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Jayelles
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I recall reading about such a website on the RST forum some time ago, but I never felt inclined to search for it. I feel very sorry for Burke and the notoriety which surrounds him. "Some people" may feel it's OK to stalk the Ramseys on the grounds that they are Ramsey supporters, but I would imagine that the Ramseys resent them just as much if not more.
Our Big Brother has been especially lurid this year with one housemate developing a crazed obsession about one of the others. People have been incredulous about the level of obsession which this bloke (Craig) has displayed about the other (Anthony) and it reminds me very much of an Internet personality who has displayed a similar obsession about the Ramseys. It started with friendly enough banter but viewers watched as Craig's mental health deteriorated as he guarded Anthony 24/7 and started to viciously attack anyone who came near him. Anthony is an easy-going bloke who didn't want to hurt Craig's feelings but the rows between them became increasingly more frequent as Craig imagined slights where there were none and even started thinking that anyone else who spoke to Anthony was actually doing so because they were trying to destroy Craig! Craig tried to justify his obsession by saying that he was "defending" Anthony - yet Anthony has been popular (and has been favourite to win almost since the start) - and not in need of any defending! Craig told lie after lie whilst he was in the house and amazingly seemed to believe his own lies - yet he seemed blissfully unaware that he was bringing about his own problems with his behaviour! Craig has been the most hated man on TV in several polls because of his obsessive behaviour and huge ego and he was voted out this week by the public to loud boos.
I am fascinated by human behaviour and see many parallels here - obsessiveness, possessiveness, an inability to acknowledge responsibility for error, lying, cheating and attempts to undermine the integrity of those who are seen to be the "enemy". When Craig saw that Anthony was happy to ignore him and that his attempts to woo him back with histrionics were failing, Craig poured beer over him and engineered an "accident" whereby Anthony got hit on the head with a battery pack. He finally resorted to slagging Anthony off to the others (one to one) saying that he had only ever had Anthony's best interests at heart and that Anthony's rejection was a sign of unbelievable ingratitude LOL
This all has a very familiar ring to it
Our Big Brother has been especially lurid this year with one housemate developing a crazed obsession about one of the others. People have been incredulous about the level of obsession which this bloke (Craig) has displayed about the other (Anthony) and it reminds me very much of an Internet personality who has displayed a similar obsession about the Ramseys. It started with friendly enough banter but viewers watched as Craig's mental health deteriorated as he guarded Anthony 24/7 and started to viciously attack anyone who came near him. Anthony is an easy-going bloke who didn't want to hurt Craig's feelings but the rows between them became increasingly more frequent as Craig imagined slights where there were none and even started thinking that anyone else who spoke to Anthony was actually doing so because they were trying to destroy Craig! Craig tried to justify his obsession by saying that he was "defending" Anthony - yet Anthony has been popular (and has been favourite to win almost since the start) - and not in need of any defending! Craig told lie after lie whilst he was in the house and amazingly seemed to believe his own lies - yet he seemed blissfully unaware that he was bringing about his own problems with his behaviour! Craig has been the most hated man on TV in several polls because of his obsessive behaviour and huge ego and he was voted out this week by the public to loud boos.
I am fascinated by human behaviour and see many parallels here - obsessiveness, possessiveness, an inability to acknowledge responsibility for error, lying, cheating and attempts to undermine the integrity of those who are seen to be the "enemy". When Craig saw that Anthony was happy to ignore him and that his attempts to woo him back with histrionics were failing, Craig poured beer over him and engineered an "accident" whereby Anthony got hit on the head with a battery pack. He finally resorted to slagging Anthony off to the others (one to one) saying that he had only ever had Anthony's best interests at heart and that Anthony's rejection was a sign of unbelievable ingratitude LOL
This all has a very familiar ring to it
Thanx Jayelles, I'm not sure where I read about that website, I thought it might be interesting to look at some pics of Burke. I too feel very sorry for him, his life was ruined that night.
Your last years Big Brother winner was a guest on our Big Brother here in Australia just this week, she/he seemed to enjoy himself/herself!
Your last years Big Brother winner was a guest on our Big Brother here in Australia just this week, she/he seemed to enjoy himself/herself!
Jayelles
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"Our" Nadia LOLnarlacat said:
Nadia was so popular but she didn't have an inkling that she was. She was absolutely terrified of coming out of the house and displayed many symptoms of stress. She was convinced that the world hated her and that she would be crucified. None of the other housemates knew she was a transexual. It was hilarious to see their reactions on being told when they came out of the house.
Re Burke. There was a recent photo of him at jameson's. He is very tall and thin. I was rather surprised that jameson permitted a recent photo of him to be posted over yonder - considering how they proclaim to want him left alone. You either want to protect the guy from an invasion of his privacy or you don't. It's hypocritical to say "leave him alone" whilst posting recent photos of him so that the world can see what he looks like these days. Still, double standards are to be expected from certain sources.
Nehemiah
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Jayelles said:I recall reading about such a website on the RST forum some time ago, but I never felt inclined to search for it. I feel very sorry for Burke and the notoriety which surrounds him. "Some people" may feel it's OK to stalk the Ramseys on the grounds that they are Ramsey supporters, but I would imagine that the Ramseys resent them just as much if not more.
Our Big Brother has been especially lurid this year with one housemate developing a crazed obsession about one of the others. People have been incredulous about the level of obsession which this bloke (Craig) has displayed about the other (Anthony) and it reminds me very much of an Internet personality who has displayed a similar obsession about the Ramseys. It started with friendly enough banter but viewers watched as Craig's mental health deteriorated as he guarded Anthony 24/7 and started to viciously attack anyone who came near him. Anthony is an easy-going bloke who didn't want to hurt Craig's feelings but the rows between them became increasingly more frequent as Craig imagined slights where there were none and even started thinking that anyone else who spoke to Anthony was actually doing so because they were trying to destroy Craig! Craig tried to justify his obsession by saying that he was "defending" Anthony - yet Anthony has been popular (and has been favourite to win almost since the start) - and not in need of any defending! Craig told lie after lie whilst he was in the house and amazingly seemed to believe his own lies - yet he seemed blissfully unaware that he was bringing about his own problems with his behaviour! Craig has been the most hated man on TV in several polls because of his obsessive behaviour and huge ego and he was voted out this week by the public to loud boos.
I am fascinated by human behaviour and see many parallels here - obsessiveness, possessiveness, an inability to acknowledge responsibility for error, lying, cheating and attempts to undermine the integrity of those who are seen to be the "enemy". When Craig saw that Anthony was happy to ignore him and that his attempts to woo him back with histrionics were failing, Craig poured beer over him and engineered an "accident" whereby Anthony got hit on the head with a battery pack. He finally resorted to slagging Anthony off to the others (one to one) saying that he had only ever had Anthony's best interests at heart and that Anthony's rejection was a sign of unbelievable ingratitude LOL
This all has a very familiar ring to it
Frighteningly, I once had someone obsessed with me much like that. Although I escaped from the spider web, from a distance I have observed her obsess over 3 other people since me.
I have wondered if SS were obsessed with Patsy to that degree?
Jayelles
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Scary. This lad Craig on BB literally would not let Anthony out of his sight. He said that he found it difficult to cope when Anthony spoke to anyone else. I thought he was going to have some kind of breakdown. It's obviously a mental illness.Nehemiah said:
I've often wondered about Susan Stine. I thought it was creepy the way she spoke about the Ramseys on Tracey I. Some people have thought she had an unnatural affection for Patsy. Was she jealous of JonBenet? Resentful of the fact that Patsy was so involved in pageants and with pageant people?
Who knows? I think she caused harm to the Ramseys through her affiliations with certain people. I think she was indiscrete.
omg, how could the housemates have not known she was a transexual? Even just watching her on tv, that is so plain to see. We had Miriam come on the last BB, and even she(who I think looks more like a girl than Nadia)only lasted a few hours without being found out.Jayelles said:
It would have been funny to watch the other housemates reactions on finding out.
I will go and see if I can see that pic of Burke over at Jameson's, thanx for that.
Nehemiah
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Narla, please let us know if you find it. Thanks.
Nehemiah
I had a quick look over at Jameson's and couldnt see the pic there, I will have to look again when I have more time..I will have more time tomorrow and will have another look then and come back and let u know.
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I didnt realize Nadia has had the 'op'. One of my girlfriends is a runner on BB and had to take Nadia somewhere, maybe to the airport. She has also worked on Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here and the rule there is, not to talk to celebrities, so she asked if she was allowed to talk to her and they said...."yes but dont mention the op!"
I shouldnt have put her and Miriam in the same category really, though out of the two I'd say Miriam looks more like a girl than Nadia does.
I had a quick look over at Jameson's and couldnt see the pic there, I will have to look again when I have more time..I will have more time tomorrow and will have another look then and come back and let u know.
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I didnt realize Nadia has had the 'op'. One of my girlfriends is a runner on BB and had to take Nadia somewhere, maybe to the airport. She has also worked on Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here and the rule there is, not to talk to celebrities, so she asked if she was allowed to talk to her and they said...."yes but dont mention the op!"
I shouldnt have put her and Miriam in the same category really, though out of the two I'd say Miriam looks more like a girl than Nadia does.
Jayelles
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Poor Nadia. Yes, she had her sex change op before she was on BB. I agree with you that she is still quite masculine in her appearance but her housemates were fooled and they didn't know she was a transexual. The public all knew that she was. One of the other housemates DID comment on the first night that he thought she was a man but he actually changed his mind and felt bad about thinking it! I think the thing is that Nadia is very feminine in her behaviour. Her jawline is still masculine and her voice is that of a deep voiced female. I think the fact that she is Portugese detracts from her voice a bit because she has a heavy accent. She and the runner up hated each other like poison and he called her some pretty horrible names - including butch but he was truly gobsmacked to find out that she was a transexualnarlacat said:
The photo of Burke was (if I remember correctly) pretty buried on a thread. I came across it by accident when I was searching for something else. It was a largish photo and I was just pretty shocked that jameson had allowed a recent photo of Burke to be posted when it is clear that the ramseys have tried to protect his privacy.
I am uncomfortable with a recent photo of Burke being posted. I have children of his age and I teach young people in that age group. Iwould want to protect them. I think Burke should be left alone. It can't be easy for him and the least we can do is give him his privacy.
Actually,I'm surprized there aren't more pictures of BR taken by the tabloids,now that he's older.
Could there have been some kind of restraining order put on the photographers until he is 21? Like Jackie Kennedy and her children. Is that possible?
Could there have been some kind of restraining order put on the photographers until he is 21? Like Jackie Kennedy and her children. Is that possible?
I was wondering who would have taken the recent picture of Burke...was it the tabloids?
I sometimes feel very guilty posting on these forums, especially if I say anything about Burke. I dont know if he killed his little sister or not, or played some part in it....but what if he didnt? You would have to assume Burke has accessed the internet and has seen what goes on in these forums....he must be mortified about what people say about him....not to mention what gets said about his Mum and Dad.
I still cant find the pic over at Jameson's but will keep looking.
I sometimes feel very guilty posting on these forums, especially if I say anything about Burke. I dont know if he killed his little sister or not, or played some part in it....but what if he didnt? You would have to assume Burke has accessed the internet and has seen what goes on in these forums....he must be mortified about what people say about him....not to mention what gets said about his Mum and Dad.
I still cant find the pic over at Jameson's but will keep looking.
Speaking of obsessions...Mr. Lin Wood, the Ramsey attorney made a statement saying that the Ramseys will no longer have anything to do with Jameson. She sold the Ramsey interrogation tapes to the Enquirer for $40,000. That was the last straw for the Ramseys.
I don't know if Susan Stine is a transexual and I often wondered what Glenn Stine sees in her. I too thought she had an unusual attraction towards Patsy...perhaps she does have a crush on her.
Burke is 18 years old and is no longer able to sue the tabloids for publishing his pictures. However: he can sue if they make claims that he is the murderer of his sister.
I don't know if Susan Stine is a transexual and I often wondered what Glenn Stine sees in her. I too thought she had an unusual attraction towards Patsy...perhaps she does have a crush on her.
Burke is 18 years old and is no longer able to sue the tabloids for publishing his pictures. However: he can sue if they make claims that he is the murderer of his sister.
Jayelles
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There is a transcript online somewhere. Let me try and find it for you. OR if you want to search yourself - do a Google search for "JonBenet's America" + transcript. I think that should find it for you.Rupert said:
Jayelles, thanks. Here it is:Jayelles said:
http://thewebsafe.tripod.com/09281998aedocumentary.htm
Now, if I have read it in its entirety, then I don't see where SS is weird. Sounds like a true friend with frank and honest opinion. Why all this weird butchy talk about SS? I must be missing something?
Jayelles
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Well... for starters, the written word is quite different from hearing the person say the words. The weirdness was in her demeanour. That documentary was my first introduction to the Ramsey case. It was aired in the Uk where I live and I knew nothing about the case until I saw that documentary. I was therefore unbiased. I thought Susan Stine was weird in that documentary.Rupert said:
Do you know anything about Susan Stine? If not, I suggest you read DOI - which will give you the Ramsey version of how she took over the running of their lives and decided who they saw and whom they did not see.
Stine may also be responsible for putting the ramsey in contact with their enemy #1 - jameson who gained their trust and confidence and then sold them out to the tabloids.
Finally, whilst "protecting" the ramseys and supporting them in the worst months/years of their lives, Susan Stine was sending fraudulent e-mails to their "worst enemies" pretending to be Chief Beckner sending his support. She did this for THREE YEARS before she was caught.
There is no doubt in my mind that Susan Stine has posted on the forums - as a BORG.
Not weird?
Nehemiah
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Wow, Jayelles, I didn't realize SS sent the emails for three years. Good grief, that's a long time for a "prank". Makes one wonder about the Patricia letters, after all.
Thanks, Jayelles. I am not either IDI or RDI for various reasons. You probably know them all. If IDI, then I think that the RN refers to the L&L note by "following our instructions to the letter" and thus outrightly from the start says that their daughter will NOT SEE 1997.Jayelles said:
It caught my attention when SS said that her emails to Beckner were a "sophomoric prank".
Leopold & Loeb were well known as pranksters during their sophomore years in Chicago (The Crime of the Century - Al Higdon).
What makes you think SS might have been posting as "BORG"?