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Scientists say meat, milk just as safe as from conventional livestock
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Is it live or is it memorex?Tom'sGirl said:Scientists say meat, milk just as safe as from conventional livestock
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I agree.JBean said:Is it live or is it memorex?
This makes sense to me. It seems as though it would be as good as the original IMO.
I cannot imagine it would make one bit of difference. Unless, of course, you are some sort of Clone ConnoisseurTom'sGirl said:I agree.
I was listening to the tube during the day sometime and they were discussing this. They said there will no difference in taste, and we will never know if the beef we buy comes from a cloned animal or not.
Cloneoisseur, good oneJBean said:I cannot imagine it would make one bit of difference. Unless, of course, you are some sort of Clone Connoisseur
or would that be a Cloneoisseur?
Yes, that is how I read it. Just seems to me there is no reason to label either which way.Tom'sGirl said:Cloneoisseur, good one
I think what they were referring to was if the meat was going to be labeled 'cloned' or not and the implied that it wouldn't as the stock was going to be tracked that far down the line.
Hey, if it looks like a RibEye, tastes like a RibEye, I'm eatin that sucker
Good articles becba..I'll have to read them more carefully. Always pros and cons.Becba said:http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/cloning.shtml#problems
Reproductive cloning is expensive and highly inefficient. More than 90% of cloning attempts fail to produce viable offspring. More than 100 nuclear transfer procedures could be required to produce one viable clone. In addition to low success rates, cloned animals tend to have more compromised immune function and higher rates of infection, tumor growth, and other disorders. Japanese studies have shown that cloned mice live in poor health and die early. About a third of the cloned calves born alive have died young, and many of them were abnormally large. Many cloned animals have not lived long enough to generate good data about how clones age. Appearing healthy at a young age unfortunately is not a good indicator of long term survival. Clones have been known to die mysteriously. For example, Australia's first cloned sheep appeared healthy and energetic on the day she died, and the results from her autopsy failed to determine a cause of death.
High rates of infection, tumors... I think I'll pass on the clones.
And this site is easy to find the array of problems.
http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/units/cloning/cloningrisks/
I'm with Becba on this one!! :snooty: I'll have to pass on the clones too!!Becba said:http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/cloning.shtml#problems
High rates of infection, tumors... I think I'll pass on the clones.
And this site is easy to find the array of problems.
http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/units/cloning/cloningrisks/
The article says generally the idea is to clone the best animals and then use their offspring as a food source. To those of you that are not willing to eat cloned meat, do you feel the same about the offspring of the cloned animals? they would be conceived naturally.reb said:noooooooooooooooooo! sorry, but i'm not ready to enter the 'brave new world'. since when did animals reproducing naturally become so not in vogue?? children are next, i'm sure.
besides,, hearing the phrase 'scientists say it's perfectly safe' raises all kinds of red flags.... geez, wonder why, lol.....!
Ditto that, reb!! If it becomes the norm, I suppose I'll never know the difference, but I'd definitely prefer if there was no cloning involved, ever, for animals or people! It just seems wrong, to me. :truce: JMO.reb said:noooooooooooooooooo! sorry, but i'm not ready to enter the 'brave new world'. since when did animals reproducing naturally become so not in vogue?? children are next, i'm sure.
besides,, hearing the phrase 'scientists say it's perfectly safe' raises all kinds of red flags.... geez, wonder why, lol.....!
It will be the Mad Cow disease all over again, in humans this time.czechmate7 said:I can see it now...women who ingest the products of cloned animals will give birth to individuals who 20 yrs later will see side effects....IMO (of course!!)
Mad Clone Disease?Buzzm1 said:It will be the Mad Cow disease all over again, in humans this time.
or pigs, or chickens, or lambs.Becba said:I do not beleive they have had a fertile cloned animal yet.
Articles I have read says they have imune deficiency problems and never live to a normal age even if they appear to be healthy. I ain't eating no sick cows.
Is there an MCD in our future??JBean said:Mad Clone Disease?
perhaps.Buzzm1 said:Is there an MCD in our future??