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    Quote Originally Posted by nannymo View Post
    Thank you cutter. Welcome to the thread. What do the locals think happened to David? I sure don't think he left of his own free will, but am open to ideas. Hope you can stay and spread some insight into David's disappearance.
    Hi nannymo, cutter has been around for a while on this thread. Moved to the area a few years ago.

    Cutter, good to hear that you have made the place your home. I hope you never see something you are not supposed to.
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    Did they find materials regarding the job he was supposed to do for the unknown man? He took papers with him, but other things? Like drawings of what he was supposed to make. BTW, really handsome man.

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    Locals think he saw something he shouldn't have. I have talked to people who saw him the night before he disappeared, and he did not seem any different than usual.

    There have been other rumors, like he had a gambling problem, but nothing has never been substantiated. He had a fascination with hobos and trains, and the Dollar General store where his truck was found sits across the road from railroad tracks, but there is no evidence he hopped a train. There were rumors someone had killed him and built a koi pond over the body, but that was also unsubstantiated. All these theories have been published in MSM, so not putting anything here that has not been made public.

    This area in itself is VERY different from other parts of the country. I moved here from the Northeast, where in even a "rural" situation is not really rural. Rural here is acres and acres of undeveloped land, some of which is not maintained in any way and very dense. There is kudzu vine that grows so aggressively it can cover a house in one season. There are bobcats, coyotes and buzzards that will scavange and pick a carcass clean in a matter of hours.

    They have not identified the job site David was visiting, at least if they did they have not made it public. I think every effort to do so was exhausted, including flyovers and people driving the roads specifically looking. The issue here is there is a ton of secluded area between the hills and the hollers. There are areas people have not accessed in years, so the amount of overgrowth is incredible, especially during summer months.

    Taking the locale into consideration, meth and pill abuse here runs rampant. Mobile meth labs are quite common, and last year a meth lab was busted in a hotel right off the interstate, within 10 miles of where David went missing. You only need to go to the local Walmart to recognize meth users- super skinny, gaunt with horrible teeth. Pill addiction is so common here abusers are called "pillbillies".

    In the Northeast, I had a job that required me to be on farms. I was trained by my employer on how to handle certain situations, like how to recognize illegal activity like drugs and what to do if I came upon certain situations, like finding a meth lab (get the hell out of the area as quickly as possible and alert the police). I did this job for 16 years and never felt I was in danger or a situation that I could not get out. I would not do that job in this area, especially because I feel there are too many possibilities of stumbling onto something unsavory around here.

    Since David was self-employed and lived semi off-the-grid, he might not have had the information to know he was at risk, or even in danger. He very easily could have stumbled on someone or something he should not have.

    I also do know the community has not forgotten him. There are still flyers up stating the circumstances of his disappearance and a couple different businesses still have his paintings displayed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaZara View Post
    Hi nannymo, cutter has been around for a while on this thread. Moved to the area a few years ago.

    Cutter, good to hear that you have made the place your home. I hope you never see something you are not supposed to.
    Thanks ZaZara! I do have to say this is a wonderful place to live and most of the people here are truly wonderful. It is a move we have not regretted, except for the fact we wish we had gotten here sooner.

    We know our neighbors and are more than aware when something questionable is going on. As a community, we work to keep an eye on each other and what goes on around us. Other areas are certainly not aware as the one I live in.

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    I think you're right. He had no money, so must have been either a conflict or stumbling upon secrets.


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    Coming up on the five year anniversary of David's disappearance. Wouldn't it be nice to have a resolution for David and his friends and family?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutter99 View Post
    Coming up on the five year anniversary of David's disappearance. Wouldn't it be nice to have a resolution for David and his friends and family?
    You could put an ad in the local newspaper, the store and the Watertown website:

    Wanted: Stonemason and Old Bricks. Tips welcome

    Where are you, David Riemens? Someone must know something!
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    Believe it or not, five years later there are still a decent amount of flyers out there. There are a couple local restaurants, to whom David had gifted a couple of his paintings, who ALWAYS have a flyer up. There is a small local paper that has continually run an ad as well.

    One of the things that always amazes me is the number of "local" people who have never heard of David's disappearance. I am not 100% sure why. I have neighbors who read the local and Nashville newspapers, yet have no idea this happened.

    Another thing that comes back to me repeatedly, is David could literally be right in someone's backyard. I live on a one lane, tar and chip road, that is 2 1/2 miles long and has 15 houses on it. In that stretch of 2 1/2 miles, there are 5 graveyards. Some date back to the early 1800s, and one had someone buried in it as recent as the mid 1990s. I met someone locally who is a "grave walker"- he researches the genealogy and history behind each graveyard. He told me in my small county alone, there are over 1000 of these small graveyards. How convenient would one of these graveyards be if you wanted to make someone disappear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutter99 View Post
    Believe it or not, five years later there are still a decent amount of flyers out there. There are a couple local restaurants, to whom David had gifted a couple of his paintings, who ALWAYS have a flyer up. There is a small local paper that has continually run an ad as well.

    One of the things that always amazes me is the number of "local" people who have never heard of David's disappearance. I am not 100% sure why. I have neighbors who read the local and Nashville newspapers, yet have no idea this happened.

    Another thing that comes back to me repeatedly, is David could literally be right in someone's backyard. I live on a one lane, tar and chip road, that is 2 1/2 miles long and has 15 houses on it. In that stretch of 2 1/2 miles, there are 5 graveyards. Some date back to the early 1800s, and one had someone buried in it as recent as the mid 1990s. I met someone locally who is a "grave walker"- he researches the genealogy and history behind each graveyard. He told me in my small county alone, there are over 1000 of these small graveyards. How convenient would one of these graveyards be if you wanted to make someone disappear?
    David has been added to Wikipedia because hey, you never know when someone will read something, add 2 and 2, and suddenly we have a "lead." Gone but not forgotten, as my sig reads....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Riemens
    Tabitha Tuders ☮ Holly Bobo ☮ David Riemens
    Gone but not forgotten.

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    Bump.

    First time posting, good to see this page is still active. I might be a little vain because David looks like my dad, who's been a mechanic and done construction all his life. Another reason this caught my attention is because my boyfriend and his dad own a metal shop company- but they're the only two who work for the company. They build statues, fireplaces, tables, etc. for a living and are always driving to client's houses to install and drop off products. IMO, I think something happened to him due to who he was working with. They sound sketchy, he expressed a bit of distrust- it all sounds weird. Also, my main question is why weren't his truck and its contents fingerprinted? If those bricks did actually come from somebody's house, I'm sure you could track them down via fingerprint and interview them. This is so sad, I hope one day his family gets peace

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    Bumping for David.

    Where are you, man?

    I've been around and around different theories in my head and keep coming back to the idea that the job might have been fake. Since they're had so much trouble identifying it and the person he met with, I think someone must have made it up. Either David was dishonest about it (not implying there was a character fault, he might have had a good reason to have made it up) or it was misrepresented to HIM and used as a lure to get him back out there. But I don't think it was real.

    Seemed like such a nice guy, and good looking! I don't think he left on his own.
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    Yesterday was David’s birthday according to the Facebook page set up for finding him “David Riemens is Missing”. They posted some very nice pictures of David that really seem to show his personality and they put out an absolutely heartbreaking plea asking for leads and follow up, even if it just leads to his bones. Absolutely heartbreaking!

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    I was just rewatching David's Disappeared episode. Sorry if these things have already been discussed but... in the episode they said his truck was found locked, which was unusual for David... AND it was found with bricks in it... which says to me that he went to the location and got more bricks with his truck and somebody else with a habit of locking vehicles dropped it back at the Dollar General. (Would he have kept bricks he got on another day in the truck if he knew he was going back out there the day he went missing?) Also his sister said it was unlike him to ride as a passenger.... dogs lead from his truck to a short distance away, as if the driver got into another vehicle.

    I wonder if dogs would follow an unknown person's path if they had David's scent on them from driving his truck?

    But.... why would someone harm David and then leave his truck at the DG?

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    David's page at the Charley project was last updated in december 2017:

    New link:
    http://charleyproject.org/case/david-martin-riemens


    Riemens was last seen in Watertown, Tennessee on August 8, 2012. He made a phone call from a business there to make arrangements to see a property owner; Riemens, an artist and stonemason, was going to accompany this person to a home construction site to get an estimate for foundation work. He was seen in a coffeehouse talking to an unidentified man between 70 and 80 years old, possibly his client. A friend saw him going into the Dollar General store at 1:30 p.m.; they spoke and he was acting normally at the time.

    Riemens has never been heard from again. That same afternoon, his white pickup truck was found locked and abandoned in the parking lot the Dollar General. Police found his sketchpad and circular saw inside the vehicle. There was no sign of him at the scene. It's possible he got a ride to the building site with his client.


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    He was seen in a coffeehouse talking to an unidentified man between 70 and 80 years old, possibly his client.

    That is a slightly different version that what I understood before. IMHO the client was only known b/o the description that David himself had given, but the way it is said here indicates the possibility that the elderly man was indeed seen together with David.

    I wonder if LE managed to trace the phone call (land line ?) that David made to his alleged client.
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    I remember reading that LE went through photos from the event at Lulu’s Coffee House where they thought David met the man who was looking for a stone mason. They were looking for David, as well as someone who fit the description of an older man. I was under the impression they never found a person matching that description in the photos from that night.

    I also remember reading that the search of the landline phone records where David lived showed nothing.

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