CA CA - Sacramento Co, Unksex&race UP2391, 6-11, skeletal remains found, Nov'88

Romulus · Feb 18, 2018

Namus UP 2391

https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/2391

Unidentified Body/Remains (Unsure Sex and Race)
Found November 13, 1988 in Sacramento County, CA
Body Condition: Not recognizable - partial skeletal with soft tissues
Probable year of death: 1988

Vital Statistics
Estimated age: 6-11
Approximate Height: cannot estimate
Approximate Weight: cannot estimate
Hair Color: Unknown
Eye Color: Unknown
Scars and marks: nothing

Clothing & Accessories
Clothing: nothing
Jewerly: nothing
Footwear: nothing
Accessories: nothing

Identifiers
Fingerprints: Fingerprint information is available and entered
Dentals: Dental information / charting is available and entered
DNA: Is currently available

Case History
Skeletal remains with soft tissues found.

MelmothTheLost · Feb 18, 2018

They have DNA but don't what sex the remains are?

UncoolNegated · Feb 19, 2018

MelmothTheLost said:
They have DNA but don't what sex the remains are?

I visited the profile. In the DNA tab it actually says "Status: No DNA information is currently available"

iulia · Dec 26, 2019

UnidentifiedPersons - 88-03519

Case Number 88-03519
Race Unknown
Gender Unknown
Age Child
Estimated Age Age 6 to 11 years old
Date Found 1988-11-13T08:00:00Z

Case Information
Eleven teeth were found at 1424 F Street. X-rays on file.

Other distinguishing characteristics
They are primary teeth and appear to be all from the same mouth of a child.

Melt71 · Dec 26, 2019

iulia said:
UnidentifiedPersons - 88-03519
Case Number 88-03519
Race Unknown
Gender Unknown
Age Child
Estimated Age Age 6 to 11 years old
Date Found 1988-11-13T08:00:00Z

I would email and ask the gender question of the CA Dept of Justice Missing Persons Section (Missing.Persons@doj.ca.gov). Of all the agencies I have found them the most responsive of any that I have dealt with.

Goecke · Jan 3, 2020

I wonder if this is related to the child whose skull was found in Sacramento in 1994?

Oblio · Dec 13, 2021

iulia said:
UnidentifiedPersons - 88-03519

Case Information
Eleven teeth were found at 1424 F Street. X-rays on file.

Wow, this is like right next door to Dorothea Puente’s house.

Oblio · Dec 14, 2021

Okay, it’s totally related. But I don’t think she had any known child victims. Also, they somehow missed the most common phrase I heard as a child about the case, “Nightmare in F street.” https://medium.com/california-dreaming/dorothea-puente-death-house-landlady-43df65877792

imstilla.grandma · Jun 26, 2022

Case Number	88-03519
Race	Unknown
Gender	Unknown
Age	Child
Estimated Age	Age 6 to 11 years old
Height	Unknown
Weight	Unknown
Eyes	Unknown
Hair	Unknown
Date Found	1988-11-13T08:00:00Z
Date of Death	Unknown
Case Information	Eleven teeth were found at 1424 F Street. X-rays on file.
Scars-Marks-Tattoos	None
Clothing	None
Jewelry	None
Other distinguishing characteristics	They are primary teeth and appear to be all from the same mouth of a child.

UnidentifiedPersons - 88-03519

coroner.saccounty.gov

Goecke · Jun 27, 2022

If these are just teeth and no other remains, I wonder why they're investigating this as a possible criminal matter/UID case?
I know I had all of my baby teeth in a 'tooth fairy box' as a kid, and I have no idea what happened to it. Given what we know, I wouldn't be surprised if whoever these teeth belonged to is alive and well.

PromotedPawn · Jun 29, 2022

Is this really just teeth? Do we have any other information about this?

Diavola · Jun 29, 2022

It says partial skeletal remains with some soft tissue. Is it normal for fallen teeth to have some tissue on it?
I would understand more if these were adult teeth.

HopeRains · Jun 29, 2022

newspapers.com Sacramento Bee, 15 Nov 88, pg 12. Certainly sounds like a reference to a "handful of teeth" being found, same date, time frame, and next door neighbor. In this case the teeth are described in the article as gold, which is certainly different than primary. One does have to wonder about some type of mix-up somewhere with regards to the description. I've also included a snapshot of the map as provided in the article with the location of the teeth as found, next door to boardinghouse.

Goecke · Jun 29, 2022

This is so weird.
Usually there *is* a tiny but of tissue on baby teeth that come out naturally. I also had a gold crown on one of my teeth as a kid, but it sounds weird for every single one of the teeth to be like this.

Looking at the article, the boarding house/bodies in question are referring to the boarding house ran by Dorothea Puente and her victims (Dorothea Puente - Wikipedia). But she targeted elderly and mentally disabled adults, and I feel like it would be a huge shock if there was a child victim nobody knew about.

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