Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #18

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Breaking news

Malaysia Airlines says it has lost contact with a plane travelling from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, with 239 people on board.

The airline said in a statement that flight MH370 disappeared at 02:40 local time on Saturday (18:40 GMT on Friday).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26492748

I'm praying the plane is found and people on the plane survive.

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I'm sure this has been answered, but if a passport is stolen and the person replaces it, which I assume usually happens, is the name still on the list? It's one thing if the passport is flagged as a danger, but if the authorities actually have go go figure out if it's the stolen one or real one, I can see why many countries don't have the resources.

I do not know the definitive answer, however, aren't passports numbered, and wouldn't the stolen one's number be on the Interpol list? When the person replaces that passport a new number is issued? What is curious though is if someone who alters stolen passports, as must have happened with the photograph and date of birth on the Austrian man's passport, could they not also alter the number?

:waitasec:

MOO
 
Well said. Thank you.

I'm actually curious why Australia is taking such a big role. I'm not against it or anything and I don't care if we are funding a large part of it. I think it's good. But I'm still curious why. Is it because we are the closest country? Is it because there were 6 Aussies on board? Is it strategic for our international relations? Is it because one of the themes in our countries history is 'lending a hand'? I could see gov't wanting to uphold that image. Is it good experience for all the departments and the crew involved? All or none of the above?
 
I'm actually curious why Australia is taking such a big role. I'm not against it or anything and I don't care if we are funding a large part of it. I think it's good. But I'm still curious why. Is it because we are the closest country? Is it because there were 6 Aussies on board? Is it strategic for our international relations? Is it because one of the themes in our countries history is 'lending a hand'? I could see gov't wanting to uphold that image. Is it good experience for all the departments and the crew involved? All or none of the above?

I think it's all of the above. And I'm very grateful to them for doing it. :seeya:
 
U.S. investigators say they aren't getting a full flow of information from the Malaysians—prompting some to complain to headquarters in Washington that they feel relegated to the margins, according to several people familiar with the matter. Malaysian investigators, meanwhile, are wary of information leaks they believe are occurring more regularly among their counterparts from Washington.

Twin probes into how and why the plane went down rest largely in the hands of Malaysian police and air-safety officials, and Americans working in Kuala Lumpur are convinced their side is "mainly getting bits and pieces, rather than a full download from the Malaysians," said one U.S. official briefed on the investigation. Members of the on-site U.S. contingent are "vetting all the information they do get, to ensure accuracy," the official added.

In Malaysia, the government has tight control over the media and leaks of information aren't common. By contrast, some people on the Malaysian side perceive Washington to be full of leaks, particularly in the first few days after the plane vanished March 8.

Last week, Malaysia handed over its most important physical evidence to the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation—pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah's home flight simulator and computer—for analysis. But before the FBI analysis was complete or the Malaysian government had a chance to make an announcement, a flurry of media reports from Washington revealed that the bureau hadn't found anything to explain Flight 370's disappearance.

"Washington seems to be a leaky boat," said one person familiar with the Malaysian investigation. "It erodes trust." Nevertheless, this person said concern about the Americans' role isn't seriously impeding the investigation. "We have been surprised at how many people we have been able to rope into this," this person said.

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http://online.wsj.com/news/articles...0001424052702303779504579467820263341390.html
 
Regarding the 11 items spotted, if they could retrieve at least one of them! Spotting these objects is great but seems worthless if none of it can be retrieved. The time spans must be narrowed!
 
Second Petition filed in the US:

Husband of Malaysia Airlines MH370 crew member prepares lawsuit

Today's was the second request in court that Chicago-based Boeing, which built the lost 777-200ER jet and Malaysian Airline Systems Bhd. produce information about the plane's ownership, maintenance history, flight crew training and 23 other categories of data.

"Through the initial discovery process in the courts, we will obtain for the families of the victims all the facts and information necessary to prove fault," attorney Monica R. Kelly said in a press statement announcing today's filing.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/husband...res-lawsuit-20140329-zqobp.html#ixzz2xJUaEw2W
 
We :heartbeat: our Aussies! :australia: Thank you for everything y'all are doing:loveyou:

And the occasional interviews I've seen with Kiwi and Aussie pilots doesn't hurt, either...swoon...those accents...
 
Right now they said another plane is "getting ready" to go. Two hours the first one left. Does anyone have any reason why they are sending one up every two hours O Hare throws up 2,409 per day!

Its a daylight issue no?
 
Regarding the 11 items spotted, if they could retrieve at least one of them! Spotting these objects is great but seems worthless if none of it can be retrieved. The time spans must be narrowed!

Unfortunately bad weather and the distance they have to travel to the sites have severely hampered the search. I believe they only have approximately two hours to search once they reach the destination.

Four hours travel time there, four hours back, two hours search time= ten hour flights.
 
There's about to be an "Anchorman" style news station throw down on CNN, whoa! Tempers are flaring!
 
There's about to be an "Anchorman" style news station throw down on CNN, whoa! Tempers are flaring!

You aren't kidding!

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There's about to be an "Anchorman" style news station throw down on CNN, whoa! Tempers are flaring!

Who was the guy speaking via satellite from the UK?
 
Who was the guy speaking via satellite from the UK?

I'm not sure, I didn't catch his name over Richard Quest's screaming.

Are you talking about the guy wearing glasses?
 
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