Voice of Reason
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i'd like to open a thread to discuss the flashlight. i've seen a lot of discussion about whether the ramseys owned one, whether the one found on the table was the same one, was it the murder weapon, etc...
i think it's time we attempted to clear all this up. to start this off, i'd like to list off the "facts" pertaining to this issue. if i've incorrectly stated something, please chime in. i'll try to edit this first post accordingly, so as to avoid starting this thread off with a bad seed...
facts about the flashlight...
1-a large flashlight was found in the ramsey's kitchen on the morning of 12/26/96.
2-this flashlight was tested for prints, but none were found on the outside, or on the batteries on the inside.
3-the ramseys owned a similar flashlight which they kept in a kitchen drawer.
4-JAR gave this to JR as a gift, and he said it was rarely, if ever used, and the one found in the kitchen appeared dirtier and older than his.
5-LE response to #4 was that after testing was done on the flashlight, it altered the appearance, so it may have been JR's flashlight, but JR does not think this is the case.
now for the questions that arise with regards to this issue. did the ramseys ever produce JR's flashlight to show that this flashlight was indeed, not theirs? this seems like the easiest way to immediately do away with this issue, but i have not read anything concrete with regards to this. if this mysterious flashlight was theirs, why would they wipe off the prints? with all the people roaming through the house that morning, including many cops, did anyone leave a flashlight behind? cops often wear gloves, so might this explain the lack of prints? what, aside from the lack of prints, did forensics show about this flashlight? was it dented from being used as a murder weapon? was it strong enough that if it was the murder weapon, it would not be dented?
ok everyone...have at it! i'd like to mostly hear any sources that offer solid answers to these questions, but as always, speculation is welcome!
i think it's time we attempted to clear all this up. to start this off, i'd like to list off the "facts" pertaining to this issue. if i've incorrectly stated something, please chime in. i'll try to edit this first post accordingly, so as to avoid starting this thread off with a bad seed...
facts about the flashlight...
1-a large flashlight was found in the ramsey's kitchen on the morning of 12/26/96.
2-this flashlight was tested for prints, but none were found on the outside, or on the batteries on the inside.
3-the ramseys owned a similar flashlight which they kept in a kitchen drawer.
4-JAR gave this to JR as a gift, and he said it was rarely, if ever used, and the one found in the kitchen appeared dirtier and older than his.
5-LE response to #4 was that after testing was done on the flashlight, it altered the appearance, so it may have been JR's flashlight, but JR does not think this is the case.
now for the questions that arise with regards to this issue. did the ramseys ever produce JR's flashlight to show that this flashlight was indeed, not theirs? this seems like the easiest way to immediately do away with this issue, but i have not read anything concrete with regards to this. if this mysterious flashlight was theirs, why would they wipe off the prints? with all the people roaming through the house that morning, including many cops, did anyone leave a flashlight behind? cops often wear gloves, so might this explain the lack of prints? what, aside from the lack of prints, did forensics show about this flashlight? was it dented from being used as a murder weapon? was it strong enough that if it was the murder weapon, it would not be dented?
ok everyone...have at it! i'd like to mostly hear any sources that offer solid answers to these questions, but as always, speculation is welcome!