Resolved ID - Mountain Home, Two children's skeletal remains in badger hole, Apr'17 - ANCIENT

hollye · Apr 18, 2017

The Elmore County Sheriffs Office was notified Saturday of the discovery of skeletal remains of what appears to be a young child between the ages of one and five years old by Idaho Fish and Game officers just north of Mountain Home. The remains were partially uncovered inside a badger hole.

It is clear by the condition of the remains that they have been buried for a considerable amount of time. There were no fibrous materials such as clothing located with the remains.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2017/...etween-1-5-years-discovered-in-elmore-county/

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jnblsm · Apr 18, 2017

Thank you for starting this thread!
I started to message Bessie last night about re-opening the thread I think we're thinking about, but I didn't finish it.

Are you thinking it's DKj, too?

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cvaldez1975 · Apr 18, 2017

my first thought was, how far was that from Deorr....

jnblsm said:
Thank you for starting this thread!
I started to message Bessie last night about re-opening the thread I think we're thinking about, but I didn't finish it.

Are you thinking it's DKj, too?

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PowMom01 · Apr 18, 2017

4 hours from Leadore ID, 250 miles per google.

hollye · Apr 18, 2017

Based on this, I don't think it is DeOrr.

The information we have today indicates the body has been there for quite some time. It appears to have been buried longer than two to five years.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2017/...pear-to-have-been-buried-for-quite-some-time/

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carbuff · Apr 18, 2017

I posted this on DeOrr's thread:

carbuff said:
Looking at kids missing in that area and age range. Interestingly, except for April Bowdish who went missing about the same time as DeOrr, they're all boys.

Two boys missing from the Boise area in the 1980's, which is a bit longer than the time frame estimated:

Curtis Fair, missing from Nampa ID in 1980: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fair_curtis.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/130dmid.html

Jason Cannon, missing from Boise in 1983. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cannon_jason.html
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2079/2/
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/130dmid.html

Interestingly, they're both age 2 and both blond and cute like DeOrr.

Ruben Felix disappeared in 1997 so he fits the time frame better. He disappeared from Shoshone, ID, near Twin Falls, so also a geographic possibility.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/3886/3/

There's also Richard Barnett, missing from Grangeville in 1982, but that's several hours north so less likely. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2070/1/

Noexcuse · Apr 18, 2017

AzPistonsGirl · Apr 18, 2017

Noexcuse said:
Here is two little boys from Idaho that have been missing a long time.
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/274dmid.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1884dmid.html

wow, Ruben Felix... from what little I read in a few links, this could be him IMO. Regardless, it is someone's someone. Sad...

carbuff · Apr 18, 2017

Yeah, I thought Felix was by far the most likely.

jnblsm · Apr 19, 2017

Reading about all of them together, at once, is really sad.
One is bad enough.

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JerseyGirl · Apr 19, 2017

Despite social media speculation that the remains could belong to DeOrr Kunz Jr., it appears the newly discovered bones were buried about 15 to 20 years ago.

http://idahostatejournal.com/news/l...cle_4443bf45-5ebc-59cc-bf8c-8f97678960cb.html

cvaldez1975 · Apr 19, 2017

that does fit with the felix case....

JerseyGirl said:
Despite social media speculation that the remains could belong to DeOrr Kunz Jr., it appears the newly discovered bones were buried about 15 to 20 years ago.

http://idahostatejournal.com/news/l...cle_4443bf45-5ebc-59cc-bf8c-8f97678960cb.html

Otterly · Apr 19, 2017

cvaldez1975 said:
that does fit with the felix case....

It definitely does fit. Authorities have to be looking at him at this stage with the 15-20 year age range.

carbuff · Apr 19, 2017

Article from KSL: https://www.ksl.com/?sid=43913936&nid=1418

Hollinshead says there are no indications of the gender of the remains, but anthropologists will start working today to determine how old the child was when he or she died.

According to the Smithsonian Natural Museum of Natural History, skeletal remains can be good age markers because teeth and bones mature at fairly predictable and documented rates.

Teeth are the most accurate age indicators for toddlers and individuals up to the age of 21. Like many other mammals, humans have two sets of teeth – “baby” teeth and permanent teeth.

Hollinshead says once the age is determined, officials will work to see how long the remains have been buried.

MOTORUNNER · Apr 20, 2017

Wow 15-20 years, that's so sad. Sometimes I sit and think about all the bodies that are possibly out there, and we may never find them :nerves:

ReadySet · Apr 24, 2017

BOISE, Idaho (KBOI) — The Elmore County Sheriff's Office says that they have determined that the human remains found near Hot Creek Road over a week ago are actually two sets of human bones.
The sheriff's office says the remains appear to be of two children, one possibly three to five years old, and a second set belonging to a child possibly four to nine years old. The two sets were buried on top of one another.

http://kboi2.com/news/local/sheriff-elmore-county-burial-site-contains-another-set-of-remains

MsFacetious · Apr 25, 2017

So.... that kinda eliminates Ruben right? He doesn't have a missing sibling?
I'm thinking the most reasonable explanation is Oregon Trail. Unless there is one I'm missing? I know there are a couple of sibling groups missing but wow...

MsFacetious · Apr 25, 2017

Are there any missing sibling pairs or groups in the surrounding states?
The Skelton boys are from Michigan and the Hoggle kids are Maryland. I'm drawing a blank on any that might fit.
Never mind how strange of a case it would be.

Maybe it's two different abductions with the same burial site? Similar to Kara and Jessica?

katydid23 · Apr 25, 2017

Oh My....I have no clue right now wow :rose: :rose:

cvaldez1975 · Apr 25, 2017

Wasn't Robert Evans in Idaho?

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