Identified! AR - Hamburg, WhtMale UP2935, 20-40, red beard, hit by semi, May'89 - Charles Cornell

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Hi everyone-a member/lurker is looking for help uncovering some possibles for this UID.

Here are the links:

NamUs 2935

DOE 1890UMAR

Male, 5'10" and 135 measured, hit and run while walking across a hwy. Head hair was blonde in the front and darker in the back, 6 inches in length. There are dentals and fingerprints available for this poor man. Let's give it a shot-the height/weight and hair alone would make him a standout.
 
This happened in 1989, It sounds like somebody found him, which makes me think it was hit and run.... Wonder where he was coming from. It's real sad to think that the people who last saw him didn't miss him. Hamburg is a small town. Going to look at a map
 
It's all timber... Somebody would have noticed him walking on that road.
 
The facial structure of Phillip Eugene Andrews is very very close to the UM. The depression near the eye, downward tip of nose, square chin, shape of eyes and lips. Even their eye color appears to be the same- He is one of the closer matches I have seen.
Mr. Andrews is listed as having long blonde hair, 140, blue eyes and 5"7. The only appreciable difference to the UM is he is listed at 5"10".

I know I'm jumping the gun here, but I believe this could be a match. Anyone with more experience want to jump in with thoughts?:twocents:

Charley Page:http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/andrews_phillip.html

Namus:https://identifyus.org/report.php?p=individual&i=2935

Side By Side:
 

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I think this looks eerily close. The eyes and the surrounding structure look identical, the nose looks the same. I think this should definitely be looked into further.
 
I wish we had more information, like did the truck stop? Was it night or day? Other than 2 bandanas, he had no other belongings, or even cigarettes/lighter etc?
 
The facial structure of Phillip Eugene Andrews is very very close to the UM. The depression near the eye, downward tip of nose, square chin, shape of eyes and lips. Even their eye color appears to be the same- He is one of the closer matches I have seen.
Mr. Andrews is listed as having long blonde hair, 140, blue eyes and 5"7. The only appreciable difference to the UM is he is listed at 5"10".

I know I'm jumping the gun here, but I believe this could be a match. Anyone with more experience want to jump in with thoughts?:twocents:

Charley Page:http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/andrews_phillip.html

Namus:https://identifyus.org/report.php?p=individual&i=2935

Side By Side:

The hair color on the UID looks fake, I think you nailed it. i would call Phillip Andrews detectives and ask if he has prints anywhere, dental records and/or DNA. Dental records make for the fastest rule out as you know-it can take minutes. I don't put a lot of stock in the height difference to be honest when the rest is so compelling!!

Nice Job!!
 
I spoke with the detective handling Mr. Andrews case and there is an Arkansas connection. Mr. Andrews' father lived in Arkansas at the time.

After looking at the Namus report he also thought the unidentified man should be compared with Mr. Andrews. Unfortunately, there are no prints or dental records for Mr. Andrews, so now for the waiting game.
 
the eyebrows look different to me ...

that second pic in the side-by-side disturbed the heck outta me - shouldn't have opened this thread

)-;
 
Hi, I am the one that requested this be posted. Thanks Believe! I live in the area now. It is a very small community..about 3000 people. I asked my husband, and he says he remembers when it happened. I drove by the spot the other day. There are no houses right there. I have searched the local weekly paper and cannot find anything.

What struck me as odd is there is no mention of anything but his clothing being found with him.

I searched the missing person database and found someone that I think resembles the UID. I don't know how to post a pic, but here is the address. There is a thread on this man here on ws.



https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/2421 missing

https://identifyus.org/?p=case&i=2935&=0&s=DateFound_DESC&from=search
 
I spoke with the detective handling Mr. Andrews case and there is an Arkansas connection. Mr. Andrews' father lived in Arkansas at the time.

After looking at the Namus report he also thought the unidentified man should be compared with Mr. Andrews. Unfortunately, there are no prints or dental records for Mr. Andrews, so now for the waiting game.

Oh my-and no DNA sample on the UID.

The MedEx listed for the UID is the same one who is handling Laundry Lady, also a hit and run. FWIW, when last I checked we were having trouble getting a DNA sample from Laundry Lady because the records on where she is actually interred are confusing.
 
Hi FastpitchMom!

I think your possible match looks like a possibility.:yes: Here is Mr. Clarke's doe file and a quick side by side.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/66dmnc.html

I tried to find a larger picture of Mr. Clarke for better comparison, but couldn't.

I've decided that I must be a bad influence on my 15 yr old daughter. I had her with me the other night comparing the pictures. She was helping me trace the jawline and compare ears, etc. Do other mothers and daughters spend the evening looking at morgue photos?
 
Oh my-and no DNA sample on the UID.

The MedEx listed for the UID is the same one who is handling Laundry Lady, also a hit and run. FWIW, when last I checked we were having trouble getting a DNA sample from Laundry Lady because the records on where she is actually interred are confusing.

I was told that LE is trying to find family of Mr. Andrews for DNA. I was told the name of Mr. Andrews father and where he lived in Arkansas, I tried to look him up yesterday, and I believe he died in 2007. Obviously I can't be sure that was his obituary, but same name, same small town, would be about the right age- it is probably at least a relative of his.
One positive thing is that even after 20 yrs, LE is still actively looking for Mr. Andrews.
 
Hi FastpitchMom!

I think your possible match looks like a possibility.:yes: Here is Mr. Clarke's doe file and a quick side by side.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/66dmnc.html

I believe this is Mark Skinner Clarke,(alive and well) only different name : http://www.labri.org/canada/profiles.html



Were both of these missing, submitted?
The UID, is a redhead, and what appears blonde, seems to me to be gray/silver which is what my beautiful naturally redheaded friends hair looks like, when she lets it grow out. John also has gray in his beard....
 
I believe this is Mark Skinner Clarke,(alive and well) only different name : http://www.labri.org/canada/profiles.html



Were both of these missing, submitted?
The UID, is a redhead, and what appears blonde, seems to me to be gray/silver which is what my beautiful naturally redheaded friends hair looks like, when she lets it grow out. John also has gray in his beard....

Did you notice his first name is Clarke?:waitasec: Check out picture 23 in the Canadian photo gallery- the pic has him with a beard- i also think this is Mr. Clarke. Nice job MadeaBecBec!!
I just realized they had a retreat last weekend less than an hour from where I live- just a side note.

http://www.labri.org/canada/photos/index.html
 
I looked at both the UID and Mark Clarke and do think they're the same person. The noses have the same appearence. The other living man, Clarke Scheibe is way too young. Mark Clarke was born a year before me making him 55 now which is older than Scheibe... he's just too young. JMHO
 

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