NY - Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, murdered, 1993-94, John Biltroff *GUILTY* - #2

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Colleen McNamee, (l) found dead in Shirley on January 30, 1994 and Rita Tangredi (r) found dead in East Patchogue on November 2, 1993

Officials alleged that Bittrolff left the nude bodies “uniquely positioned,” and he is also being investigated in a third cold case of a woman found posed in a similar way.

Anyone with information about Rita Tangredi, Colleen McNamee or John Bittrolff, especially concerning their activities in the early 1990’s is asked to call the Homicide Squad at 631-852-6392 or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-220-TIPS.

See more at: http://morichesdaily.com/2014/07/co...y-cold-case-murders/#sthash.80j0OCDV.dpufRita

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John Bittrolff, 48, of Manorville, was arrested on Monday, July 21, 2014, and faces charges of second-degree murder in connection with
the beating and strangulation deaths of two women more than 20 years ago, police said.
(Credit: SCPD
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http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...1990s-murders-of-two-women-cops-say-1.8862420
Cops: Manorville man charged in two cold case murders

Long Island Murder Suspect May Be Linked to Three Deaths, Say Officials

Wood chips bolster case against Long Island man accused in 20-year-old murders: prosecutors

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I thought I saw some where that it was transferred to him from her in 2003 and I thought that was odd. All info found online isn't always accurate though.

Edit: This is what I saw, she is shown as seller and the both of them as buyers...maybe something to do with an earlier law suit...I don't know.

Maybe she bought the lot and he built the house so it was in her name and then added him later?

http://longisland.blockshopper.com/property/47-22-89-590-000-0003-041-002-0000/167_silas_carter
 
I thought I saw some where that it was transferred to him from her in 2003 and I thought that was odd. All info found online isn't always accurate though.

Edit: This is what I saw, she is shown as seller and the both of them as buyers...maybe something to do with an earlier law suit...I don't know.

Maybe she bought the lot and he built the house so it was in her name and then added him later?

http://longisland.blockshopper.com/property/47-22-89-590-000-0003-041-002-0000/167_silas_carter

That could have been a way to add his name to the house. I'm thinking that if she had a mortgage in her name, then she would have sold the property and the couple would have bought it in order to include him on the mortgage and as a legal owner.

I'm thinking his wife has been something of a sugar mama in his life!

ETA: Somebody is paying for LI's top criminal attorney!
 
I'm guessing they probably won't seek to make more of a connection to any other victims- whether there are any or not; especially ones that are part of a complicated serial killer investigation. I bet they just want to get a conviction and have him put away for life. Then they can work on making a deal (give him some wood chips) and get him to talk about other victims.

But dammit get in that house and look through his ***** for crying outloud! Have any locals seen any in the way of this? Anything at all????
nope,nadda,nothing.ipassed by this morning about 9am and the outside light was on above front door.thats the only indication that someone mght possibly be there staying.other then that all is quiet in the neighborhood.
 
So would the wood chips be some weird part of his signature, or just sloppiness?

The three pieces of evidence that have been mentioned - the DNA, the incriminating comments JB made when picked up, and the wood chips - I'm hoping there's more, as I can see a defense lawyer putting on a good show with just that. And JB's attorney has said, in order, that "sex isn't murder", that he hadn't been aware that JB had said anything to LE before he was on the case (we hope the Miranda part was taken care of correctly), and that there's thousands of carpenters.

Speaking of Bittrolff's attorney, he certainly got himself the right attorney, and he must be pricey (who's paying?). William Keahon doesn't just have the bona fides (Chief of Homicide with the Suffolk DA's office before founding his private practice), but he's also defended exactly this kind of case before (still, as per that link to his home page, there's apparently no level of professional accomplishment that ensures you'll get your copy proofread. Just a peeve of mine, look at the second sentence here: "His cases range from high profile white collar crimes to murder trials and everything in between. To attempt to reference or name them all would be futile, if he is not on trial he is preparing for another one." First, it's a semi-colon needed there, not a comma, but more importantly I don't think Mr. Keahon is actually ever "on trial". Sentence should read, "To attempt to reference or name them all would be futile: when he's not at a trial, he's preparing for one". Anyway...). This 2009 Newsday article notes that Keahon is one of Long Island's most prominent defense attorney's and has represented, among others, serial killer Robert Shulman, and Evan Marshall, who beheaded a retired teacher. Keahon tried to claim that Shulman, who bludgeoned and dismembered five prostitutes in the Hicksville area in the late 90's, had confessed under duress, and then suggested that it was Shulman's brother who really committed the crimes - those attempts both failed, and he died in prison in 2006 after being sentenced to life.Marshall, a sicko of the worst order, in 2007 beheaded and dismembered his victim and stored the parts in his parent's Glen Cove home, where he also lived. Keahon tried to claim that his client couldn't have put the body parts there because he didn't really live there; the police produced a driver's license where Marshall used his parents address. So Keahon then tried to claim that there was no photographs or proper logs of the police finding the body parts at the parents address. That ploy failed as well, and Marshall received a term of 30 years.
keanon is the best defense attorney on the island.
 
It will be very interesting when this goes to trial. They will have to tell the position of the bodies and what wardrobe/possibly article of clothing the killer took. I hope they find the car or truck he was using back then or his workshops and go over them with a fine tooth comb. In the Lisk sister's case, in Virginia, when a later victim escaped Richard Evonitz, his car was seized and a single hand print from years before proved that one of the sisters had been in the trunk of his car.
there is a black pick up truck in the backyard next to a shed.it has been in the same spot and has not moved.im sure this truck is not the one from the 90s but it isn't new either.it does look like a work truck.anyway I would think they would have takin it and gone over it with a finetooth comb to see if there is any dna from any unsolved murders.
Fingers crossed they can come up with solid evidence of other crime scenes. Those wood chips had to come from somewhere
 
LE confirmed out of the 4 families, they couldn't contact one. My money is on Kim Overstreet. Taking a wild guess, remember she was the one to say she would be volunteering to lure "the guy"... Though me thinks she's probably <modsnip> somewhere in North Carolina or something. But who knows....

Reg the modsnipped word; I'm sorry, I agree it is unnecessary but I did not use that to insult Kim. I'm not the one to judge the victims or the families for anything they do/did. I just expressed my opinion that she is "safe" and as to how the contact may have been lost.

The point in my post is; there is a victim's sister who openly declared that she would try to make a bait out of herself and LE says they lost contact with her. Good job. That deserves a "bravo", if Kim turns up dead that is a medal worthy botch.
 
Hi all, i haven't seen this mentioned yet, (Modsnip)
 
@Jenny9.....o/t
I keep wanting to call you "jenny from the block".....lol......sorry.

Thanks for the updates!!
 
Another good point. They would have done forensics on the wood evidence, correct?

I would assume so. I'm sure that if LE is associating these woodchips with carpentry, they are pretty distinct. In other words, clearly not just chopped up pieces of logs, shavings you use for animal bedding, or the kind of chips you find in mulch. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say they were small pieces of wood left over from sawing lumber. But who knows?
 
Allison Jackson Foy Suspect Iannone and John Mike Bitrolff.jpgPlease look at this post: Bittrolff and the suspect in the Wilmington, NC murder of Allison Jackson Foy (Originally from LI) could be described as look-a-likes!!!!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...le-Victims-**MERGED**&p=10814203#post10814203
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And note in this composite sketch of the supect:
the pinched skin above the nose and between the eyebrows
The LEFT EAR is more pronounced/bigger

Allison was new to Wilmington, troubled marriage and had started taking prescription drugs.
She was from long Island. This says her father lives in Oyster Bay
Found Deceased: Allison Jackson Foy - NC - 07/30/2006 - Page 3 ...
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... friends and family in Long Island, N.Y., held a remembrance for her. ... including John R. Mazalewski of Oyster Bay, N.Y., whose daughter, ...
 
View attachment 56140Please look at this post: Bittrolff and the suspect in the Wilmington, NC murder of Allison Jackson Foy (Originally from LI) could be described as look-a-likes!!!!
It's an uncanny resemblance; look at the neck area in each, one almost looks like a photoshop of the other. I think if Bittrolff grew his beard out a little, the extra gray would make the resemblance even more acute.
 
So I heard back from a friend of mine who is a research psychologist. I asked him about JB's wonk ear (recall the link I previously posted) and that weird wrinkle pattern on his head. Here's what my friend said:

You are on to something. There is a small branch of study called criminal anthropology that looks at physical measurements and deformities of criminals to assess for markers. There has also been histories of either head infections or head injuries in killers like Berkowitz and Gacy. Also Limbic or temporal lobe seizures are very common in serial killers childhoods. Prefrontal cortex abnormalities are also very common.

Based on the fact that the weird area is around his forehead, I would venture to guess that JB has a prefrontal cortex abnormality.

See my previous posts for more info: #926, #980, #910
 
So I heard back from a friend of mine who is a research psychologist. I asked him about JB's wonk ear (recall the link I previously posted) and that weird wrinkle pattern on his head. Here's what my friend said:



Based on the fact that the weird area is around his forehead, I would venture to guess that JB has a prefrontal cortex abnormality.

See my previous posts for more info: #926, #980, #910
If you haven't read this book, you should. It's probably the most comprehensive work on the topic to date. I know it changed the way I view serial killers and habitual violent offenders. Where John Douglas is the"Mindhunter", Dr. Pincus is the "Brainhunter"

http://books.google.com/books?id=c_vlTkkvEI0C&pg=PA9&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://neurology.georgetown.edu/faculty/pincus

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130048

http://www.amazon.com/Base-Instincts-What-Makes-Killers/dp/0393323234
 
If you haven't read this book, you should. It's probably the most comprehensive work on the topic to date. I know it changed the way I view serial killers and habitual violent offenders. Where John Douglas is the"Mindhunter", Dr. Pincus is the "Brainhunter"

http://books.google.com/books?id=c_vlTkkvEI0C&pg=PA9&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://neurology.georgetown.edu/faculty/pincus

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130048

http://www.amazon.com/Base-Instincts-What-Makes-Killers/dp/0393323234

Thanks!

I'd also recommend The Psychopath Inside, in which the neuroscientist author discovers that HE is a psychopath, and delves into both the genetic and environmental factors that lead to violence in psychopaths. Warning: the author's narcissism bleeds through his words, but the book is fascinating. Especially the discussion of genes that have been linked to violence.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1591846005?pc_redir=1406880960&robot_redir=1

This is a question I have struggles with for many years. I've seen psychopaths described as "people who aren't people." But can we blame them and punish them for something that they seemingly can't control? No doubt they should be locked up either way. But it's an interesting ethical conundrum, IMO.
 

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