This is sort of the "People Who Live in Glass Houses" portion of our show.
Both sides are often accused of ignoring evidence, failing to make real-world considerations or using so-called "spin."
The question is, which side does it more often and more egregiously? (Note that they need not be one and the same.)
To start this one rolling, we'll use two unedited posts from folks on either side:
Both sides are often accused of ignoring evidence, failing to make real-world considerations or using so-called "spin."
The question is, which side does it more often and more egregiously? (Note that they need not be one and the same.)
To start this one rolling, we'll use two unedited posts from folks on either side:
HoldontoyourHat said:Crime Scene Item............... Prima Facie Contention......................... RDI Contention
2nd ligature........................ restraining device ......................................NOT a restraining device
ligature ............................. strangulation device ..................................NOT a strangulation device
underwear DNA.................... evidence of an intruder ..............................NOT evidence of an intruder
ransom note....................... extortion attempt......................................NOT an extortion attempt
sexual injuries .....................sexual assault ..........................................NOT a sexual assault
furrow & petechia ................strangled to death ....................................NOT strangled to death
headbash ...........................deliberate part of murder ...........................NOT deliberate
touch DNA .........................corroborating evidence ...............................NOT corroborating evidence
misspelled words .................accidental misspellings ................................NOT accidental misspellings
cord ..................................owned by intruder .....................................NOT owned by intruder
foreign faction ....................foreign faction ..........................................NOT foreign faction
SBTC................................. no data .................................................S aved by the cross, etc.
PR and/or JR owns the smoke and mirrors: PR and/or JR in less than 8 hours made many of these items look like the work of an intruder
RDI owns the smoke and mirrors: RDI over years and years has made actual criminal acts by an intruder appear to be the work of PR and/or JR.
Sophie said:As opposed to IDI who:
Ignore the fact that most children are murdered by close family and relatives;
Ignore the Ramseys' post-murder behaviour and believe the Ramsey story; that JBR was asleep when she got home (despite having been fed pineapple shortly before death and having a different hair arrangement when she was found dead than she had at the Whites' party etc ad infinitum);
Ignore the fact that there was older damage to the child's vagina indicted by the autopsy;
Ignore Ramsey fibres being found in criminally suggestive places or else suggest that the killer wore Patsy's and John's clothes while carrying out the crime;
Ignore the stats that burglaries go up at Christmas generally but down on Christmas day itself while family violence escalates on that day and that is pretty much the case in the Christmas-celebrating world;
Ignore the fact that three out of four people in that house survived the night without hearing the thundering report of a child getting her head staved in or any of the other events of the night;
Ignore the fact that the duct tape had been used previously and had been placed on a dead or unconscious child;
Ignore the fact that there is no evidence of JBR having struggled against restraints so she either had them placed on her when she was already dead or unconscious. Why? The job's already been done.
Ignore the fact that the RN itself points to three separate motives for killing JBR while the sexual assault points to another;
Ignore what an intruder would have had to do in an unknown house in complete darkness and complete silence in rather less than eight hours as opposed to what the family could do in their own home in at least eight hours (a full working day).
And that's without skimming the surface..