Australia - Phoebe Handsjuk, 24, found dead in Melbourne apt building, 2 Dec 2010

marlywings · Mar 8, 2013

December 6, 2012

The family of a Melbourne woman who died after plunging 12 storeys inside the garbage chute of a St Kilda Road apartment building has asked a coroner to examine if she was murdered.

At Wednesday's hearing, Coroner Peter White said he was yet to decide whether to hold a full inquest into the 2010 death of 24-year-old Phoebe Handsjuk

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/what-happened-to-phoebe-handsjuk-20121206-2awz5.html#ixzz2MwnIgEBz

marlywings · Mar 8, 2013

Letter recalls scream on day of garbage-chute fall

January 18, 2013

Victorian Coroner Peter White is considering whether to hold an inquest into the December 2010 death of 24-year-old Phoebe Handsjuk, who was found in the garbage compacting room at the Balencea apartment building after plunging 12 storeys inside the chute.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/l...echute-fall-20130117-2cwbs.html#ixzz2MwpiGHth

marlywings · Mar 8, 2013

Channel 7 program "Sunday Night" is featuring this case on the weekend.

Phoebe's mystery death

They were the perfect glamour couple: she was young and beautiful while he was the handsome businessman boyfriend. So how did Phoebe Handsjuk come to die by plunging 12 storeys down the garbage chute of a luxury apartment building? Sunday Night explores the mystery of Phoebe’s final hours

http://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/

Paulie11 · Mar 8, 2013

Derryn Hinch has a tweet about channel 7's Sunday Night program on this case:

Derryn Hinch ‏@HumanHeadline
Legal fight on between Vic. Coroner and Sunday Night over 7 plan to air CCTV footage of murder/suicide ? victim Pheobe Handsjuk

Humdinger · Mar 8, 2013

How tragic, I don't recall hearing about this when it happened.

SouthAussie · Mar 8, 2013

Boyfriend certainly has friends in high places. Why does his lawyer care if there is a full coronial hearing into the matter? If it answers some nagging questions, what is the harm to him?

"However, barrister Elizabeth Brimer, who is acting for Antony Hampel, Phoebe's boyfriend at the time of her death, said a full hearing wasn't necessary.

"There isn't a basis for that level of satisfaction [that a murder occurred]," Ms Brimer told the coroner."

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/what-happened-to-phoebe-handsjuk-20121206-2awz5.html#ixzz2MwnIgEBz

aust amateur slueth · Mar 8, 2013

Thanks Marlywings I've seen a couple of things tv and newspaper recently about Phoebe's death and I'll be watching Sunday Night.

It seems unlikely IMO to be suicide, I read something about the rubbish chute having blades, so someone has to have turned them off or she would have been chopped to pieces. Also her grandfather, a retired detective has investigated and had two sober fit women try to hoist themselves feet first into the rubbish chute and it was extremely difficult for them.

aust amateur slueth · Mar 8, 2013

SouthAussie said:
Boyfriend certainly has friend's in high places. Why does his lawyer care if there is a full coronial hearing into the matter? If it answers some nagging questions, what is the harm to him?

"However, barrister Elizabeth Brimer, who is acting for Antony Hampel, Phoebe's boyfriend at the time of her death, said a full hearing wasn't necessary.

"There isn't a basis for that level of satisfaction [that a murder occurred]," Ms Brimer told the coroner."

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/what-happened-to-phoebe-handsjuk-20121206-2awz5.html#ixzz2MwnIgEBz

He sure does.

IMO if he has nothing to hide then his barrister wouldn't be trying to talk down the need for a full hearing.

Scoobysnack · Mar 8, 2013

Many many thanks Marlywings for starting this thread xx
I had not heard of this case till seeing the ads for Sunday night.

Melbournite · Mar 10, 2013

Humdinger said:
How tragic, I don't recall hearing about this when it happened.

Me either.

Interestingly, we have a victim and boyfriend with family including judges, lawyers and detectives.......

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Melbournite · Mar 10, 2013

Link which discuses the chute blades

Blood on her computer mouse and a foot cut on glass, unexplained bruising, deleted emails and a missing phone in for repair that can send an SMS

And they still have to decide whether an inquest is necessary......it's a no brainer

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/what-happened-to-phoebe-20121208-2b28m.html

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Spooky7 · Mar 10, 2013

Just watched the special on Sunday Night. Definitely some suspcious behaviour by the boyfriend in my opinion. Why is his legal team preventing footage of her final hours being released? Why is is opposed to a coronial inquest?

Paulie11 · Mar 10, 2013

I think the most damning point in this case is why she would choose- in a drunken state- to attempt the delicate Houdini act of wedging herself into the garbage disposal chute when she could have freely hopped off the balcony. I mean, why bother to go to all the effort when the balcony is just so much easier? It just doesn’t make sense to go to all of that effort; it’s ridiculous. Further, she was apparently still alive at the bottom of the chute, possibly owing to the halting/pausing/breaking on the way down, as the chute is narrow, which slowed down her fall. That certainly wouldn’t have been the case were she to have jumped from the balcony- no one survives a 12 storey fall from a building; it is certain death.
The only reasonable explanation is that she was hurt beforehand by someone who wanted to conceal those injuries, which might not have been concealed by a balcony fall, but which could be masked during a chute-fall owing to the bumping, jamming, hitting, bruising on the way down in the confined space.

katydid23 · Mar 10, 2013

There is no way she killed herself by going down a garbage chute. She was a young, beautiful woman. That is not how she would have chosen to die, imo.

Scoobysnack · Mar 10, 2013

Spooky7 said:
Just watched the special on Sunday Night. Definitely some suspcious behaviour by the boyfriend in my opinion. Why is his legal team preventing footage of her final hours being released? Why is is opposed to a coronial inquest?

His parents=legal team?

Also did he turn to the reporter and say "private property" and point to the ground when she was questioning him?
Not that it really has much meaning ..... I just thought geese firm and mist certainly knew his rights, quite slick in fact.

Scoobysnack · Mar 10, 2013

Paulie11 said:
I think the most damning point in this case is why she would choose- in a drunken state- to attempt the delicate Houdini act of wedging herself into the garbage disposal chute when she could have freely hopped off the balcony. I mean, why bother to go to all the effort when the balcony is just so much easier? It just doesnt make sense to go to all of that effort; its ridiculous. Further, she was apparently still alive at the bottom of the chute, possibly owing to the halting/pausing/breaking on the way down, as the chute is narrow, which slowed down her fall. That certainly wouldnt have been the case were she to have jumped from the balcony- no one survives a 12 storey fall from a building; it is certain death.
The only reasonable explanation is that she was hurt beforehand by someone who wanted to conceal those injuries, which might not have been concealed from a balcony fall, but which could be masked during a chute-fall owing to the bumping, jamming, hitting, bruising on the way down in the confined space.

I totally agree... There is certainly reasonable doubt blanketing this entire tragic story.
I can help but "feel" the fact that Phoebe ended up in the garbage chute, was in fact someone wanting to throw her away :-( Awful

Paulie11 · Mar 10, 2013

Here is a link to Channel 7's Sunday Night's website:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/features/article/-/16319299/phoebes-mystery-death/

Phoebe's family have set up a WEBSITE with information about their ongoing investigations into her death:

http://www.phoebehandsjuk.com/

Paulie11 · Mar 10, 2013

looks like you can rent a 14th floor apartment in that building, overlooking Albert Park no less- just in time for the grand prix next weekend! i wonder if Phoebe's boyfriend at the time still lives in the building on the 12th, could even catch him watching the race from the lower vantage-point. who knows, he might even be up for a chat...

http://australia.trovit.com/propert....1/org.1/pop.1/publisher_id./referer_id.1/t.1

Paulie11 · Mar 10, 2013

This is an interesting comment from ECl, one of Phoebe's friends:
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http://www.phoebehandsjuk.com/stories/

Spooky7 · Mar 10, 2013

I think the fact that the police came to the suicide conclusion so quickly is also cause for concern. The Bf is obviously very well connected and I have wondered if these 2 things are related i.e. his connections and the suicide conclusion.

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