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This is something that has been baffling me. Ramsey attorneys have said several times that info about Karr was given to LE before he was ever identified as a suspect, yet JR has continually stated that he has no idea who Karr is. Both Karr and the Ramsey attorneys have repeatedly refused to say how the Ramsey's and Karr were connected/how they knew each other or knew of each other.
This blatent inconsistancy has been going unnoticed by everyone in the media. WHY is the media ignoring this issue? I even read in one article where in one paragraph JR says he doesn't know Karr, and in the next paragraph the attorneys say it was the Ramsey's themselves who gave Karr's identity to LE as a possible suspect. HUH???
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_4190797
Asked whether he knew the suspect, he told 9News that "to my knowledge, no, I didn't," but stressed that he didn't yet know enough and that the justice system should be allowed to run its course.
Family attorney L. Lin Wood said the Ramseys had previously passed authorities information about Karr, but declined to elaborate.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/16/MNGT1KJSBQ19.DTL
JonBenet's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey, gave police information about Karr before he was identified as a suspect, their attorney said Wednesday. She would not say how the couple knew Karr.
I've also noticed that since JR has been running off at the mouth to anyone who will listen that he has no idea who this guy Karr is, the attorneys have suddenly gone silent in saying that it was the Ramsey's who had originally given his identity to LE. What gives?
Is is possible that Karr did kill JBR, that one or the other or both of the Ramsey's let him into the house that night and be alone with JBR for some reason, and Karr killed her in the course of what ever it was he was there to do (which turned out to be something the Ramsey's had no intention of him doing), and they covered up as best they could to conseal whatever mischief Karr's connection with JBR was?
I'm thinking that perhaps they allowed this guy on many occasions to take nudie photos of JBR or even soft *advertiser censored*, and on this particular night Karr killed her. I'm wondering if there was the possibility that the Ramsey's and Karr were connected for some time to make a bundle by secretly using JBR as the "star" of kiddie soft *advertiser censored* (and maybe worse than that), and that the Ramsey's had no idea that he was capable of torturing and killing their daughter until it was too late. But given the fact of what they were involved in with the kiddie *advertiser censored*, tried to cover-up her death as best they could so they wouldn't be found out that they put their own daughter into the situation that killed her themselves.
Patsy was obsessed about farming JBR out like a commodity with a camera almost constantly on her.
The Ramsey's had no problem tarting her up like a mini Vegas showgirl publically and were even proud of it... how far of a stretch to farm her out for nudie photos or soft *advertiser censored*?
They probably knew that she was being molested as so many experts have agreed, and were doing their damndest to cover that up. Potty problems in a child that age is a very frequent sign that they are being molested, and it could be that the Ramsey's suspected that's why she was having that problem, why they were sensative about it, and why they went overboard in trying to cover it up even going to a pediatrician that didn't imagine that molestation could be the cause of JBR's potty problems.
This could also explain JR's inexplicable statement when the body was found ("I'm sorry, I'm so sorry"), Patsy's saying that she felt guilty and why they were both so nervous about taking polygraphs.
JR knew to go directly to the basement room where the body of JBR lay as soon as LE told him to search the house because he knew where the body was. PR didn't budge off the sofa when FW raced up the stairs screaming for someone to call an ambulance which brought both Mrs. White and Mrs. "wife of other neighbor" (the name escapes me at the moment) and the detective racing toward the stairs... PR knew JBR was in the basement and was not at all shocked or surprised as she knew when JR went down to the basement what would be found.
JR could have purposely carried the body upstairs when he found it to make sure that any of his DNA or hair or fibers that may be found on the body could be explained away.
In an interview with Barbara Walters, PR said that when JBR was laid on the floor under the Christmas tree she lay down beside her and pressed her own face the JRB's... thereby explaining away any of her DNA or hair or fibers found on the body. PR also says in the interview that JR carried the body upstairs and placed it under the tree, but everyone else says that he placed the body in the foyer, and the detective picked it up and placed it near the tree.
It seems evident that a cover up involving JBR's body only attempted to cover up any evidence of molestation. Apparently, there is evidence that shows JBR's "southern region" was cleaned up, and what about those giant panties? There seemed to be a lot of dressing and undressing going on involving JBR's body, but no attempt to cover up how she was killed.
I've been hearing for years that there are kiddie *advertiser censored* photos of JBR on the internet, but no possible way am I going to test that theory out by looking for any. Some of the sources I've heard this from are from people who I'm convinced have actually seen some.
Clearly, the DA did not want the Ramsey's implicated in this case, but I don't think he would have been willing to do that if one or both of them murdered JBR... I think he was trying to cover up it getting out publically that the Ramsey's were pimping out their daughter for kiddie *advertiser censored*, and was therefore willing to thwart the investigation and botch the grand jury proceedings. He was willing to let the killer off in order to help the Ramsey's cover up the kiddie *advertiser censored* connection. He knew that letting Karr off wouldn't let a killer loose in his jurisdiction because Karr lived in Alabama... let Alabama have him.
A kiddie *advertiser censored* connection could be that "secret" info that "only the killer would know"... except JR would also know. I think that's why he is blabbing to all and sundry that he has no idea who Karr is. This way, if Karr implicates him about the kiddie *advertiser censored*, he can claim he knew nothing and lay all the blame on his conveniently dead wife. I find it significant that the investigation for Karr came only at the time of Patsy's death... now JR can lay the blame on someone who lived in the house was related to JBR and was there at the time of the murder who is no longer able to defend herself. Tracey, who is clearly a Ramsey fan, was corresponding with Karr for 4 years but only alerts police around the time of PR's death. Could JR been convincing him to wait before alerting the police until he knew that Patsy was about to die so he could have a scapegoat that couldn't defend herself?
Or am I just barking up a whole forest full of trees with this and have no idea what I'm talking about?
This blatent inconsistancy has been going unnoticed by everyone in the media. WHY is the media ignoring this issue? I even read in one article where in one paragraph JR says he doesn't know Karr, and in the next paragraph the attorneys say it was the Ramsey's themselves who gave Karr's identity to LE as a possible suspect. HUH???
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_4190797
Asked whether he knew the suspect, he told 9News that "to my knowledge, no, I didn't," but stressed that he didn't yet know enough and that the justice system should be allowed to run its course.
Family attorney L. Lin Wood said the Ramseys had previously passed authorities information about Karr, but declined to elaborate.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/16/MNGT1KJSBQ19.DTL
JonBenet's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey, gave police information about Karr before he was identified as a suspect, their attorney said Wednesday. She would not say how the couple knew Karr.
I've also noticed that since JR has been running off at the mouth to anyone who will listen that he has no idea who this guy Karr is, the attorneys have suddenly gone silent in saying that it was the Ramsey's who had originally given his identity to LE. What gives?
Is is possible that Karr did kill JBR, that one or the other or both of the Ramsey's let him into the house that night and be alone with JBR for some reason, and Karr killed her in the course of what ever it was he was there to do (which turned out to be something the Ramsey's had no intention of him doing), and they covered up as best they could to conseal whatever mischief Karr's connection with JBR was?
I'm thinking that perhaps they allowed this guy on many occasions to take nudie photos of JBR or even soft *advertiser censored*, and on this particular night Karr killed her. I'm wondering if there was the possibility that the Ramsey's and Karr were connected for some time to make a bundle by secretly using JBR as the "star" of kiddie soft *advertiser censored* (and maybe worse than that), and that the Ramsey's had no idea that he was capable of torturing and killing their daughter until it was too late. But given the fact of what they were involved in with the kiddie *advertiser censored*, tried to cover-up her death as best they could so they wouldn't be found out that they put their own daughter into the situation that killed her themselves.
Patsy was obsessed about farming JBR out like a commodity with a camera almost constantly on her.
The Ramsey's had no problem tarting her up like a mini Vegas showgirl publically and were even proud of it... how far of a stretch to farm her out for nudie photos or soft *advertiser censored*?
They probably knew that she was being molested as so many experts have agreed, and were doing their damndest to cover that up. Potty problems in a child that age is a very frequent sign that they are being molested, and it could be that the Ramsey's suspected that's why she was having that problem, why they were sensative about it, and why they went overboard in trying to cover it up even going to a pediatrician that didn't imagine that molestation could be the cause of JBR's potty problems.
This could also explain JR's inexplicable statement when the body was found ("I'm sorry, I'm so sorry"), Patsy's saying that she felt guilty and why they were both so nervous about taking polygraphs.
JR knew to go directly to the basement room where the body of JBR lay as soon as LE told him to search the house because he knew where the body was. PR didn't budge off the sofa when FW raced up the stairs screaming for someone to call an ambulance which brought both Mrs. White and Mrs. "wife of other neighbor" (the name escapes me at the moment) and the detective racing toward the stairs... PR knew JBR was in the basement and was not at all shocked or surprised as she knew when JR went down to the basement what would be found.
JR could have purposely carried the body upstairs when he found it to make sure that any of his DNA or hair or fibers that may be found on the body could be explained away.
In an interview with Barbara Walters, PR said that when JBR was laid on the floor under the Christmas tree she lay down beside her and pressed her own face the JRB's... thereby explaining away any of her DNA or hair or fibers found on the body. PR also says in the interview that JR carried the body upstairs and placed it under the tree, but everyone else says that he placed the body in the foyer, and the detective picked it up and placed it near the tree.
It seems evident that a cover up involving JBR's body only attempted to cover up any evidence of molestation. Apparently, there is evidence that shows JBR's "southern region" was cleaned up, and what about those giant panties? There seemed to be a lot of dressing and undressing going on involving JBR's body, but no attempt to cover up how she was killed.
I've been hearing for years that there are kiddie *advertiser censored* photos of JBR on the internet, but no possible way am I going to test that theory out by looking for any. Some of the sources I've heard this from are from people who I'm convinced have actually seen some.
Clearly, the DA did not want the Ramsey's implicated in this case, but I don't think he would have been willing to do that if one or both of them murdered JBR... I think he was trying to cover up it getting out publically that the Ramsey's were pimping out their daughter for kiddie *advertiser censored*, and was therefore willing to thwart the investigation and botch the grand jury proceedings. He was willing to let the killer off in order to help the Ramsey's cover up the kiddie *advertiser censored* connection. He knew that letting Karr off wouldn't let a killer loose in his jurisdiction because Karr lived in Alabama... let Alabama have him.
A kiddie *advertiser censored* connection could be that "secret" info that "only the killer would know"... except JR would also know. I think that's why he is blabbing to all and sundry that he has no idea who Karr is. This way, if Karr implicates him about the kiddie *advertiser censored*, he can claim he knew nothing and lay all the blame on his conveniently dead wife. I find it significant that the investigation for Karr came only at the time of Patsy's death... now JR can lay the blame on someone who lived in the house was related to JBR and was there at the time of the murder who is no longer able to defend herself. Tracey, who is clearly a Ramsey fan, was corresponding with Karr for 4 years but only alerts police around the time of PR's death. Could JR been convincing him to wait before alerting the police until he knew that Patsy was about to die so he could have a scapegoat that couldn't defend herself?
Or am I just barking up a whole forest full of trees with this and have no idea what I'm talking about?