Bosma Murder Trial 02.25.16 - Day 15

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Tim Bosma trial: Dellen Millard's bookkeeper returns to witness box
CBC News Posted: Feb 25, 2016



Jurors at the trial of the two men accused of murder in the death of Hamilton's Tim Bosma will hear more testimony Thursday from Dellen Millard's bookkeeper, Lisa Williams.

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On Wednesday, the jury heard, for the first time, the details of the Smich's arrest. Sgt. Stuart Oxley from Hamilton police testified "I grabbed Mr. Smich, placed him on the ground, put him under arrest for first-degree murder.

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Legal arguments will happen this morning from 10-11. Open court starts at 11 a.m.

While we wait, I'll share that I dreamed of DM last night. Toured his childhood home. Roped off with tour guides. Family photos everywhere. I need to get out more!

Adam Carter
Feb 25 2016 11:00 AM The jury is now back in. Lisa Williams' testimony is continuing.

Feb 25 2016 11:01 AM Williams says she "still does a little bit of work" for MillardAir and Millard properties, gathering paperwork for a chartered accountant. She's being paid hourly, doing about 10 hours a month.

Feb 25 2016 11:01 AM She says there "is no company there to make an income right now." The hangar has been sold, she says.

Feb 25 2016 11:03 AM Madeline Burns (Millard's mother) is still on the payroll. "I doesn't know personally what she does for the company other than I know she has control of the company," Williams says. Millard's mother is paid $5,000 a month, she says.

Feb 25 2016 11:04 AM Shane Schlatman stopped being paid by MillardAir in April 2015, she says.

Feb 25 2016 11:05 AM Williams says she still sees Madeleine Burns sometimes to talk business. The last time she saw Millard, she says, was Sept. 2014. He was arrested in 2013.

Feb 25 2016 11:05 AM "I think I visited him maybe six times," Williams says.

Feb 25 2016 11:09 AM Court now seeing text messages between Millard and Williams about payroll on screens.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
Lisa Williams is returning to the stand and the jury is being brought in at the Tim #Bosma murder trial.

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 5m5 minutes ago
The jury is now back in. Lisa Williams' testimony is continuing. #HamOnt #TimBosma #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 5m5 minutes ago
Jury is here and #Millard bookkeeper Lisa Williams back on the stand. Still does work for Millard Air. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
Williams says she still does some work for Millardair. Gathers paperwork for the chartered accountant. Paid hourly, works 10 hours/month.

Nicole Martin ‏@nmartinCHCH 4m4 minutes ago
Jury is in the courtroom. Lisa Williams is on the stand. She was the hired bookkeeper for MillardAir @CHCHNews

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 4m4 minutes ago
Williams says she "still does a little bit of work" for MillardAir and Millard properties. #HamOnt #TimBosma #Bosma

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 4m4 minutes ago
She's being paid hourly, doing about 10 hours a month. #HamOnt #TimBosma #Bosma

Nicole Martin ‏@nmartinCHCH 3m3 minutes ago
Williams says that she is one of two workers who are still paid by the MillardAir company @CHCHNews

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Hangar has sold, there is no income. She has done contract work for the company continuously. Only other person on payroll Madeleine Burns.

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 3m3 minutes ago
She says there "is no company there to make an income right now." The hangar has been sold, she says. #HamOnt #TimBosma #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Jury's back, Williams back on the stand. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Williams says the #Millard hangar sold, Millard Air has no physical structure. Dellen's mother Madeleine Burns still gets $5,000/mo. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Crown asks if she's still working for company. She wouldn't use word 'employed' but says still doing work/billing them yes. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
Lisa wiliams still works for millardair doing books. Prepares taxes. Says Co. Makes no $ @AM900CHML #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Crown asks if she's still working for Millardair. She wouldn't use word 'employed' but says still doing work/billing them yes. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Madeleine is Millard's mother. Paid $5,000/month. She doesn't know what she does for the business...Schlatman was paid until a year ago.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Business is in Madeleine's name. Williams last saw Millard in September 2014. She visited him 6 times after his arrest. #Bosma

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
The last time she saw Millard, Williams says, was Sept. 2014. He was arrested in 2013. #HamOnt #TimBosma #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Last #Millard Air employee, Shane Schlatman, lost job in Apr 2015 when hangar sold

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Madeleine Burns, Millard's mom, is only one left on payroll. She has control of company. She gets $5k gross a month. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 57s58 seconds ago
Williams tells jury she still works for MillardAir doing paperwork whenever Dellen Millard requests it and is paid by the hour

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 54s54 seconds ago
Williams last saw Dellen #Millard in Sept 2014. Saw him half dozen times in jail. Still sees his mom. #TimBosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 53s54 seconds ago
April 2015. Hangar is sold. Lisa Williams has visited him Dellen Millard 6 times in custody. @AM900CHML #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 49s50 seconds ago
Schlatman stopped being paid in April 2015, she says, when the hangar was sold. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 9m9 minutes ago
Jury is here and #Millard bookkeeper Lisa Williams back on the stand. Still does work for Millard Air. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 6m6 minutes ago
Williams says the #Millard hangar sold, Millard Air has no physical structure. Dellen's mother Madeleine Burns still gets $5,000/mo. #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
Crown asks if she's still working for Millardair. She wouldn't use word 'employed' but says still doing work/billing them yes. #Bosma

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 6m6 minutes ago
Millard's mother is still on the MillardAir payroll to the tune of $5K a month, Williams says. #HamOnt #TimBosma #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 5m5 minutes ago
The hangar has been sold, she says. No physical place for company to make money from. #Bosma

Susan ClairmontVerified account ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
Business is in Madeleine's name. Williams last saw Millard in September 2014. She visited him 6 times after his arrest. #Bosma

Would it be considered normal for someone in Williams' position to be visiting DM in jail 6 different times? And to still see his mom?

Nice pay check for doing nothing! And SS was paid up till April 2015?? Wonder what he was up to?!

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Adam Carter

Feb 25 2016 11:03 AM

Madeline Burns (Millard's mother) is still on the payroll. "I doesn't know personally what she does for the company other than I know she has control of the company," Williams says. Millard's mother is paid $5,000 a month, she says.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 38s38 seconds ago
She also told the crown she visited Dellen Millard 6 times in jail between his May 10 2013 arrest and the last time she saw him in sept 2014

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 28s28 seconds ago
Text messages between Millard and Williams about WSIB.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 21s22 seconds ago
Court seeing text messages btwn Millard and Williams, but the TV screen by media section I'm in is not working. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 17s17 seconds ago
Williams also still has a relationship with Madeline Burns, Millard's mother, who is still being paid $5000 per month by the company

Nicole Martin ‏@nmartinCHCH 16s16 seconds ago
Williams has gone to seen #Millard 6 times since his arrest. The court is about to see their text messages @CHCHNews

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes now
Jury being asked to step out again. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 36s37 seconds ago
There was a problem with the media's screen in courtroom, so we weren't able to see those texts. Fixed now, but jury now asked to step out.

Nicole Martin ‏@nmartinCHCH 14s15 seconds ago
The last time Williams saw Millard was Sept 2014. Williams and #Millard smile at each other while she's on the stand. @CHCHNews

Feb 25 2016 11:10 AM
These texts are from Feb 28, 2013. I'd like to tell you more about them, but the screen in front of reporters in the courtroom isn't working now for some reason.

Feb 25 2016 11:12 AM
Pillay says he "needs a moment" about the next message the court will be shown. The jury is being sent out.

Feb 25 2016 11:13 AM
Court now on a 15 minute recess.

Does anyone have Adam Carter's mobile blog link? TIA

Kamille said:

Does anyone have Adam Carter's mobile blog link? TIA

Click to expand...

http://mobile.scribblelive.com/Event/The_Tim_Bosma_trial_Feb_25?theme=1881

I can't pinpoint how I feel about SS being paid until April 2015.....

Feb 25 2016 11:30 AM
We're now back. Jury being recalled.

Feb 25 2016 11:34 AM
Court now seeing another set of text messages between Millard and Williams. They were sent on May 10. The first message reads is about tax filings and WSIB.

Feb 25 2016 11:35 AM
Millard's response refers to MillardAir and Millard Properties.

Feb 25 2016 11:36 AM
Moodie now asking about the financial status of the company.

One might want to conclude that he was still in the good books with the boss....JMO.