IN - IMAGE discussion re Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi

[tlcya]

This is a place to discuss the image(s) released by ISP in this case. More specifically THESE IMAGES

• http://www.in.gov/isp/delphi.htm

• https://local.nixle.com/alert/5852022/

• https://local.nixle.com/alert/5854983/

and various enhancement techniques that are being used by members to try to get a better idea of the physical characteristics and apparel of the unidentified "bridge guy" BG, who police have stated is a suspect in the murders.

NOTE: Member michael.gartley is a Verified Expert in Imaging Science

Discussion of other aspects of the case should be contained to current general discussion thread.

This is meant to provide a place for those wishing to focus on the image(s) released by LE of that unidentified suspect.
It's pretty simple - If you are not interested in discussing the images or various techniques being used to try to glean more info from them this is NOT the thread for you.

to quote beach on this subject:

it's all about perception. Give each photo as much weight as you see fit

This thread is now open for discussion.

[shifferbrainz]

I see a full head of bushy hair. No hat. a very distinguishable , thick, full head of hair. It looks to be a cowlick or center part in the top center of his head, bangs combed forward. Could even be a wig I guess.

[otto]

Nobody here can bear the answer. (I meant showing you BG's face with two of his right halfs in an image composition.) And now .......

Everyone's face is asymmetrical, so creating an image from two right halves or two left halves results in an image that no longer resembles the original.

[Shiressleuth]

Everyone's face is asymmetrical, so creating an image from two right halves or two left halves results in an image that no longer resembles the original.

Its better than what we had because the left side of his face (his left) is completely in shadow. A full symmetrical face is better than half a face and a lot of work goes into these.
Are we able to talk about other stuff on here DYK while main thread is closed or do we just wait for it to open?

[Lilowlet]

I see hair, I see a hat sometimes, I can't make out the white rope/goggles/poodle. Imo always I think I see hands in pockets two?

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[Jax49]

Inverted view of both stills, originally posted by Breakingbarriers in thread 8.

It appears to show a hoodie up in both pics (to my eyes). Thoughts?

[shifferbrainz]

Inverted with other distortion added. You can see a face in the originals, the "inverted" clearly covers the face. ^^^ added photoshop items covering face so I discount this one.

[LaneGirl]

I agree it looks like a full head of hair. The collar stops at half the hair on the left side as you look at it that's why I'm not thinking hoodie.

ETA - The right side also looks like it could be a hat or a bowl type hair cut because the hair goes in and you see sideburn.

[ImnoSherlock]

That main thread shuts down a lot.What was that other one for the girl in Evansville?

[Jax49]

Inverted with other distortion added. You can see a face in the originals, the "inverted" clearly covers the face. ^^^ added photoshop items covering face so I discount this one.

Looks the same when I do it without making any other changes. That is, the face is dark when colors are inverted using Paint. moo

ETA: Hopefully when our experts roll in they can correct me, as necessary. I know I don't know anything about this subject...

[J Lee]

Inverted view of both stills, originally posted by Breakingbarriers in thread 8.

It appears to show a hoodie up in both pics (to my eyes). Thoughts?

Definitely looks like BG is wearing a hoodie that is up on the head. In the left image there may be a handgun visible.

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[shifferbrainz]

I see facial features in the non inverted image, however the inverted image shows something completely covering the face.

Mosquito net? Rubber mask?

[Confusion]

The one thing I have noticed in most of the enhanced closeups is that he does appear to be looking directly at LG. He may not have realized that she was recording him, but he did seem to be showing some interest. I'm guessing that she couldn't see where his eyes were looking from that distance, so I don't think that's what caught her attention and made her start recording, but if they had met up earlier and he was eyeing her up, it might set off a warning for her when he started approaching them on the bridge later. MOO
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[LaneGirl]

I see facial features in the non inverted image, however the inverted image shows something completely covering the face.

Mosquito net? Rubber mask?

To me the inverted image is taking the darkened areas and blurring them together giving the appearance of a hoodie and facial covering to me. I still see in the non inverted image a part in the hair which leads me to agree that he wasn't looking directly but down a little.

[J Lee]

I see facial features in the non inverted image, however the inverted image shows something completely covering the face.

Mosquito net? Rubber mask?

If his face was disguised, it could have been pantyhose.

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