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    Quote Originally Posted by jessie View Post
    Thanks ZaZara for that video.

    Anyone else notice that the only member of the public that responded to "What's happened" was the jihadist ?? !!

    Other members of the public couldn't have been aware exactly what had occurred at that time, looks like they were leaving the market in confusion by the rear entrance.
    Usually in these situations, people will quickly say something like leave, terrible accident, get out of the way, terror attack ect when asked " what is happening"?.
    Cannot help but wonder if there was something about the woman's appearance or demeanor that people wished to avoid altogether, something that appealed perhaps to the terrorist?
    speculation, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotr View Post
    Usually in these situations, people will quickly say something like leave, terrible accident, get out of the way, terror attack ect when asked " what is happening"?.
    Cannot help but wonder if there was something about the woman's appearance or demeanor that people wished to avoid altogether, something that appealed perhaps to the terrorist?
    speculation, imo.


    Very interesting and astute observation dotr.
    The pure and simple truth is rarely pure, and never simple - Oscar Wilde

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotr View Post
    Usually in these situations, people will quickly say something like leave, terrible accident, get out of the way, terror attack ect when asked " what is happening"?.
    Cannot help but wonder if there was something about the woman's appearance or demeanor that people wished to avoid altogether, something that appealed perhaps to the terrorist?
    speculation, imo.
    Quote Originally Posted by jessie View Post
    Very interesting and astute observation dotr.

    I have to admit that she drove me mad in those 45 seconds before the jihadist appeared with her endless what's happening? That voice!
    IMHO the people leaving the building are clearly in shock, some are crying, someone is carrying a child, they are running, they want to get far away from the area .... I can see that in the video, why doesn't she IRL? No one is interested in her, in the first 10 seconds someone even seems to wave her off. And still she does not get the message that this-is-not-about-her.

    But I guess we should be thankful for the video that she made. The jihadist is walking there unperturbed, as if murdering people is all in a days work. Which I suppose it was for him and his brothers in the faith. He was on his way to his next murder, that of the man whose car he stole.
    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity ~ Hanlon's Razor

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    The mother of Julian Cadman, the seven-year-old boy killed in the Barcelona terror attack, has revealed her ongoing grief for the little boy who never got to grow up.
    Jumarie Cadman, who was badly injured in the August attack, told The Daily Telegraph she still struggles to understand why she lived and her son did not.
    'I just want Julian back, I don't know why I survived and he didn't,' she said.

    Continued

    She recalls the moment she lost her son vividly, telling The Daily Telegraph she had just bought her son a toy after what she described as a 'lovely' day.

    Moments later, as they left the store, his hand was pulled from hers and he was swept away in the attack.

    'I don't sleep, I miss him every hour,' she said.

    'I loved being a mum, but it's all gone.'

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4yQ63jjYH

    It is absolutely heartbreaking.
    Two innocent teenagers Abigail Williams and Liberty German were murdered just over a year ago in Delphi, Indiana. If you know the man who could be responsible please call the tip line. There is a reward of $250,000 - Tel- 844.459.5786 or email: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com

    May this be the year there is justice for Abigail and Liberty and William Tyrrell and Jessica Heeringa are found.

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    STUDY REVEALS THAT JIHADISTS PLANNED A FAR LARGER AND MORE CATASTROPHIC ATTACK, POSSIBLY ON THE EIFFEL TOWER

    NYT
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/24/w...na-attack.html


    In the weeks before they carried out an attack in the Spanish city of Barcelona last summer, a cell of jihadists inspired by the Islamic State traveled repeatedly to France, where they bought a camera and recorded footage of the Eiffel Tower.

    That video, as well as the stunning quantity of precursor chemicals used to make explosives which were recovered from the safe house they used, has led experts to conclude that the terrorists were plotting something much larger and more catastrophic. The materials they left behind suggest that their plan involved packing vans with explosives and attacking targets not just in Spain, where the group killed 16 people and injured 140 others in August, but also possibly in France.

    “The existing evidence indicates the terrorist cell had planned a far more ambitious and potentially more deadly operation,” Fernando Reinares and Carola García-Calvo of the Program on Global Terrorism at the Elcano Royal Institute in Madrid wrote in a study published on Wednesday.

    “Considering the lethal resources assembled by the terrorists and their lethal intent, the death toll could have reached hundreds had they not accidentally blown up their bomb factory,” said the report, which appeared in the CTC Sentinel, the publication of the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point. It is based on interviews with investigators, a review of court proceedings and an analysis of videos, images and other materials recovered at investigation scenes.


    BBM
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    "SPANIARDS, YOU ARE GOING TO SUFFER;" THE INSIDE STORY OF THE AUGUST 2017 ATTACKS IN BARCELONA AND CAMBRILS


    Combating Terrorism Center at West Point
    https://ctc.usma.edu/spaniards-going...lona-cambrils/

    The terrorists were waiting on all 200 to 250 kilograms of TATP to be prepared. The two vans were rented for seven days, starting August 16.


    Investigators believe the cell’s original targets were in Barcelona but possibly elsewhere, too. Considering the lethal resources assembled by the terrorists and their lethal intent, the death toll could have reached hundreds had they not accidently blow up their bomb factory in Alcanar. There were media reports that a suspect had revealed in court that the Sagrada Familia church in Barcelona was among the targets. In reality, the judicial declaration in question from the cell member surviving the Alcanar blast was vague on this point, referring to “monuments and churches, such as the Sagrada Familia” as targets. The individual in question was not suspected to be a senior member of the cell and did not apparently have knowledge of specific targets. Nevertheless, the Sagrada Familia was one of the locations—marked by means of Google maps searches—that was found in a cellular phone used by members of the cell, in addition to the Nou Camp, the soccer stadium of Barcelona Football Club.

    To get a sense of the potential devastation such a large amount of high explosives could have caused, it is worth noting that the two TATP suitcase bombs that were detonated by Islamic State suicide bombers at Brussels airport likely weighed under 20 kilograms each. Two vans each loaded with over 100 kilograms of high explosives had the potential to inflict significant structural damage in buildings and/or cause very high casualties in crowded outdoor urban areas.


    BBM


    Complete report at link


    Due to the unprecedented levels of jihadi mobilization experienced over the past six years in Spain and Western Europe as a whole, more terrorist incidents including of the kind both initially envisioned and carried out by the Ripoll cell are likely to be repeated in the country and across the European Union. What stood out about the Ripoll cell, however—in addition to being formed by apparently well-integrated, second-generation young Muslims and being led by an imam who had been part of the jihadi scene for more than a decade—was its size. It shows that even in the wake of the Paris and Brussels attacks, which were carried out by attack groups of comparable size, a large terrorist cell can still plan ambitious attacks without being detected. It also illustrates that jihadis in Europe continue to want to plot bomb attacks, including with difficult-to-make TATP, but have a range of lower-tech ways to otherwise create carnage. A terrorist cell of 10 can, after all, carry out 10 vehicle-ramming attacks.
    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity ~ Hanlon's Razor

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