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Breaking news

Malaysia Airlines says it has lost contact with a plane travelling from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, with 239 people on board.

The airline said in a statement that flight MH370 disappeared at 02:40 local time on Saturday (18:40 GMT on Friday).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26492748

I'm praying the plane is found and people on the plane survive.

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Please read the following news article for important details.

http://mobile.news.com.au/travel/tr...nes-flight-mh370/story-fnizu68q-1226863630624


In a display of bad taste, fake news profiles have popped up across social media channels claiming to have found missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

Worse, the posts include what is known as “clickjacking” scams, which redirect users to promotional websites and compromise the security of your account. Whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK on those links. Both Facebook and Twitter have been targeted.
 
Sky news discussion has just said there is a "private jet" out there searching, it can stay out longer than the other search planes but has no imaging capabilities, just people looking out of the windows. I wonder who sent that??

I also wonder who is co-ordinating the ATC over the area, quite worrying there are so many planes flying about, can't be easy ensuring there are no near misses.
 
This link takes you to the links for the AMSA statement and today's briefing by Hishammuddin Hussein.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/malaysi...tt-says-new-objects-found-20140324-35e3d.html


AMSA statement ..
http://images.smh.com.au/file/2014/03/24/5290849/AMSA%20Statement.pdf?rand=1395656821113

Today's press briefing by Hishammuddin Hussein.
http://images.smh.com.au/file/2014/...Hishammuddin%20Hussein.pdf?rand=1395657321598



(I still couldn't get your link to open Fruity, even after the fix ... maybe it was a mobile link .. even though they usually work for me? :dunno: )

ETA: Looks like it is just me - is opening for others.
 
Fixed link worked for me Fruity. Thanks :seeya:
 
As we hear news today of another sighting of stuff on the water I sure hope they were able to throw out marker bouyey at the spot. A marker bouey could float along with the debris and help ensure searchers can locate whatever it is they spotted.

If all they have is just the GPS coordinates it may end up like the wooden pallet and just disappear again unfortunately. The ocean is just too vast and too difficult to find single objects. Any plane that is doing searching needs to be forced to carry marker boueyes and if they dont have that capability to throw one out, then IMO they should not be allowed to be out there and get another plane that can.
 
This is where the manifest comes into play. By this time they should have a list of all goods carried and their package description. How hard is that?

And if the manifest is with the police, don't they have fax machines? Just ring up and say "fax me a copy". If it is top secret get a dilomatic courier to bring a copy. What if the police "accidently" destroy it how are they going to put in insurance claims?

The people at the other end should have a copy. How do they accept goods without knowing what they are supposed to have. All very suss to e
 


Wow. Can you imagine the poor passengers aboard that flight. With the ermergency power on they would have known something was wrong and they probably wondered if something more was going on. How stressful that must have been.

I do worry about the aging airplanes that many airlines have. I flew a certain airline that I wont mention about a year ago. I was shocked at how old the plane looked and everything seemed outdated and run down. I wont be flying that airline again as I heard they have an aging fleet of many airplanes.
 
Sky saying the captain of the Oz flight which spotted the objects has confirmed 4 objects have been seen, flares dropped so the ship can get to exact area:

1 rectangular
1 circular
1 long cylinder approx 2m
1 other cylindrical object

China also reporting 2 large bits of debris along with a host of smaller objects. They have an icrebreaker vessel on the way.

These are "real time" sightings from today. This really could be it folks.
 
This is where the manifest comes into play. By this time they should have a list of all goods carried and their package description. How hard is that?

And if the manifest is with the police, don't they have fax machines? Just ring up and say "fax me a copy". If it is top secret get a dilomatic courier to bring a copy. What if the police "accidently" destroy it how are they going to put in insurance claims?

The people at the other end should have a copy. How do they accept goods without knowing what they are supposed to have. All very suss to e

Confirmed so far:

Mangosteens in wooden crates
200kg lithium batteries
Electrical equipment (radios)
 
This is where the manifest comes into play. By this time they should have a list of all goods carried and their package description. How hard is that?

And if the manifest is with the police, don't they have fax machines? Just ring up and say "fax me a copy". If it is top secret get a dilomatic courier to bring a copy. What if the police "accidently" destroy it how are they going to put in insurance claims?

The people at the other end should have a copy. How do they accept goods without knowing what they are supposed to have. All very suss to e

I totally agree. That is why so many people are critical of Malaysia. Even the simplest things they seem to be hiding. Obviously they were transporting hazardous cargo and they probably were not supposed to.
 
Sky news discussion has just said there is a "private jet" out there searching, it can stay out longer than the other search planes but has no imaging capabilities, just people looking out of the windows. I wonder who sent that??

Three civilian planes -- two Bombardier Inc. Global business jets and an unspecified Airbus Group NV aircraft -- are part of the task force today as well, with 20 volunteer civilian observers on board. Australia, New Zealand, the U.S., China and Japan are operating military aircraft in the search.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...g-jet-search-buoyed-by-satellite-imagery.html
 
On Monday evening, Prime Minister Tony Abbott told parliament a Royal Australian Air Force P3 Orion located two objects, a grey or green circular object and an orange rectangular object, about 2.45pm AEDT.

The HMAS Success is in the area and attempting to recover the objects, and a US Navy P8 Poseidon, a second RAAF Orion and a Japanese Orion are also en route to try to find the items.

"It is possible that the objects could be received within the next few hours, or by tomorrow morning at the latest," Malaysian Defence Minister Hishammuddin Hussein told a press conference in Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur.

Mr Abbott cautioned, however, that they could be flotsam.

The coloured items are different to the pieces spotted by a Chinese plane earlier in the day.

The Chinese government-run Xinhua news agency reported that crew aboard one of the two Ilyushin-76 planes sent by the nation to assist in the search had spotted two relatively large floating objects and many white smaller ones scattered over several kilometres.

The sighting came as the aircraft was heading back to the RAAF base Pearce, 35km north of Perth, where the search effort is being coordinated.

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) said the US Navy P8 Poseidon aircraft went to investigate the area and did not relocate the objects

The Chinese icebreaker Xuelong changed its course toward the sighting.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/22129614/more-suspected-plane-debris-seen-off-wa/
 
the US has images too?

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The Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) said its search area continued to be defined by a U.S. satellite image of two floating objects to frame a search area some 2,500 km (1,550 miles) southwest of Perth.

The U.S. imagery was bolstered by a Chinese satellite image showing potential debris in the same region, centering the search for wreckage of the Boeing 777 jetliner south of the equator.

The French images, however, were taken some 850 km (530 miles) north of the current search area.

Maps released by the AMSA on Monday show two neighbouring search areas in the southern Indian Ocean, contradicting earlier comments by Australian Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss that the search area had been expanded north to take into account the French sighting.

"We are taking it into account but at this stage we are still focused on the same search area," the AMSA spokeswoman said. "We are taking every bit of information seriously and examining it and cross-referencing it with every other bit of information."


Read more: UPDATE 4 (Day:17) MISSING MH370: Australia still analysing French images - Latest - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-c...8238/7.490557/7.490557/7.541994#ixzz2wsWcm69x
 
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