Resolved PA - Philadelphia Co, WhtFem UP17475, 30-50, decedent drug at Frankford Ave, Dec'17 - namus removed

Romulus · Feb 17, 2018

NamUs UP 17475

https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/17475

Unidentified Body/Remains (White Female)
Found December 10, 2017 in Philadelphia County, PA
Body Condition: Recognizable face
Probable year of death: 2017
Estimated postmortem interval: minutes

Vital Statistics
Estimated age: 30-50 (Adult - Pre-40)
Approximate Height: 60 estimate
Approximate Weight: 83 estimate
Hair Color: black
Eye Color: Unknown
Scars and marks: nothing

Clothing & Accessories
Clothing: Multiple layers; black yoga pants, gray sweatpants; black coat, blue coat, black shirt
Jewerly: nothing
Footwear: Pink/black sneakers with blue laces
Accessories: nothing

Identifiers
Fingerprints: Fingerprint information is available
Dentals: Dental information / charting is not available
DNA: Sample submitted-tests not complete

Case History: Decedent drug by vehicle on Frankford Ave in Kensington section of Philadelphia

Triss · Feb 17, 2018

she looks very young in that reconstruction. I wonder how accurate it is.

eucalyptuz · Feb 17, 2018

Here is some press coverage:
http://www.fox29.com/news/police-woman-pushed-from-truck-run-over-in-kensington

Philadelphia police are on the hunt for the driver of the silver Ford F-150 that is missing a tailgate. Police say the driver pushed a woman out of the truck on the 3000 block of Frankford Avenue.

After she was pushed out of the truck, the woman was killed after being struck by a Dodge Challenger that was traveling behind the truck.

More at link

coffeeandacig · Feb 17, 2018

This lady would be my first guess. I know 11 years is a long time, but...
Kristin Leonetti 23 when reported missing in 2006. (34 y/o) 4' 11" 100 lbs. Black hair/Brown eyes

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10083/2
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3515dfpa.html

Interesting bit from this news article...

http://www.delcotimes.com/article/DC/20080914/NEWS/309149961

"She said she gave them her boyfriend's license plate number. He lived at several places and used to hang out at Front and York streets in the Kensington section of Philadelphia, she said.
One city officer had known Kristin and arrested her once for her own protection, he said. She was known to frequent Front and York streets to get drugs.
Known as "Little Niki" to people at the St. Francis Inn shelter on Kensington Avenue in Philadelphia,."

Front and York is only about 1 1/2 miles from the place where the UID was killed.

houndpounder · Feb 17, 2018

coffeeandacig said:
This lady would be my first guess. I know 11 years is a long time, but...
Kristin Leonetti 23 when reported missing in 2006. (34 y/o) 4' 11" 100 lbs. Black hair/Brown eyes

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10083/2
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3515dfpa.html

Interesting bit from this news article...
http://www.delcotimes.com/article/DC/20080914/NEWS/309149961

"She said she gave them her boyfriend's license plate number. He lived at several places and used to hang out at Front and York streets in the Kensington section of Philadelphia, she said.
One city officer had known Kristin and arrested her once for her own protection, he said. She was known to frequent Front and York streets to get drugs.
Known as "Little Niki" to people at the St. Francis Inn shelter on Kensington Avenue in Philadelphia,."

Front and York is only about 1 1/2 miles from the place where the UID was killed.

Perfect find coffee!

MarziPanda · Feb 17, 2018

I'm not sure I like the reconstruction. The hair isn't the right colour (listed as black, drawn as brown) and she looks too young. She has no eye colour listed, even though there's no decomposition (as she had only just died)?
83lbs is thin even for a woman who's only 5 feet tall. Not saying it's wrong (especially if she was transient and hitchhiking) just an observation.

creepedout · Feb 17, 2018

If she let her hair grow out and lost some weight, I can't help but see resemblance in Tiffany Brewster, who went missing from Newark only a week and a half earlier:

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/32593/

Bit of hope · Feb 18, 2018

creepedout said:
If she let her hair grow out and lost some weight, I can't help but see resemblance in Tiffany Brewster, who went missing from Newark only a week and a half earlier:

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/32593/

Only Tiffany has a lot of tattoos.

creepedout · Feb 18, 2018

Bit of hope said:
Only Tiffany has a lot of tattoos.

Ah - I see that now in Namus. I don't think the lost and found site yesterday had scraped that info yet - or I just could have missed it.

BethAnn777 · Feb 18, 2018

Jenna Van Gelderen?
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/39943/0/

coffeeandacig · Feb 19, 2018

BethAnn777 said:
Jenna Van Gelderen?
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/39943/0/

Looks good to me. I'm not sure about the Star of David tattoo though, since UID doesn't have any listed. I'd go ahead and submit her, since it's only one small tattoo and might have been destroyed by road rash.

PS...Two noticeable moles on the reconstruction. I made them darker, because they're not apparent until zoom in.

Bit of hope · Feb 19, 2018

coffeeandacig said:
Looks good to me. I'm not sure about the Star of David tattoo though, since UID doesn't have any listed. I'd go ahead and submit her, since it's only one small tattoo and might have been destroyed by road rash.

PS...Two noticeable moles on the reconstruction. I made them darker, because they're not apparent until zoom in.

I sure hope this is not Jenna. I never saw moles on her face on pictures and I think they would have mentioned her tattoo. I also think that the reconstruction is far to young. considering the age range mentioned for this UID. Thanks for making the moles more visible. I hadn't noticed them before. They are good markers.

BethAnn777 · Feb 19, 2018

Maybe Amy Hambrick?
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/41220/3/

Gardener1850 · Feb 20, 2018

Margo Tornetta?
https://bucks.crimewatchpa.com/warminstertwppd/34644/post/missing-endangered-person

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...Township-6-Sept-2017&highlight=Margo+Tornetta

(if anyone thinks this could be a good match and wants to submit go ahead, I'm only suggesting here, thanks)

eucalyptuz · Feb 20, 2018

This coverage has more details about the silver Ford F-150:
Missing tail gate
Ladder racks
Sticker on back
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/new...Being-Pushed-Out-of-Moving-Car-463185073.html

This is such a depressing story...a woman is pushed out of a car, witnesses say she tried to hang on for a bit, fell and then was hit by the second car. Somebody must recognize that vehicle from that description, and the second vehicle must be in cahoots...the whole thing is sickening

I think her height/weight stats are probably accurate as she was pronounced dead at the scene...this and the circumstances of her death might indicate a high-risk lifestyle of drugs/prostitution/trafficking but it is very, very sad that after a day and a half of press there is nothing...

KooshBall · Feb 20, 2018

eucalyptuz said:
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/new...Being-Pushed-Out-of-Moving-Car-463185073.html

This article makes it sound like they know who she is but haven't released her name. Am I reading it wrong?

Bit of hope · Feb 21, 2018

KooshBall said:
This article makes it sound like they know who she is but haven't released her name. Am I reading it wrong?

The woman's name was not immediately available but police believe she was 30-years-old.

You mean because of the word "was"? I think it's a clumsy way of saying they don't know her identity. In the video they state that police don't know her identity. It's a news item that was made in December 2017. Maybe in the time between the incident and today they figured it out. But as far as I know she is still in Namus (created Feb, 13, 2018)

coffeeandacig · Feb 21, 2018

Bit of hope said:
The woman's name was not immediately available but police believe she was 30-years-old.

You mean because of the word "was"? I think it's a clumsy way of saying they don't know her identity. In the video they state that police don't know her identity. It's a news item that was made in December 2017. Maybe in the time between the incident and today they figured it out. But as far as I know she is still in Namus (created Feb, 13, 2018)

I thought about that too. Maybe they do have a clue as to who she is, but don't have a DNA or other means to rule her "officially" identified. Maybe she was in far worse shape, as in being beaten, previously to being dumped out of the car. Who knows what condition her face, and body would've been in after that kind of trauma.

BethAnn777 · Feb 21, 2018

I emailed the NAMUS contact to check on Amy Hambrick or Jenna Van Gelderen as possible matches. I will post here again if I hear back.

BethAnn777 · Feb 21, 2018

BethAnn777 said:
I emailed the NAMUS contact to check on Amy Hambrick or Jenna Van Gelderen as possible matches. I will post here again if I hear back.

Amy Dobbs from NAMUS responded to my email. She said she will check and let me know.

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