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Utah:

Jeffrey Lynn O'Carroll
5'10" - 6'
age 36
8/27/86

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2011dmut.html

Wyoming:

David V. Lovely
6'4"
brown hair (looks reddish & curly in pics)
age 19 when missing on 8/5/85
he would be in mid 20's in 1991

Oregon:

Timothy D Moreau
"white male red hair tall"
RED hair
only 21 y/o
1/23/90 in Portland, OR

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3768dmor.html

James L. Proctor
6'
brown
12/23/90
age 47

Bradley J. Wakefield
6'1"
brown (looks very dark & curly in the picture)
8/5/91
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3263dmor.html

Howard Dearmon
12/1987
6'1
says bald but picture shows brown hair
age 52
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4033dmor.html

This concludes Oregon 1987 thru date found
 
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wenwe4 said:
Moving onto AZ:

Allen A. Hoffman - Will add today - #37 on Master List
5' 10"
blond
restorations on tooth #3, #14, #30
7/2/89
(he is 25 y/o however)
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3587dmaz.html

Luther V Smith - Will add today - #38 on Master List
6'0"
sandy hair (although picture shows some spots of grey)
7/4/91
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4180dmaz.html

James M Zinza - Already on the Master list - #6
5'11"
blond
typically wore Levi's
age 30
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4017dmaz.html

this concludes AZ from 1989 to date found

Idaho has only 1 possible
missing since late 1985-early 86
Louis Negeulourart - Will add to the Master List today - #39
6'1"
brown
age 61
missing from ID but car found in NV
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/856dmid.html
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Ibiz said:
I know the Detective was concerned about his height, but he's only 2 inches shorter then speculated. My concern is age.

Also, I am interested in knowing how well these bone people are at predicting age and height?

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If the jeans are determined to be the unidentified man's, it's unlikely he would be 5'10". He'd be all legs and no torso. The jean size leads me to believe he's on the higher end of the 6'-6'-3" range. I'm only speaking from the standpoint of a mother who has a tall son, and I've been buying his clothes most of his life.

But I agree he should still be put on the list for consideration at some point.
 
Wenwe4,

I didn't forget about your request for a copy of the master list. I have been trying to attach a file to provide everyone with a copy of the Master List. For whatever reason, I am unable to do so. I give up. I will PM a mod and ask for assistance.
 
Miss Muffet said:
If the jeans are determined to be the unidentified man's, it's unlikely he would be 5'10". He'd be all legs and no torso. The jean size leads me to believe he's on the higher end of the 6'-6'-3" range. I'm only speaking from the standpoint of a mother who has a tall son, and I've been buying his clothes most of his life.

But I agree he should still be put on the list for consideration at some point.
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I so agree. My husband is 6'1" and only wears a 32" inseam, he is long waisted and has short legs.
 
TxJan1971 said:
Wenwe4,

I didn't forget about your request for a copy of the master list. I have been trying to attach a file to provide everyone with a copy of the Master List. For whatever reason, I am unable to do so. I give up. I will PM a mod and ask for assistance.
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I am sorry it has been problematic. Thank you so much for indulging me for the repeated individuals, and for all of the red updates! I do appreciate your hard work on this project. Is there anything more I can post in the descriptions that would be helpful for your Master list?
 
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wenwe4 said:
Utah:

Jeffrey Lynn O'Carroll - Will add today to Master List - #41
5'10" - 6'
age 36
8/27/86

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2011dmut.html

Wyoming:

David V. Lovely - Will add today to Master List - #42
6'4"
brown hair (looks reddish & curly in pics)
age 19 when missing on 8/5/85
he would be in mid 20's in 1991

Oregon:

Timothy D Moreau - Will add today - #43
"white male red hair tall"
RED hair
only 21 y/o
1/23/90 in Portland, OR

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3768dmor.html

James L. Proctor - Will add today - #44
6'
brown
12/23/90
age 47

Bradley J. Wakefield - Will add today - #45
6'1"
brown (looks very dark & curly in the picture)
8/5/91
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3263dmor.html

Howard Dearmon - Will add today - #46
12/1987
6'1
says bald but picture shows brown hair
age 52
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4033dmor.html

This concludes Oregon 1987 thru date found
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fred&edna said:
John William Wagner's last known contact was in Kanab (Utah) for arrest on DUI in 1993. BUT, his family hadn't seen him since 1991. Is LE certain the person arrested in 1993 was, in fact, Wagner... or could it have been someone else who might have stolen Wagner's ID?

http://updsl.org/cold-cases/wagner-john-william

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?112627-UT-John-William-Wagner-34-Sandy-24-Aug-1993


It's a rather weak possibility but I thought I'd toss it into the mix.
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Will add today to the Master List - #47
 
wenwe4 said:
I so agree. My husband is 6'1" and only wears a 32" inseam, he is long waisted and has short legs.
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Welp, I'm 5'8", and wear 32-32 jeans. I can wear, and have word 32-34 by just rolling up the cuffs a bit. But I've wore 32-30 as we'll. depends on the pants too I guess.
 
Ibiz said:
Welp, I'm 5'8", and wear 32-32 jeans. I can wear, and have word 32-34 by just rolling up the cuffs a bit. But I've wore 32-30 as we'll. depends on the pants too I guess.
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OT - yeah my DH's legs are really short.

I asked previously if those jeans were rolled up or hemmed (or worn out) at a shorter length - not sure if it is known. I think I will still post anyone 5'10" and up that should accomodate the variations in each individual's leg length.
 
wenwe4 said:
OT - yeah my DH's legs are really short.

I asked previously if those jeans were rolled up or hemmed (or worn out) at a shorter length - not sure if it is known. I think I will still post anyone 5'10" and up that should accomodate the variations in each individual's leg length.
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The problem is the peeps that examined the skeleton. They said the victim is a minimum of 6' tall. That's why i asked how precise they are with that.
 
Washington State:

Ralph A. Newcombe
5'11"
brown (looks darker but reddish in the light)
missing 4/17/89 - he may have been seen in other states and/or changed his identity
35 y/o

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4076dmwa.html

Jeffrey J Baker
6'
Brown
33
missing since 4/24/89

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3704dmwa.html

Daniel R Turpin
6'
Brown
missing since 7/28/89
retired Air Force
age 26
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4300dmwa.html

Jason M. Goddard
6'2
Blond (looks RED in picture)
3/9/90
age 21
foul play suspected

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4225dmwa.html

Reuben M Lewis
5'11"
long curly (dark?) brown hair (doesn't appear to match)
age 20
2/22/91

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/268dmwa.html

This concludes Washington 1989 thru 1991
 
I'm seeing conflicting states where the owner of the car lived. I thought the detectives said Oklahoma? But I'm seeing on namus Colorado? Which state is he from so that we can search that state in case it is related and the person disappeared from that state.
 
I understand info on the abandon car may be limited to what can be revealed and the info on the owner that was interviewed will not be released but I have questions I hope the detectives can answer. Do the plates on the car match the registration? Or were there even license plates on the vehicle?
 
fred&edna said:
John William Wagner's last known contact was in Kanab (Utah) for arrest on DUI in 1993. BUT, his family hadn't seen him since 1991. Is LE certain the person arrested in 1993 was, in fact, Wagner... or could it have been someone else who might have stolen Wagner's ID?

http://updsl.org/cold-cases/wagner-john-william

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?112627-UT-John-William-Wagner-34-Sandy-24-Aug-1993


It's a rather weak possibility but I thought I'd toss it into the mix.
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Arrests are associated (even in the late 80's and early 90's) with fingerprinting. Unless Wagner did not have prints taken prior to his first arrest, that is the only possibility that would have Wagner be the victim of a stolen identity. If he was arrested in 1993, he can be ruled out.
 
Sleuthster said:
I'm seeing conflicting states where the owner of the car lived. I thought the detectives said Oklahoma? But I'm seeing on namus Colorado? Which state is he from so that we can search that state in case it is related and the person disappeared from that state.
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The vehicle was registered out of Oklahoma at the time it was located, the owner was later contacted in Colorado.
 
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