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  1. #46
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    Sep 2008
    Nick Savage, who is FBI, is a friend of Lennie's. Lennie who loves to spout his stories by degrees of separation, convinced Nick somehow, don't ask, that Lee was Caylee's father. In the mean time, Lennie was spouting this to NG, who took off running with it and the media also did. This rumor had a life of it's own. We here discussed it.

    Savage ordered this test to put an end to it, one way or another. Once the DNA analysis was reviewed by WS members, GA was also ruled out. Note, it was AZ who was one of the first to explain it as has joypath. The official explanation is all in a supplement report released by LE in the docs we have in the reference thread.

    Originally posted in the sidebar thread, afternoon session 6.16.11 concerning WHO ordered the paternity test for Lee. On cross this date, Jeff asked the FBI if either OCSO or the State of Florida requested this test. She replied NO, it was Nick Savage.

  2. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolynna View Post
    There was no meat or any other food product in the trash bag.

    From Gerardo Bloise's report

    page 22 http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530363.pdf
    Monday, August 25, 2008

    At approximately 1100 hours I met with ASL Michael Vincent regarding a white trash bag with blue handle which said bag contained several items.(Art #1, Item #H-51-976)

    ASL Vincent asked if inside the trash bag contained pizza or any type of meat. I informed ASL Vincent that when I checked inside the trash bag on July 16, 2008, I did not find any pizza or any type of meat.After said conversation, ASL Vincent instructed me to go to the Evidence Unit and retrieve art # 1 in order to re-check the trash bag again. At approximately 1153 hours I arrived at the Evidence Unit and I collected a sealed box containing the trash bag. At approximately 1300 hours I arrived at the Forensics lab and proceeded to open the sealed box.

    Myself and ASL Vincent re-inspected the trash bag. No pieces of pizza or meat were found.



    PICTURES OF TRASH FROM THE TRASH BAG http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20320624/detail.html


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Vincent, Michael (OCSO)
    Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:30 PM
    To: Vass, Arpad Alexander
    Subject: **Exempt**


    I check the trash that was in the vehicle there was no meat products in the trash. There were pieces of a pizza box and other food containers. I will be emailing you a picture of the items first thing tomorrow.

    ASL/CSI Michael J. Vincent
    OCSO/Forensics Unit

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Vass, Arpad Alexander
    Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:33 PM
    To: Vincent, Michael
    Subject: RE: **Exempt**

    Mike, not sure how I got that there was a pizza in the trunk – sorry about that one, but can you send me an itemized list of stuff that was in the trunk at the time the car was searched? Also, were the maggots on the pizza box?? Arpad

    Arpad A. Vass, Ph.D.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Vincent, Michael (OCSO)
    Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:40 PM
    To: 'Vass, Arpad Alexander'
    Subject: RE: **Exempt**

    The pizza story came from the mother, who told reporters the smell was from pizza in the trunk. A local news station left a half of pizza in a trunk for seven days, there results were no smell, no maggots, just dried out pizza. I will send you the list along with the pictures.

    ASL/CSI Michael J. Vincent
    OCSO/Forensics Unit

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Vincent, Michael (OCSO)
    Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:40 PM
    To: Vass, Arpad Alexander
    Cc: Yuri.Melich@ocfl.net
    Subject: **Exempt**

    Attached is a list of items that was in the trash bag in the vehicle. Also attached are pictures of the items. If there is anything else I can help you with please let me know.

    ASL/CSI Michael J. Vincent
    OCSO/Forensics Unit


    FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2008
    Atapproximately 1018 hours the following persons arrived at the Forensics office;

    1.Dr.Henry C. Lee,
    2. Mr.Jose Baez fromthe Baez law Firm Defense Attorney.
    3. Mr.Edward E. Phlegar fromthe Baez Law firm.

    and met for a conference meeting with this investigator and the following parties named below;

    1. Assistant Squad Leader Michael Vincent from Forensic Unit.
    2.Sargeant john Allen from Missing Person.
    3. Detective Corporal yuri Melich from Missing Person.
    4.Detective Corporal William Edwards from homicide unit.
    5. Special Agent Nick SAvage from the FBI.

    met and viewed items from the white trash bag. page 22 http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530363.pdf

    Lee wasn't denied access. He wasn't restrictred to viewing pictures. He found hairs in the garbage. But not meat or food.

    Today Dr. Huntington, the defense team's witness debunked the myth that food from the trash caused the smell, the stain, made the dogs alert, attracted the flies or were the reason for the results of Dr. Vass's tests.

    The witness examined items from the trunk and then said: There was no food in the trash.

    Trash vs Garbage is resolved.

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