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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #82


    Police ID bodies of Indiana girls

    ISP page dedicated to the investigation

    Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at (844) 459-5786.

    Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at
    (800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County Sheriff’s Department at (765) 564-2413.

    Information can also be emailed to
    Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com

    video of press conference of 02/22/17: https://www.facebook.com/NewsCenter1...4728963476130/

    Audio loop http://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_male_voice_loop.mp3

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    RULES OF THIS DISCUSSION
    DO NOT post photos of random individuals (including persons featured in MSM articles about other area crimes) to compare to the images of unidentified suspect on the bridge.


    IF YOU WANT TO POST ABOUT A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER YOU MUST GET PERMISSION FIRST. Please send a PM to a moderator to gain that permission.

    Do not sleuth family, PERIOD. This includes previous public records which have nothing to do with this case. They are victims here. Plain and simple.


    4) If you feel you have a tip by all means phone it in. Do NOT discuss your tip here. Contact the authorities and give them time to follow your lead.

    Police unveil composite sketch of Delphi double homicide suspect


    MOST RECENT:

    ISP presser of 10/3/17
    The Indiana State Police can share, that thus far, there has been no information developed to specifically include or exclude Daniel Nations as a suspect in the Delphi homicides. Both state police detectives returned to Indiana late afternoon of October 2nd and will continue to review information gathered over the course of their visit to El Paso County, Colorado

    Could Daniel Nations, 32, get angry enough to pull a hatchet on people he felt offended him, as his arrest charges allege? "Possibly," his wife, Katelyn Nations, 30, told The Gazette. "In a fit of rage, yes."

    DO NOT SLEUTH DN's friends, family, former neighbors, employers, etc. Discuss what is available about DN via media and LE.
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    Hey Everyone,

    Abby and Libby's thread is open.

    From now on we are going to stick to our rules and discuss only those suspects or POI"s that have been in the mainstream media.

    No more random sketches. Please do not even ask.

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    in case you need a refresher course

    As Monty Python would say "And now for something completely different".

    I need a favor from someone who knows this case.

    If you could please post a quick update on Abby and Libby’s case I would really appreciate it.

    Most of us can’t follow this case like some of you so we are woefully behind.

    More than one poster can post an update. That’s great.

    Consider things like:

    *What happened with Daniel Nations? Is he still a possible suspect?
    *What is the latest from law enforcement?
    *What is the latest from the girl’s loved ones?

    Something along those lines would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you,
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregjrichards View Post
    I’m really glad the case was on Megyn’s show. Here is a link if you missed it - https://www.today.com/video/families...-1137315395635
    Me too, gregjrichards. Thank you for your continued updates. Hoping for a 2018 with many answers to stop this man.
    https://www.today.com/video/families...-1137315395635

    At about 13 minutes Ms. Kelly mentions (paraphrased)
    NBC affiliate WTHR reports that 'the search has been extended by the FBI into South Eastern Tennessee'

    Police Superintendent Doug Carter is tracking with what is going on in Tennessee and he considers this a nationwide search.



    Attachment 128860 Southeastern Tenn.
    from here

    Interesting, (my brief notes) that LE says no witness saw him, and that the body type and posture of that man on that bridge on that day should tell somebody who knows him who he is, nationwide. That it could be somebody who did this before and do it again because of the alacrity of the crime. So this freak may have covered a lot of ground over time, but honed in on Delphi for some reason.

    He may have tried and failed at abductions before or since farther away?
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    This is a video explaining and clarifying events of yesterday, and has a brief interview with Supt Doug Carter when he landed in Indy after the MK interview.
    https://www.wthr.com/article/tenness...een-seen-there

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    Hi Everyone,

    Thought it best to start a new thread.

    A reminder in case you missed my post above, no more random sketches or pictures of persons who are not POI's.

    Again if someone could please post a quick update for those who may be new to the case I would really appreciate it.

    Thanks and carry on, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkdj View Post
    If so they could rule people out.
    I asked Sheriff Leazenby if investigators thought the killer was an outsider or living among them. "We've discussed that. From the lay of the land, so to say, where this occurred, it would almost have to be someone who is originally from this area and knew how things were laid out, or it's someone who came to our area, if you will, and studied it. For it to be an outsider, yes it's possible, but they sure had to put a lot of work to putting something into this."

    Everyone is pleading that anyone, even with the smallest tip, should call police. It could be the break needed to solve this unthinkable crime, and with DNA evidence from the scene, Sheriff Leazenby thinks the case will be solved. "I wish I could say tomorrow. Obviously I can't, but I feel like somewhere down the line we will get justice for these girls."

    http://www.wndu.com/content/news/Uns...473950973.html
    Two innocent teenagers Abigail Williams and Liberty German were murdered just over a year ago in Delphi, Indiana. If you know who the man who could be responsible pleasecall the tip line. There is a reward of $250,000 - Tel- 844.459.5786 or email: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com

    May this be the year there is justice for Abigail and Liberty and William Tyrrell and Jessica Heeringa are found.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=QO9Q47poU8w

    One year anniversary of Delphi murders

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    Quote Originally Posted by kizzykat View Post
    Some transcript snippets:

    7:39 mark:
    Supt Carter: In all of my career I don't ever remember having the photograph of the person we believe is responsible. I don't ever remember having the voice of a person that we think is responsible. Or having a sketch of the individual that we believe is responsible. So -if, if all of you closed your eyes for just a moment and you thought of a family member but you didn't think of them from the neck up - you would know how they stand, and the clothes they wore and their posture. You would know that voice. I would know it if was my father, just like you would know it if it was yours. Somebody out there knows who this person is. And I'm, fortunately, I'm not gonna say unfortunately, fortunately we have such a relationship with you that you've kept this front and center. Because we couldn't do it. We just (shaking head), we couldn't do it. But you guys are. I don't think there's multiple pieces to the puzzle, ladies and gentlemen, I think there's one piece, and it's having one individual with the strength to say 'that was my brother' or 'that's my dad' or 'that's my cousin' or 'that's my neighbor, it's my coworker'. That's all we need. And I think we're one piece away. One piece.

    9:44
    Male reporter: Daniel Nations has been called a person of interest. What does that mean to the Indiana State Police when you say someone is a person of interest?
    Supt Carter: Well, I, I, I think the inverse to that statement is until there's somebody arrested we're interested in almost everybody. But we uh, we, we, as you all know, we went out to Colorado and we spent a little bit of time with him. And he's not a person that we uh, care a whole lot about at this moment in time. And that's all I'll say about Daniel Nations.

    Approx 12:25
    Alexis McAdams: You have the killer's voice, you have his picture, you have a detailed sketch, that's more information than a lot of cases that you guys have had in the past and solved. One year later you have all that information, (inaudible & brief, can't make out what she asks).
    Supt Carter: Hmmph. Answer the question for me. I wish I could answer it. I wish I could answer it. I've said, um, locally, statewide and even nationally that, that sometimes our citizenry doesn't trust us. And I acknowledge that and recognize that, that we are not without sin. I know that. And I would just like to think that the person that might know about this maybe doesn't trust us and doesn't want to tell us. That they don't think we can protect them. Oh yeah, we can. Yeah we can. And we've got to work to, to regain that community's trust. These communities trust. And I think that we're getting there. Um, that's not a million dollar question, that's a billion dollar question. And I'd give my life to be able to answer it.
    Male Reporter: Have you been able to clear anybody in this case?
    Supt Carter: Um, I think that the people that we have talked to at this point in time, we feel confident that uh, there was no involvement.
    Female reporter: (inaudible) Why haven't you released more of the video, to give an idea of the gait and how he walked, and I think the comment was you weren't comfortable at that time, you weren't at that point of doing that. One year in, are you now considering doing this to give us more to work with?
    Supt Carter: No. We are not. We think that we've released enough now that um, if there's a possibility of identifying the killer based on that photograph we'll be able to do that. And that's all I can say about the video and audio that we have.

    14:19
    Female reporter: Can you tell me more about this suspect (muffled) do you believe he was a transient, is he in the state, is he anywhere in this country?
    Supt Carter: Billion dollar question. I don't know.

    (Stopping there for now.)
    http://www.wlfi.com/content/news/LIV...473948353.html
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    https://youtu.be/HqX9OHVYeLc?t=821

    Repeat from previous thread - Today's PC, starting where Carter is speaking about people who have been interviewed not being involved.
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    What if the person or persons who gave the description of BG to the police sketch artist were wrong in someway? Maybe something they didn't get a good look at say of BG's face, mole, birthmark, hair was more curled something, wouldn't that affect someone being able to not recognizing him? Someone might say that's not so and so because his hair is curly or whatever? JMO
    https://www.quora.com/How-do-sketch-...s-of-criminals


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    It's hard to recall features etc to a police artist from a short glance etc.
    One story of someone who had to do it and how it was done>>https://www.huffingtonpost.com/quora...b_8150090.html

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    Multiple new subpoenas in the last month. So some people are still being investigated.

    The new prosecutor is reviewing everything, which is encouraging

    Was the "not blue eyes" wrong?

    Has the guy seen by DG been identified? I thought only BG is unidentified?

    How did BG get there and depart?

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    I still strongly believe that BG has local ties and either lived there at one time or spent a lot of time there, but I am having trouble reconciling that with the idea of him being a serial killer. I may back off the SK idea for now and say, while not a SK, at least a heavily habitual offender. When he IS discovered, I think many crimes will be traced back to him, though they may not have all been associated with him at the time.
    Find Brooke
    AGE: 19 HEIGHT: 5'1" WEIGHT: 110 lbs
    * Disappeared from a friend's house in Berea, Kentucky in June, 2013
    * Last text to a friend stated "I'm scared"
    * No other clues have been uncovered
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ea-22-Jun-2013

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    I feel bad by saying this but I haven't heard much mention lately of the $200,000 + reward being offered for the arrest and conviction of this case. IMO it needs to be rebroadcast to the public AGAIN. Nationwide like in the beginning. Pictures, audio haven't worked thus far. Sadly some people will not turn someone in because it's the right thing to do. People are motivated by money.

    Sure can't hurt anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spistol View Post
    I feel bad by saying this but I haven't heard much mention lately of the $200,000 + reward being offered for the arrest and conviction of this case. IMO it needs to be rebroadcast to the public AGAIN. Nationwide like in the beginning. Pictures, audio haven't worked thus far. Sadly some people will not turn someone in because it's the right thing to do. People are motivated by money.

    Sure can't hurt anything.

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    Money DOES talk.

    Seems odd that they've stopped pushing this.
    Find Brooke
    AGE: 19 HEIGHT: 5'1" WEIGHT: 110 lbs
    * Disappeared from a friend's house in Berea, Kentucky in June, 2013
    * Last text to a friend stated "I'm scared"
    * No other clues have been uncovered
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ea-22-Jun-2013

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