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  1. #1966
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    It appears they refueled, re-provisioned AND changed the crew.
    I still don't understand how that can't be done on the water.
    Why they can't just bring another ship out and switch them?
    Or bring out another ship to refuel/stock/switch crew.
    I would feel better if the reason was explained.

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    My curiosity got to me and I asked Kevin Rupp WHY they have to do it this way!
    Here is his response (shared with permission) for the others that were wondering.

    https://www.facebook.com/MH370NewsandInfo/

    "The primary reason for the port call is a mandatory crew change. Being stuck on a ship like that for 6 weeks at sea is tough. Crew changes are mandated.

    Transferring fuel at sea is dangerous and requires very special equipment to accomplish in a rolling sea. Any spill, no matter how small, has to be reported. The military does transfer at sea, but practices a lot and has the equipment."


    As far as why they don't just have two ships swap out to search continuously, it appears it's likely a cost issue.

    "The ships and equipment are very expensive. Each AUV is millions of dollars, and they have 8. Filling the fuel tank cost about $750,000 US dollars. And remember, Ocean Infinity is not being paid for this unless they find the aircraft."

    I definitely see the logic in it... but losing that much search time would drive me nuts. It's just so inefficient. I guess it's the best option though. I just hope they have enough time to actually find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsFacetious View Post
    My curiosity got to me and I asked Kevin Rupp WHY they have to do it this way!
    Here is his response (shared with permission) for the others that were wondering.

    https://www.facebook.com/MH370NewsandInfo/

    "The primary reason for the port call is a mandatory crew change. Being stuck on a ship like that for 6 weeks at sea is tough. Crew changes are mandated.

    Transferring fuel at sea is dangerous and requires very special equipment to accomplish in a rolling sea. Any spill, no matter how small, has to be reported. The military does transfer at sea, but practices a lot and has the equipment."


    As far as why they don't just have two ships swap out to search continuously, it appears it's likely a cost issue.

    "The ships and equipment are very expensive. Each AUV is millions of dollars, and they have 8. Filling the fuel tank cost about $750,000 US dollars. And remember, Ocean Infinity is not being paid for this unless they find the aircraft."

    I definitely see the logic in it... but losing that much search time would drive me nuts. It's just so inefficient. I guess it's the best option though. I just hope they have enough time to actually find it.
    Time has already passed IMO. Thatís a damn big, deep ocean.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MsFacetious View Post
    My curiosity got to me and I asked Kevin Rupp WHY they have to do it this way!
    Here is his response (shared with permission) for the others that were wondering.

    https://www.facebook.com/MH370NewsandInfo/

    "The primary reason for the port call is a mandatory crew change. Being stuck on a ship like that for 6 weeks at sea is tough. Crew changes are mandated.

    Transferring fuel at sea is dangerous and requires very special equipment to accomplish in a rolling sea. Any spill, no matter how small, has to be reported. The military does transfer at sea, but practices a lot and has the equipment."


    As far as why they don't just have two ships swap out to search continuously, it appears it's likely a cost issue.

    "The ships and equipment are very expensive. Each AUV is millions of dollars, and they have 8. Filling the fuel tank cost about $750,000 US dollars. And remember, Ocean Infinity is not being paid for this unless they find the aircraft."

    I definitely see the logic in it... but losing that much search time would drive me nuts. It's just so inefficient. I guess it's the best option though. I just hope they have enough time to actually find it.
    Thank you for finding out this information for us. I was very curious about all that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Only4Justice View Post
    Time has already passed IMO. That’s a damn big, deep ocean.


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    Absolutely. It would just be hard for me to leave for 12 days when I could be searching. Guess that's why I'm not in this line of work. I'd probably blow all the money having a second identical ship with identical equipment and provisions come out and swap instead of not searching. Then I probably wouldn't find the plane anyway so I'd be out the money.

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    Weekly Report #3 - February 13 2018

    Nothing to report.

    Search operations were suspended during trip to Fremantle and ship is heading back with new crew.

    Search area coverage is still at 7500 square kilometers.

    Favorable weather for this week.

    ETA -
    Kevin's dropbox link - https://www.dropbox.com/s/1wnqg3y3t0...glish.pdf?dl=0
    Last edited by watcher9; 02-13-2018 at 01:27 PM. Reason: forgot link

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    Kevin on his facebook site about 6am this morning.

    My morning update. Seabed Constructor has come to a stop. Reason unknown but I would not make much of it. 2 Images.
    https://www.facebook.com/MH370NewsandInfo/

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    Kevin's FB reported that the ship is back on its way with some 35 hours to go to get to the search site.

    I would like to think that they lowered the AUVs during the stop so they could track on the way back to the search area. If they would do that coming and going using a different route each time, it wouldn't seem like a waste of time.

    https://www.facebook.com/MH370NewsandInfo/

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    So, the search if back on. How long can they stay on station now? What are the specific dates/deadlines for the pay structure that they have to meet?

    Isn't it interesting how this story isn't even remotely on the media and public's radar anymore? Personally I find it gripping. But with so much else going on in the world, it has sure slipped attention.

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    At this rate, this plane will never be found
    It's going to be 4 years next month.
    If you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make that change!
    Where is baby Sky Metalwala? Missing since 2011!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovepierre View Post
    At this rate, this plane will never be found
    It's going to be 4 years next month.
    I hate saying this but it will be a miracle if the plane is found. I truly hope I’m wrong but it is just not probable after so much time has past. Any hope died for me when it was revealed they have no idea where the plane crashed and the locator on the black boxes died. I’m sorry for being so negative about the situation.
    Two innocent teenagers Abigail Williams and Liberty German were murdered just over a year ago in Delphi, Indiana. If you know who the man who could be responsible pleasecall the tip line. There is a reward of $250,000 - Tel- 844.459.5786 or email: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com

    May this be the year there is justice for Abigail and Liberty and William Tyrrell and Jessica Heeringa are found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregjrichards View Post
    I hate saying this but it will be a miracle if the plane is found. I truly hope I’m wrong but it is just not probable after so much time has past. Any hope died for me when it was revealed they have no idea where the plane crashed and the locator on the black boxes died. I’m sorry for being so negative about the situation.
    Its ok because a lot of us feel that way deep down. We keep hoping but the reality is that it will be a miracle if its found. The ocean is just so vast.

    Im hoping they came with updated charts and estimates that will put them on target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregjrichards View Post
    I hate saying this but it will be a miracle if the plane is found. I truly hope Iím wrong but it is just not probable after so much time has past. Any hope died for me when it was revealed they have no idea where the plane crashed and the locator on the black boxes died. Iím sorry for being so negative about the situation.
    I'm with you.
    Too much time was lost searching in the wrong area(s).
    Then the black box beacons died and the plane could no longer be tracked that way.
    Just too many things went wrong/didn't go as quickly as they should have and now the plane will more than likely never be found.

    IMO
    If you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make that change!
    Where is baby Sky Metalwala? Missing since 2011!

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