Robert Durst Connection?

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Hey Everyone! Long time, no sleuth!

I'm sure you're all familiar with Robert Durst at this point, but if you're not, he's a suspected serial killer whom the FBI a is attempting to link to various missing persons cold cases across the country: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-fbi-durst-link-cold-cases-20150318-story.html

So I was surprised that it seems no one here has brought up Robert Durst in relation to some of victims that have been discussed as possibly being connected to the LISK. Yes, I realize that it's awfully convenient to blame him for a lot of unsolved murders. However, we have some indication that Durst's MO included dismemberment and decapitation, and dumping parts in a body of water.

I'm specifically thinking of the victim whose torso washed up in Mamaroneck, which is Westchester County, where Durst lived. In fact, I'm taking a second look at all the victims who were dismembered. At this point I don't see anything that would link Durst to the GB4, but admittedly I haven't done that much research yet.

Thoughts?
 
Hey Everyone! Long time, no sleuth!

I'm sure you're all familiar with Robert Durst at this point, but if you're not, he's a suspected serial killer whom the FBI a is attempting to link to various missing persons cold cases across the country: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-fbi-durst-link-cold-cases-20150318-story.html

So I was surprised that it seems no one here has brought up Robert Durst in relation to some of victims that have been discussed as possibly being connected to the LISK. Yes, I realize that it's awfully convenient to blame him for a lot of unsolved murders. However, we have some indication that Durst's MO included dismemberment and decapitation, and dumping parts in a body of water.

I'm specifically thinking of the victim whose torso washed up in Mamaroneck, which is Westchester County, where Durst lived. In fact, I'm taking a second look at all the victims who were dismembered. At this point I don't see anything that would link Durst to the GB4, but admittedly I haven't done that much research yet.

Thoughts?


Great catch LikeAHunter!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Durst

Robert Alan Durst (born April 12, 1943)


I found these adresses on Robert A Durst:

Robert A Durst in the U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1

Name: Robert A Durst
Birth Date: 12 Apr 1943
Phone Number: 988-8676
[999-9999]
Address: 1133 Avenue of The Americas FL 32, New York, NY, 10036-6710 (1994)
[1133 Avenue of The Americas, New York, NY, 10036-6710]
[28 Arrowhead Dr, Upper Saddle River, NJ, 07458-1301 (1993)]


This address of Robert Durst's: 1133 Avenue of The Americas, New York, NY, is located:
0.2 miles from the Super 8 hotel where Brainard-Barnes stayed the day she disappeared (she disappeared July 9, 2007)
0.1 miles from where Melissa Barthelemy was arrested Sept. 12, 2008.(she disappeared on July 12, 2009)
0.2 miles from Time square wherefrom the killer phoned Melissa Marthelemy's little sister in July-Aug 2009



Melissa Barthelemy was arrested Sept. 12, 2008 at 6th & W 46th in Manhattan. (she disappeared on July 12, 2009)
Maureen Brainard-Barnes Super 8 Motel was at 59 W 46th in Manhattan (between 5th & 6th) (she disappeared July 9, 2007)
 
I don't think so. Not unless they can connect it to someone he knows. I don't believe he kills to kill. I think he kills when people get personal and in his way of freedom or what he wants.. But certainly worth looking into .
 
Wow, Foreigner! That's interesting. I was really thinking that he'd more likely be connected to the LI victims outside the GB4, but it seems that it may be worth looking into a GB4 connection further! If nothing else, I'm thinking it's worth trying to rule him out as the LISK simply because he's a suspected SK (a definite SK if you ask me) living VERY close to Long Island. I'm also struck by the fact that MB's sister said LISK sounded like "an older white guy," which is exactly what Durst is. And I do think that he is absolutely the type that would call a family member of a victim to taunt them. He thinks he's the smartest person in the room and seems to enjoy flaunting what he's done.

Scarlett, not sure how familiar you are with Durst, but I can totally understand why you would think he only kills when someone gets in his way, because The Jinx docuseries really set it up to seem that way. However, I believe that he displays classic serial killer psychopathology and I would be truly shocked if the FBI doesn't link him to many more murders.
 
Please define GB4 and LISK please. Thanks
 
Wow, Foreigner! That's interesting. I was really thinking that he'd more likely be connected to the LI victims outside the GB4, but it seems that it may be worth looking into a GB4 connection further! If nothing else, I'm thinking it's worth trying to rule him out as the LISK simply because he's a suspected SK (a definite SK if you ask me) living VERY close to Long Island. I'm also struck by the fact that MB's sister said LISK sounded like "an older white guy," which is exactly what Durst is. And I do think that he is absolutely the type that would call a family member of a victim to taunt them. He thinks he's the smartest person in the room and seems to enjoy flaunting what he's done.

Scarlett, not sure how familiar you are with Durst, but I can totally understand why you would think he only kills when someone gets in his way, because The Jinx docuseries really set it up to seem that way. However, I believe that he displays classic serial killer psychopathology and I would be truly shocked if the FBI doesn't link him to many more murders.

Oh I think he absolutely could have killed more people. But I think anyone he killed will be connected to him in more than a casual way. He kills people he has relationships with. So I believe that there are probably more people he had a hand in killing but they will be people that he knew in some way. Not just a random person..
 
Please define GB4 and LISK please. Thanks

GB4 = Gilgo Beach 4 victims :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Island_serial_killer

Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, of Norwich, Connecticut, was a prostitute who advertised her services online. Maureen, who was only four feet eleven inches tall and one hundred five pounds, went to Long Island, New York, "to spend the day in New York City" and was never seen again.[26] Maureen, a struggling mother, escorted off of Craigslist to pay the mortgage on her house, but after successfully leaving the sex industry for seven months Maureen eventually returned to pay her bills after receiving an eviction notice.[27] She was last seen on July 9, 2007, when she left Norwich for New York City.[28] Her body was found in December 2010.[29]

Melissa Barthelemy, 24, of Erie County, New York, went missing on July 10, 2009. She had been living in the Bronx and working as an escort through Craigslist.[30] On the night she went missing, she met with a client, deposited $900 in her bank account and attempted to call an old boyfriend, but did not get through. Beginning one week after her disappearance, and lasting for five weeks, her teenage sister, Amanda, received a series of "vulgar, mocking and insulting" calls from someone who may have been the killer, using her sister's cell phone.[31]

Megan Waterman, 22, of South Portland, Maine, went missing on June 6, 2010, after placing advertisements on Craigslist as an escort; the day before she had told her 20-year-old boyfriend that she was going out and would call him later. At the time of her disappearance, she was staying at a motel in Hauppauge, NY, 15 miles northeast of Gilgo Beach. Her body was also recovered in December 2010.[32]

Amber Lynn Costello, 27, of North Babylon, New York, a town ten miles north of Gilgo Beach. She was a prostitute and a heroin user, and went missing on September 2, 2010.[32] On the night she disappeared, she went to meet a stranger who had called her several times and offered her $1,500 for her services.[33] As of 2012 Costello's sister and fellow prostitute, Kimberly Overstreet, has vowed to use the same Craigslist booking system as her sister in an effort to lure the killer.[34]



And JFYI:

And sometimes you will see we use another abbreviation: AC4
and AC4 stands for; Atlantic City 4 victims.

In April 2011 both SCPD and ACPD LE in media talked about a possible connection between the GB4 and the AC4 cases, but a couple of days later they said they believed there was no connection.
But then in a dec 2014 at a press conference with Atlantic County prosecutor Jim McClain a
Journalist asked Jim McClain: "any reason to think there might be any connection between the Gilgo Beach Long Island killer and what happened the in Atlantic City?

James Mcclain (Atlantic City prosecutor) answer: "I am not prepared to discuss that"

So it seems that LE believe there could be a connection after all, otherwise McClain would have said "no" to the journalist's question IMO.


ATLANTIC CITY SERIAL KILLER VICTIMS

All 4 victims were found November 20, 2006.
Their bodies was found in a drainage ditch filled with shallow water behind the Golden Key Motel on the Black Horse Pike in Egg Harbor Township, situated on the outskirts of Atlantic City, New Jersey.
All of them were placed face down in a row, facing east, about sixty feet apart from each other. They were clothed except for having their shoes and socks removed.
Two of the victims were believed to have been strangled to death, the other two victims was too decomposed to determine COD.
At least 3 of the victims (Kim Raffo, Tracy Ann Roberts and Molly Dilts) knew each other.
Kim Raffo (and her x-husband HA) had spent 5 weeks at Long island in sept-oct, just before she was murdered)


Kim Raffo was the last victim of the AC4, and Molly Jean Dilts was the first victim, there is no doubt about that whatsoever.

Molly Jean Dilts disappeared Oct 7, 2006, and the bodys was found Nov 20, 2006.

here is info on the 4 AC4 victims:

KIM RAFFO, 35.
Born in Brooklyn, lived in Florida with her husband and two kids in 1990s, volunteering with the Girl Scouts and PTA. Enrolled in a cooking class at a technical school, and met a drug user who introduced her to cocaine and heroin. Her husband took the kids and left; Raffo and her boyfriend settled in Atlantic City, where she worked as a waitress before turning to prostitution. She was clad in a Hard Rock Cafe tank top when her body was found after a few days in the ditch. She had been strangled with either a rope or a cord.

4th AC victim, last seen Nov 19, 2006

Cause of death: killed by ligature strangulation

Toxicology report Kim Raffo: large amounts of cocaine

Kim Raffo, 35 native of Brooklyn, born on Long island, lived in Fort Lauderdale Florida from 1988-2002

Last known address: Kim Raffo: 100 block of Ocean Avenue in Atlantic City, NJ

Mother of 2 children, a daughter then 14, and a son then 12 years old.

Tattoo: No info of any tattoo

DOB: Feb. 11, 1971





TRACY ANN ROBERTS, 23.
Grew up in New Castle, Del. She lived in Philadelphia before working in strip clubs in and around Atlantic City until she began hooking on the streets, where co-workers called her “the young one” or “the pretty one.” She lived in the same run-down area of seedy rooming houses as Raffo, whom she had befriended on the streets. Wearing a red hooded sweat shirt and a black bra, her body had been in the ditch anywhere from a couple of days to a week.

3rd AC victim, last seen Nov 15, 2006

Cause of death: died of asphyxiation "by unspecified means"

Toxicology report Tracy Roberts: large amounts of cocaine

Tracy Ann Roberts, 23, native of New Castle (some say Bear), Delaware, but alleged lived in Philadelphia, and at some point also in Georgia, before AC

Last known address: Tracy Ann Roberts: South Tennessee Avenue, Atlantic City, NJ

Mother of a then-5-year-old daughter.

tattoo: A butterfly tattoo on the small of her back.

DOB: April 7, 1983




BARBARA V. BREIDOR, 42.
Raised in Pennsylvania, rented a house in Ventnor, just outside Atlantic City. She ran her family’s Boardwalk jewelry store and worked as a cocktail waitress before a longtime drug problem worsened and pushed her into prostitution. Prosecutors said she had a “lethal” level of heroin in her system at the time of her death. Authorities were unable to determine how she died. Wearing blue jeans and a long-sleeve zippered shirt, she had been in the ditch at least two weeks.

2nd AC victim, last seen Oct 17, 2006

Cause of death: her body was too decomposed to determine COD

Toxicology reportBarbara Breidor: potentially lethal dose of heroin

Barbara Breidor, 42, native of Huntingdon Valley, Pennsylvania

Last known address: Lafayette Ave, Ventnor City, NJ

Mother of a daughter, then 9, who was adopted and lived with Barbaras sister in Florida.

Tattoo: No info of any tattoo

DOB: June 5, 1964






MOLLY JEAN DILTS, 20.
Grew up in Blairsville, Pa. Left behind a young son with his father in Pennsylvania to head to Atlantic City after a series of drug arrests. A former fast-food cook, she had never been arrested for prostitution in Atlantic City, although numerous streetwalkers said they saw her working in the sex trade as well in the short time between her arrival here and her death. Her body showed no traces of drugs, but she had been drinking just before her death. Clad in a denim miniskirt, a bra and mesh blouse, Dilts was believed to have been in the ditch the longest _ up to a month.

1st AC victim, Last seen Oct 7, 2006

Cause of death: Her body was too decomposed to determine COD

Toxicology report Molly Dilts: alcohol (no drugs)

Molly jean Dilts, 20, native of Blairsville, Pennsylvania
Last known address: not known

Mother of a then-18-month-old son who was living with her (Molly's father) father.

Tattoo:
a bulldog tattooed on her back,
a Playboy bunny tattooed on her right shoulder,
and “Molly” tattooed near her navel

DOB: June 24, 1986



Here is a post of mine explaining why I believe the GB4 and the AC4 cases are connected:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...e-GB4-and-other-murders&p=8187068#post8187068
 
Non of these fit his profile IMO.
He was not a random slasher and I think he would have sexually assaulted anyone.
 
at a young age he killed dogs and fantasied about his mothers death fall from a roof..........
found this also
http://jezebel.com/robert-durst-eyed-in-1997-disappearance-of-two-teen-gir-1692298794

Several news outlets are reporting that the disappearances of 18-year-old Kristen Modafferi and 16-year-old Karen Marie Mitchell may be tied to Durst.

I don't believe it. Not everything I have read and know about him now. His mother's death was not a fantasy it was real. I bet he may have killed dogs. But I think for him if he killed young people it would have been when he was young. He seems to kill contemporaries.
I may be wrong and he may turn out to be the zodiac killer but I don't think this is his MO.
 
I forgot what show it was on,maybe NG,but yes the FBI was looking at him but have dismissed him as the LISK. I live on Long Island and the not so secret is the POI has committed suicide after he realized LE was looking at him.
 
I forgot what show it was on,maybe NG,but yes the FBI was looking at him but have dismissed him as the LISK. I live on Long Island and the not so secret is the POI has committed suicide after he realized LE was looking at him.

However, you're posting on a thread in a forum where the many of us have researched the LISK a for years and don't believe that POI was the killer. :) And you can find many threads in this LISK forum about problems with the Suffolk County Police Department. The fact is that the Gilgo Beach murders have not been solved, and there is ongoing debate about whether a number of other victims can be attributed to the SK.
 
However, you're posting on a thread in a forum where the many of us have researched the LISK a for years and don't believe that POI was the killer. :) And you can find many threads in this LISK forum about problems with the Suffolk County Police Department. The fact is that the Gilgo Beach murders have not been solved, and there is ongoing debate about whether a number of other victims can be attributed to the SK.

I was actually commenting on the suspicion of Durst being the LISK. I have read on the regular LISK thread. I think it's possible that there is more than one killer. My info comes directly from 2 homicide detectives. I also know other people that were told the same story. Anyhow, I think Durst is not resposible.
 
Understood. :) I'm of the mind that he needs to be ruled out as the LISK, and I think there is an intriguing possibility that he could be responsible for Cherries in Mamaroneck, along with some of the dismembered victims that have turned up on Long Island.
 
I saw ID's "Vanity Fair Confidential "tonight on Durst. At the end there's a PI who says she found that Durst did know Morris Black and his brother prior to Durst going to Galveston. It was business related. Also, Morris had $130,000.00 in his account and yet had no job. Hmm
 
I forgot what show it was on,maybe NG,but yes the FBI was looking at him but have dismissed him as the LISK. I live on Long Island and the not so secret is the POI has committed suicide after he realized LE was looking at him.
We dont know why he killed himself. There are several nurseries on LI. Those locations were probably checked out too. Along with clam diggers, fishermam, ect, ect.
 
I saw ID's "Vanity Fair Confidential "tonight on Durst. At the end there's a PI who says she found that Durst did know Morris Black and his brother prior to Durst going to Galveston. It was business related. Also, Morris had $130,000.00 in his account and yet had no job. Hmm

I saw that and thought it was very interesting that Black and his brother were from NY & in contracting business somehow connected to Durst. And Durst dressed up like a woman during that time which caused suspicion that he did so to avoid Black recognizing him. They said the little old woman rarely came outside and wasn't seen often. Wasn't he/she living directly across the street from Morris Black? Also mentioned was how precisely Black's remains were chopped up and all were found except the head. They suspect he went back to the bay to retrieve the head. Dude's a bonafide psychpath, IMO.

He also seems to enjoy toying with people like LISK. He fits my profile of lisk: well off and carries large sums of $ on his person to fly under the radar, more than one residence, (one where he stored the bodies of GB4 until he disposed of them), travels, married (of convenience? he gave his wife POA so she would have access to his $ in case he was arrested), over 40 yrs old, HUGE ego. Also access to burlap from construction, landscaping, fine art, possible shellfish.

I wouldn't rule him out yet but that's, JMO. Wish I had DVR'd that episode as I watched in the middle of the night while awake with insomnia so I was a 'bit foggy'. I wonder if Amanda would recognize his voice after all this time. Hopefully the FBI will check out his movements during the time these women disappeared. The only locations he's been I recall mentioned in MSM were NY, NJ, PA, LA, TX & CA.

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