unreal. "fallen down a hole and won't be back'. I can just see the kids taking that well.

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    I use the same type of razor - a Gillette Mach III - and the only way you could cut yourself with one of those would be to slide it sideways or lop the top off a spot! They're incredibly safe - even safer when blunt...

    Those are scratch marks, pure and simple.

    And good for Constable Ash for being suspicious - excellent work.

    "Fell down a hole and won't be back"?? Kidding, right? And OW knew this? Uh oh...

    "Elementary, my dear Watson"

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    Constable Ash said he first saw a woman he now knows to be Baden-Clay's sister Olivia Walton walk three children down the stairs and put them in a car.

    I said all along OW the girls were home and OW took them to school. I remember when I said it world war 3 nearly broke out in here.

    A lot of the theories, rumours and inside info seem to be true. GBC couldnt lie straight in bed!!

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    "I'm now driving the streets. My, my father's come over and, to look after the children," he said.

    6.15am he is awake
    7.15am phone police
    8.00am police arrive

    yet he states he was now driving the streets? yeah right. Inbetween making lunches getting the girls up....


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