CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 #10

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Jury selection to begin in trial of James Holmes in Colorado theater massacre

It will have been 914 days since authorities say Holmes burst into a packed suburban movie theater in the Denver suburb of Aurora, tossed a tear gas canister into the crowd and opened fire. The first panicked 911 call came at 12:38 a.m. on July 20, 2012.

The gunshots came less than a second apart, round after round, until 12 people were dead and more than 70 others injured, some permanently, in the barrage of shotgun and semiautomatic gunfire let loose during a screening of the Batman movie "The Dark Knight

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The Holmes trial is expected to last much of 2015; jury selection could take until late spring. And should the death sentence be imposed upon Holmes, now 27, legal experts predict two decades of appeals.

A staggering 9,000 summons were mailed to prospective jurors in Arapahoe County. It is a net so wide that in a county with about 500,000 eligible jurors, nearly 1 in 50 residents could receive notices.

But first a jury must be seated.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-james-holmes-20150119-story.html

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The Victims of James Holmes
 
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why we are here :rose:
and the 70 injured and those that love them :rose:

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Me too! Never heard anything about that...thought most evidence was destroyed?

And I guess I am confused as to what cottonweaver is referring to - are you teed off that JH didn't bring it up, or that the doc didn't bring it up?? This was not a school shooting, so not sure it would be a fair comparison. I admit I could be taking this whole post wrong though...

Missed that - I was rolling tortillas!

Lanza had compiled a spreadsheet of results of his research into school shootings and the number of fatalities specifically was an issue- getting the most "kills" . ( AFAIK a major motivation was to "out-do" Columbine. )

Sorry I wasn't clear. I mean that both psych should have made a ref to JH during questioning, re his poss research into other young male spree killers .
I appreciate JH is totally evasive and manipulative but there is a way they could have got him to spill that he was very aware of their pseudo-philos ( Columb) and how they are hero-worshipped ( by some sad teenage individuals- yup it gets the girls interested out there in weird world) and the ranking notions - total kills etc.)

Its not a school shooting but they share so many key features ( perps, MO, grudge/rage motivations etc) and it should have been a question - why not go to the Univ Col and do it at Neuroscience? Of course he would have used the cop-out " too personal" but maybe it was pure tactics & familiarity :- theatre = confined and dark, more fatalities!
 
Missed that - I was rolling tortillas!

Lanza had compiled a spreadsheet of results of his research into school shootings and the number of fatalities specifically was an issue- getting the most "kills" . ( AFAIK a major motivation was to "out-do" Columbine. )

Sorry I wasn't clear. I mean that both psych should have made a ref to JH during questioning, re his poss research into other young male spree killers .
I appreciate JH is totally evasive and manipulative but there is a way they could have got him to spill that he was very aware of their pseudo-philos ( Columb) and how they are hero-worshipped ( by some sad teenage individuals- yup it gets the girls interested out there in weird world) and the ranking notions - total kills etc.)

Its not a school shooting but they share so many key features ( perps, MO, grudge/rage motivations etc) and it should have been a question - why not go to the Univ Col and do it at Neuroscience? Of course he would have used the cop-out " too personal" but maybe it was pure tactics & familiarity :- theatre = confined and dark, more fatalities!

Well, I don't think that they would have made reference to Sandy Hook because it was after Aurora. That wouldn't have been a fair comparison to make, because JH couldn't have researched it.
 
I wonder if now that JH has spent the past three years dealing with the court system if he wishes he had committed suicide.
 
OOPS - Well at least I don't come across as an expert in school shootings!!!

I'll look for something on the spreadsheet though- I haven't dreamt that part.
 
OOPS - Well at least I don't come across as an expert in school shootings!!!

I'll look for something on the spreadsheet though- I haven't dreamt that part.

here u go
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...et-detailing-massacres-past-wanted-outdo.html

P.S. Have you read any of those Columbine ramblings and nihilistic theories written by the murderers? What's stranger is that some young people admire those writings. I do think this connects with JH wanting to "philosophise" and theorise his motivations, dressing them up to make them grander/more intellectual than they really were ie. feelings of rejection and disappointment.
 
Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 40s41 seconds ago
Dan King is taking up questioning Metzner on cross-exam. #theatershooting
 
Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 3m3 minutes ago
Brauchler: Why did he stop shooting? Metzner believes AR-15 jammed and JH couldn't clear it. #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Pros. is going through yes/no?’s which would indicate JH was insane. All answers are no - pointing to sanity

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH never told him anything about a master power

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH never told him anything about a master power
 
Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
Metzner on tossed psych exam: Holmes never said anything about "master power." (Key 2 see if code overrode rationality pre-#theatershooting)

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 54s55 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting defense, namely Dan King, starts Dr. Metzner cross examination by questioning his background. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Qi65EE
 
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with the website being down--we all went thru battles :happydance:

We are all winners! I was struggling to find this thread on Tapatalk.


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I wonder if now that JH has spent the past three years dealing with the court system if he wishes he had committed suicide.

You know I don't think he does--I think he is happy that Colorado will be taking care of him the rest of his life---no worries--PLUS the court case
 
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 42s43 seconds ago
#theatershooting

King says Dr doesn’t have much experience doing evals on people who have done mass murder

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 35s36 seconds ago
#theatershooting

King - It’s a rare event
 
You know I don't think he does--I think he is happy that Colorado will be taking care of him the rest of his life---no worries--PLUS the court case

This is sort of my sense as well. I think if he had truly strongly feared prison he would have killed himself at the theater that night. He spent so long planning this event... he probably wanted to stick around to see the outcome from it.
 
Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting def. cross: Metzner confirms he specializes in "corrections-related" psychology. Not clinical. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Qi65EE

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

king - It’s so rare there’s little to compare it to.
 
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