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In case you are wondering I have lost my mind.

Rather than spend hours trying to remove posts in varies discussion that discuss the gun debate I thought I would give this a try just this once.

The reason I have kept the gun control debate off Websleuths is that people will lose their minds. Sorry not trying to say I don't have faith in you. I am saying I don't have faith in some of you.

All OF WEBSLEUTHS RULES APPLY.

No name calling,
No rudeness
Mainstream media and respected journals, websites only. No crazy right or left wing sites.

This is like any other topic on Websleuths.

If someone could please make a post with the links to the demonstrations coming up that would be a good way to start.

I will be watching this thread all through the evening.

Full disclosure. In my opinion, it is obscene that we have automatic weapons available. period. However, I believe that Government will never have the courage to do the right thing and stop taking money from the NRA and start getting these weapons out of the hands of angry people. Therefore it is up to us to try and stop creating the kids who are so angry they feel killing is the only way. We keep waiting on the powers that be to do something and more and more innocents are killed. No more waiting. Let's pinpoint who these kids are and take them out of society, preferably via a mental health facility, and stop the carnage before one more AR-15 or any other assault rifle is picked up by the hands of a potential killer.

Go for it.

Tricia

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You all have been posting some amazing thoughts and information.

Most of you.

Let's lay down some rules that should keep everything on track.

1-NO DISCUSSION OF TRUMP OTHER THAN HOW HE IS DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO THE GUN CONTROL DEBATE
This means no mention of how much he is hated or loved, anything to do with his tweeting unless it is gun control related.

2-WE CAN ALL AGREE TRUMP HAD NOTES DURING THE MEETING. End of story. Yes, I know some of the notes were telling or maybe not. IT IS NOT IMPORTANT.
Let's bring the discussion back to guns.

3-PLEASE STOP WITH THE ACCUSATION THAT THESE KIDS ARE BASICALLY PUPPETS. They are kids. They will get help from adults and adults would be involved. They will get a lot of help from adults who agree with them. Don't know how you feel but I am so proud of these young people it brings tears to my eyes.

4-PLEASE LET PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT OPINIONS EXPRESS THEM WITHOUT ATTACKING. I want to hear from the people who believe differently than I do. If someone posts an unpopular opinion, of course, you can challenge them but do it in a way where I don't have to remove your post and time you out. Please. Let every opinion be heard and discussed in a mature manner. As long as the opinions expressed are within our Terms of Service.

OK. Be nice to each other and let the discussion begin.

Thank you,
Tricia
 
Dick’s Sporting Goods Media Statement:
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Just to be clear, Dick’s Sporting Goods stopped selling assault weapons after Sandy Hook in their Dick’s stores. They were later sold again in just the Field & Stream outlets. They never lifted their ban, or started selling them again in the Dick’s stores.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/...r-will-stop-selling-assault-style-rifles.html

This is not the first time Dick’s has made changes in response to a school massacre. In 2012, after the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School that killed 26 people, Dick’s removed assault-style rifles from its main retail stores. But a few months later, the company began carrying the firearms at its outdoor and hunting retail chain, Field & Stream.
This time, Mr. Stack said, the changes will be permanent.
 
Some fuzzy reports coming into Twitter regarding a teacher who has allegedly locked himself into a classroom and shot himself, BUT there are also reports that he has been arrested..

[FONT=&amp] https://twitter.com/DaltonPD/status/968897864398237696

Update Dalton Police [/FONT][FONT=&quot]https://twitter.com/DaltonPD/status/968931260386172930

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]another update re presser [/FONT][FONT=&quot]https://twitter.com/DaltonPD/status/968933154600947714[/FONT][FONT=&amp] [/FONT]
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    Press conference being scheduled at 3:30 pm at the NW GA Trade Center. School and police leaders should attend.

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    The teacher involved in this morning’s incident is Jesse Randall Davidson, 53, social studies teacher. Also serves as play by play voice of the Dalton football team.

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At a high school in North Ga...Dalton, GA. At least students weren't in the room. Will the madness never end...
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ct-those-who-survived/?utm_term=.6ce13a256ba5

There have been threats, too: Cameron Kasky, a junior at the school, wrote last week that he was leaving Facebook temporarily because “the death threats from the @NRA cultists are a bit more graphic than those on twitter.”
Rebecca Boldrick, whose 17-year-old son David Hogg has become one of the school’s most prominent student-activists since the shooting, said she had initially scoffed at the conspiracy theories.
But then the family started receiving death threats, she told The Washington Post.
“I’m under so much stress,” she said a week after the shooting. “I’m angry and exhausted. Angry, exhausted and extremely proud.”
 
kittythehare said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ct-those-who-survived/?utm_term=.6ce13a256ba5

There have been threats, too: Cameron Kasky, a junior at the school, wrote last week that he was leaving Facebook temporarily because “the death threats from the @NRA cultists are a bit more graphic than those on twitter.”
Rebecca Boldrick, whose 17-year-old son David Hogg has become one of the school’s most prominent student-activists since the shooting, said she had initially scoffed at the conspiracy theories.
But then the family started receiving death threats, she told The Washington Post.
“I’m under so much stress,” she said a week after the shooting. “I’m angry and exhausted. Angry, exhausted and extremely proud.”
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The conspiracy theorists anger me so much. Families after Sandy Hook got/still get so much abuse, claiming such ridiculous things like "your child never existed" that it is just staggering. Why can't these people accept that gun control doesn't work. Agencies aren't staging or making up mass shootings to get guns off people, otherwise the guns would be long gone by now.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-...-victims-parents-harassed-by-truthers/7546536
 
this might make history...

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-...tried-to-give-scripted-question-at-town-hall/

After the emails were released on Friday, Carlson accused CNN of hypocrisy in “questioning the integrity of a survivor.”
Tonight Carlson said initially the response of the Haab family was that “they were being slandered by CNN.”
But now, with Colton’s father admitting the words were removed, Carlson conceded this:
“For the sake of honesty and full disclosure to which we are committed, we have to tell you there is no evidence as of right now that CNN tried to give Colton Haab a scripted question, and we wanted you to know that.”
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kittythehare said:
this might make history...

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-...tried-to-give-scripted-question-at-town-hall/

After the emails were released on Friday, Carlson accused CNN of hypocrisy in “questioning the integrity of a survivor.”
Tonight Carlson said initially the response of the Haab family was that “they were being slandered by CNN.”
But now, with Colton’s father admitting the words were removed, Carlson conceded this:
“For the sake of honesty and full disclosure to which we are committed, we have to tell you there is no evidence as of right now that CNN tried to give Colton Haab a scripted question, and we wanted you to know that.”
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Fox News were wrong about something. Well I am just SHOCKED at that, lol
 
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I fell in a helpless heap, don't know if I'll recover anytime soon....
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We are probably in a heap together because I laughed out loud at work and my colleagues are now looking at me as if I'm strange*



*they've always thought I'm strange. This probably just confirms it to them
 
I don't think they did it for publicity.

[FONT=&quot]Stack said that current laws fail to prevent mass shootings. He expressed frustration that the Florida school shooter, who was 19 and had given off many warning signs he was dangerous, purchased a shotgun last November at a Dick’s store (though the weapon was not used at the school). “We did everything by the book. We did everything that the law required. And still he was able to buy a gun,” Stack said.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Stack said that his company was inspired to take action by the student survivors in Parkland who have been leading the calls for tougher gun regulations and improved safety. “If the kids can be brave enough to organize like this, we can be brave enough to take these out of here,” he said.
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http://time.com/money/5178963/dicks-semi-automatic-rifles-cabelas-bass-pro-shops/[/FONT]
 
Is this thread still open for discussion on gun control?

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fiver said:
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So we've never enacted laws regarding access to materials used to make bombs in response to/after a bombing?
I remember after the Oklahoma City bombing there were some changes at least proposed...

Hmm

"In 2007, lawmakers worried about criminal or terrorist use of the chemical passed legislation instructing the Department of Homeland Security to set up a program to regulate the purchase ammonium nitrate. Four years later the department created the Ammonium Nitrate Security Program."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...s-pushes-rules-explosive-fertilizer/31075955/
 
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