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Breaking news

Malaysia Airlines says it has lost contact with a plane travelling from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, with 239 people on board.

The airline said in a statement that flight MH370 disappeared at 02:40 local time on Saturday (18:40 GMT on Friday).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26492748

I'm praying the plane is found and people on the plane survive.

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Worth reading - very interesting!

http://m.smh.com.au/world/search-fo...y-international-rivalries-20140327-zqnme.html


Beijing: The frantic hunt for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 has been, in one way, a nearly miraculous display of international collaboration: Twenty-six nations, many of them rivals, have opened up their territorial waters and airspace or have contributed closely held technology and surveillance data to a search that has riveted the world.

That extraordinary cooperation has been instrumental in narrowing the search to a remote part of the southern Indian Ocean this week. But the effort has also underscored the limits of trust among powers like China, Malaysia, the United States, India and Thailand, all of which bring their own, often competing, strategic interests to bear.
 
Excellent article about the search area:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/03/26/mh370_and_the_secrets_of_the_deep_dark_indian_ocean

Storms are the rule rather than the exception in this part of the world, plagued by the Roaring Forties -- the never-ending winds that howl around 40 degrees latitude south. The weather, combined with the fact that this zone, just north of Antarctica, is the only place where water can flow around the globe without hitting land, means that the waves are among the highest in the world. (Surfing is inadvisable.) That these are some of the deepest parts of the Indian Ocean, with a rugged and volcanic ocean floor, decreases the likelihood that the black boxes would be retrievable. All of which adds up to an almost impossible race against time: Those black boxes have limited battery life and will likely stop transmitting around April 7.
 
Bringing this post over from previous thread...

For some reason, I am under the impression that because Australia is in charge of the search and recovery operations at the moment, they would gain possession of the voice and data recorders.

I have absolutely no idea why I’m under that impression though, and at this point, it’s completely possible that I dreamed that up.

March 26, 2014

Mr Hussein Malaysia’s Defence and acting Transport Minister Mr Hussein said he presumed that any debris from the missing plane would be brought to Australia and he suggested that it would fall to Australia as well to investigate.

However under ICAO laws, if the plane crashed in international waters, the investigation is the responsibility of the country of the carrier

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...-in-indian-ocean/story-fnizu68q-1226863821771

Quite a mountain of info on following link & from around page 26 on the pdf...

ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization)

http://www.icao.int/safety/Pages/default.aspx

http://www.icao.int/publications/Documents/10004_cons_en.pdf
 
good morning all

a quiet moment before I start work

just read on msm twitter that the search has been called off today due to weather,
is that true?
 
good morning all

a quiet moment before I start work

just read on msm twitter that the search has been called off today due to weather,
is that true?

The search was called off later in the day due to poor weather.

"All planes are returning to Perth and ships are leaving search area," the Australian Maritime Safety Authority tweeted.

However, HMAS Success captain Alison Norris says the ship is continuing to search for any debris.

She says although weather conditions are poor, she has not received any instructions to withdraw from the search.

"I don't know, and I have not been advised of the search being called off, and I am continuing to conduct the search pattern in the search area as directed by AMSA," she said.

It is not known when the full search will resume.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-27/malaysia-airlines-mh370-thailand-spots-300-objects/5350464
 
Also...

Bad weather has halted the southern Indian Ocean search for a potential debris field from missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370

AMSA had predicted bad weather in the search area this afternoon, with low visibility and turbulent winds, and the search has now been suspended.

"All planes are returning to Perth and ships are leaving search area," AMSA tweeted.

However, HMAS Success captain Alison Norris says the ship is continuing to search for any debris

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-27/malaysia-airlines-mh370-bad-weather-halts-search/5349404
 
just read on msm twitter that the search has been called off today due to weather,
is that true?

seems the chinese ice breaker is headed out to the SAR area...

picture.php


http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/
 
This may be a daft question, but do these huge ships have speedboats on board? They must have something smaller and faster, so WHY aren't they getting to all this reported debris sooner? 300 pieces spotted by Thailand, someone should be picking it up by now, the slowness is sooo frustrating!
 
Why can't the drones fly over and take super HD video of the debris?
 
Can't even begin to imagine all the pain and grief this young man is dealing with. Wish people would wait until there is actual EVIDENCE (available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid) before condemning this pilot so quickly...

A son of the pilot of missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 has defended his father, rejecting speculation about his possible role in the plane's disappearance.
"I've read everything online. But I've ignored all the speculation. I know my father better," Ahmad Seth Zaharie, 26, said in an interview published Thursday by the New Straits Times. He is the youngest son of the 53-year-old pilot, Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/27/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/
 
Apparently, because the debris is so relatively small and just under the water’s surface – not floating right on top, probably water-logged – the boats and aircraft are having difficulty finding it. The satellites can see it, but the people and the ships' radar systems cannot locate it.

At least, that is what it sounds like to me … and it sounds like a big problem.


But Capt Norris said the ship’s spotters had found no concrete evidence of a crash site yet.

She also reiterated the massive task was still ahead of the search teams.

“The type of wreckage or object we are looking for is so close to the water line that our radars would not be able to pick it up,’’ Capt Norris said.

“We are very reliant on lookouts who use binoculars and night vision devices to scan the horizon and scan the area around our ship.

http://mobile.news.com.au/travel/tr...nes-flight-mh370/story-fnizu68q-1226865929215
 
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