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Not much info yet-last seen wearing a spiderman suit..I think this is Australia? Please correct if I am wrong...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne.../story-fni0cx4q-1227056510408#social-comments

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-...leads-in-william-tyrell-disappearance/5747954

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Benaroon Drive where William went missing. So much thick forest .....
 
Bill Spedding, ‘person of interest’ in William Tyrrell case seeks bail
JUNE 17, 2015

Bill Spedding, a “person of interest’’ to the investigation into the disappearance of William Tyrrell, is the former brother-in-law of a convicted murderer and pedophile, a court has heard.

Mr Spedding, from Bonny Hills on the NSW mid-north coast, was arrested in April and charged with repeatedly *assaulting two young sisters in Sydney during 1987.

Bill Spedding, 'person of interest' in William Tyrrell case, seeks bail over historical sex abuse charges

William “Bill” Spedding, a “person of interest” in the investigation into toddler William Tyrrell’s disappearance, made a bail application in the New South Wales supreme court on Wednesday after being charged in April with sexually abusing two girls, aged three and six, in Sydney in 1987.

The offences were uncovered by detectives investigating the toddler’s disappearance on the NSW mid north coast in September.

Please continue here for William
 
Mr O’Brien told the court that the accusations which Spedding now faces have been previously investigated and Mr Spedding was cleared.

"The Crown case is not a strong one," Mr O'Brien.

Mr O'Brien said the allegations were made amid "a hothouse of suspicion" and "sinister overtones", and that there was "an atmosphere" of "coaching and tutoring" the young girls that Spedding was "a naughty man who did bad things."

The "tutoring and coaching" of what a normal mother would say to her children.....if that's a crime well I'm guilty too.



http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ey-john-hillsley/story-fni0cx12-1227402386747

But he wasn't cleared was he. At the time the case didn't make it to court due to the stress it would cause the young girls.
 
I wonder if O'Brien is talking about the allegations being made amid "a hothouse of suspicion" and "sinister overtones", being these allegations being brought up recently during WT investigation.
Mr O’Brien told the court that the accusations which Spedding now faces have been previously investigated and Mr Spedding was cleared.

"The Crown case is not a strong one," Mr O'Brien.

Mr O'Brien said the allegations were made amid "a hothouse of suspicion" and "sinister overtones", and that there was "an atmosphere" of "coaching and tutoring" the young girls that Spedding was "a naughty man who did bad things."

The "tutoring and coaching" of what a normal mother would say to her children.....if that's a crime well I'm guilty too.



http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ey-john-hillsley/story-fni0cx12-1227402386747
 
I am now reading this article in a different way. I always thought that the article indicated that there were more children involved in the police notes, now I think it is outlining what happened to the 2 victims but it is misleading, whether that is poor reporting of MSM or police, who can say?
April 24

In the course of obtaining victim statements police were made aware of further disturbing allegations of children being involved in witnessing or performing sex acts on each other, with another male adult present, or the giving of the victim by (Spedding) to another male adult associate for sexual purposes,” the police facts read.

http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...-appear-in-court/story-fns0kb1g-1227316450596
 
Except that they are not the ones who brought the allegations to light are they, it seems the mother of the children in BS and MS care did that, 2 1/2 years ago It was after WT went missing that the girls (women now) alerted police. I can't find the report now but it was in MSM

Dept of Family and Community Services investigated the allegations against BS in 1987. They referred them to police the court heard no action was taken.

O’Brien said he did not have a transcript of the original police interview with his client, which must exist. “We don’t even have the mother’s original complaint to investigators back in 1987,” he said.

Maybe it was not the mother that put in the original complaint to the police.
Maybe it was facs - Could they have been investigating due to the brothers involvement with girls and things were said about others?
imo

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...-seeks-bail-over-historical-sex-abuse-charges
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...-case-seeks-bail/story-e6frg6nf-1227402309568
 
hmmm technical... I could ring crimestoppers and make allegations against the FP in the WT case. They might be investigated and they might be cleared. Does that mean you are not officially clear until you stand trial and are found not guilty?
But he wasn't cleared was he. At the time the case didn't make it to court due to the stress it would cause the young girls.
 
hmmm technical... I could ring crimestoppers and make allegations against the FP in the WT case. They might be investigated and they might be cleared. Does that mean you are not officially clear until you stand trial and are found not guilty?

I understand what you are saying Frogwell the only difference between what you suggest and the BS case is there is documented medical evidence. I'm afraid in a case of child abuse / paedophilia I would believe the child first until the perpetrator was otherwise proven innocent.
I know that goes against innocent until proven guilty.
 
Mr O'Brien said that while medical evidence suggested the victims were abused in the first half 1987, it didn't show exactly when the abuse happened.

Mr O'Brien said one of the victims had attended Westmead Hospital and that an examination 'supported penetration but it doesn't show when penetration occurred'.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ated-child-rapist-murderer.html#ixzz3dJa1NGIQ
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Sorry to post that, but it helps with the questions about the medical records.
 
Whatever the outcome, two little innocent girls have probably had there lives ruined by whoever committed these vile acts, we can only hope they get closure . In saying that I'm married to a wonderful man who was sadistically abused by a teacher at a very young age. Even though this man was convicted and sent to jail ( only 4 years) for the graphic abuse of at least 7 very young students( I'm sure there were many more) it gives them a little closure but the scars are there forever xx
 
The tendered judgement also contains allegations of 'ongoing' child sexual abuse by Mr Spedding in Victoria.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ated-child-rapist-murderer.html#ixzz3dJIhT0QR

'While at hospital she nominated [Bill Spedding] as the offender,' Mr O'Brien quoted the judgement.

One of the girls said 'it is Bill'.
But Mr O'Brien said there had been a 'thorough police investigation' of Mr Spedding back in the late 1980s and he hadn't been charged.

The tendered judgement also contains allegations of 'ongoing' child sexual abuse by Mr Spedding in Victoria.

**Opposing bail, Rosa Sharma argued that the two young girls Spedding is accused of molesting 'were very clear that it was [Bill Spedding]'.

**Ms Sharma said the girls' mother 'saw bruising and a gaping hole in her genitals and th three-year-old said it was this applicant [Spedding] who has touched her down there'.
While Spedding's defence has offered to put up bail of $100,000 and for him to live with his wife and not do house calls where there might be children, Ms Sharma argued Spedding was 'facing full time custody in the latter half of his life' and the risk he would break bail conditions was to great.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ated-child-rapist-murderer.html#ixzz3dJIhT0QR
 
I understand what you are saying Frogwell the only difference between what you suggest and the BS case is there is documented medical evidence. I'm afraid in a case of child abuse / paedophilia I would believe the child first until the perpetrator was otherwise proven innocent.
I know that goes against innocent until proven guilty.
I agree there is documented evidence a crime took place but no evidence as to who did it.
 
How so?

Today's news makes me more convinced of Spedding's guilt

I do not think there could ever be a better defence in history then revealing the same children were living in the same house as a serial pedophile murderer who revealed in his court transcript that he had taken one of the same children's clothing for sexual gratification. Also proof that the medical exam of the children could only say a abuse within a 6 months period.
Not convinced completely as I realise this is just the defences version of events. Only thing still ringing in my ears is the sharing of victims claims by police so perhaps BS was a co offender. Now the pedophile link the police talk about makes sense. But through family not necessarily through behaviour. http://www.theguardian.com/australi...-seeks-bail-over-historical-sex-abuse-charges


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