Toddler's Mother/Peaches/Jane Doe #3

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Thanks for the article. How come they never found Peaches skull, limbs? Are they somewhere along the barrier islands, or somewhere else? does they killer still have them? They should try publicizing again in East Hartford, someone who lived there knew Peaches, and also in Bristol as well as NY. I bet at the time when they first were trying to identify her no one realized she was missing yet, but it's been 20 years and someone is looking for her.
 
Is it possible to contact the Bronx and LI maternity wards to see if anyone (doctors/nurses/lactation specialist) recognizes her tattoo for when she had her c-section? Also, if a child isn't looking for their mother after all this time maybe the orphanages in these areas might be helpful? Depending on where the tattoo was placed on her breast, it may have been something she showed off. Thoughts?


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I have a strong feeling this case is connected to LISK.
 
just opinion here.... I think its possible that they fear their suspect is law enforcement or retired LE, possibly even an LEO who had his job terminated. (with the termination possibility could be a chronic offender of sexual harassment, an officer who picked on prostitutes, that type of thing. Maybe an officer with just a few years under his belt and a decision made that he is disposable and a pain in the butt so he was canned) just thoughts,,,,
The mom is not in NamUs. I believe LE knows who she is. The ME said LE wont sign off on her profile being entered. WHY????? There was a press conference Dec 2015 about the Gilgo case. Not one reporter asked this question. Dont they know?
 
Yeah, that's one of the reasons I stopped working on these cases. You can't do anything, really, when LE isn't cooperating.
 
This might sound like a really stupid thing to ask but so far the LISK case is new to me. But why haven't they released a composite sketch of mother/toddler?


**Hoping I haven't asked a waste of time question. :eek:
 
This might sound like a really stupid thing to ask but so far the LISK case is new to me. But why haven't they released a composite sketch of mother/toddler?


**Hoping I haven't asked a waste of time question. :eek:

No that is a great question! I have read probably 90% of articles and forums on the LISK and have never seen a reason given for this. Would love to know the answer to this also!
 
seems likely if mother(Jane Doe #3) was a sex worker, the baby was a product of a trick, and the killer was her significant other, and killing the mother and baby was his reaction to finding out he wasn't the father, possibly after just learning she was involved in turning tricks prior
 
No that is a great question! I have read probably 90% of articles and forums on the LISK and have never seen a reason given for this. Would love to know the answer to this also!

Sadly, when LE isn't interested in releasing information about a case or investing in identification aids, it really reduces what we're able to do to try to identify someone.
 
Sadly, when LE isn't interested in releasing information about a case or investing in identification aids, it really reduces what we're able to do to try to identify someone.

How sad that they might never have names :(
 
There was an Asian male found at Gilgo Beach. The theory is that he may have been a cross dressing prostitute.
 
The mom is not in NamUs. I believe LE knows who she is. The ME said LE wont sign off on her profile being entered. WHY????? There was a press conference Dec 2015 about the Gilgo case. Not one reporter asked this question. Dont they know?
I now wonder if this victim is Peaches. The same Peaches thats described in UID.
 
I'm just throwing this out there as a possible theory as to the identities of the mother and toddler found on Long Island. I was thinking about the fact that the mother and toddler were recovered with bracelets and earrings. Has anyone thought that it is fairly unusual for a young toddler to wear earrings? Well, not if she is from an Irish travelling family. In the UK where I live,there are numerous Irish 'travellers' or 'gypsies' who move from one place to the next,sometimes living in caravans and other times houses. Is it possible the mother and daughter are descended from Irish immigrants? The hoop earrings give the game away to me. fairly unusual. I don't know if Irish travellers populate the US to the extent they do in the UK but this may be a different line of enquiry for the police to follow to possibly identify the victims. Might be one avenue they haven't thought of.
 
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l to r: 2 inch peach/heart tattoo on left breast; Rubbermaid container held torso of black female; floral pillowcase and red towel also found inside container

Hempstead Lake State Pk, Lakeview
Nassau County, NY

28 June 1997

West side of Lakeside Drive, 200 yards north of Peninsula Boulevard, Hempstead Lake State Park. -- Black female torso. Arms, head, and legs below the knee severed, found in green Rubbermaid container, with red towel and floral pillow sham, 16-30 years old.

She had an abdominal scar from a cesarean section and a tattoo of a peach in the shape of a heart with a bite taken out of it and two drips falling from its core on her left breast.

Dead up to three days.

"With no leads to the woman’s identity, the police published a picture of the approximately two-inch wide tattoo in a national tattoo magazine, in the hopes of finding the artist who did the work. They received a call from a man in Connecticut who claimed he remembered giving the tattoo to a woman.

The artist said he remembered the customer as a young black woman, about 18 or 19 years old, who was accompanied by two women, an aunt and a cousin. During the session, he also claimed she told him she was from either the Bronx or Long Island and that she was in Connecticut because having trouble with her boyfriend at the time. It is possible the woman had other tattoos on her arms or lower legs that the killer did not want found." (Doe Network)
“'They call her Peaches,'” Nassau County Medical Examiner Eric Smith says of his law enforcement colleagues, as he thumbs through photographs of unidentified bodies in the back room of the county morgue—some battered, swollen faces, others clay reproductions with glass eyes.

Her official name is U-037859772."

"A scar on the woman’s lower abdomen showed she had given birth by Cesarean."

"An autopsy revealed she had been dead no more than three days when she was found." (LI Press)


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Bessie, Can you add Peach's Namus link to the first comment/description? https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/11652

_rachel
 

snipped from article - June 29, 2008
The medical examiner revealed that the victim had a cesarean-section scar, and Brosnan said the woman may have given birth to a child one to three years prior to her homicide.
Cullen described her as being a light-skinned African-American woman, possibly biracial, around the ages of 18 to 20. He had drawn the tattoo on her the year before the homicide. Cullen recalled that the woman was from New York and had come to Bristol to visit friends. She had entered his studio with another black woman, he said. While she got her tattoo, the two women remarked that they were going to East Hartford later that night to visit another friend, Cullen said
Cullen said the woman did not have a southern drawl to her voice nor did she have a Spanish or urban accent.

“She seemed like a good kid, not the trouble type, just a typical fun-loving kid,”
 
If there is DNA available from the Mother and child another option for comparison and possible identification would be Ancestry DNA. Ancestry DNA compares DNA of individuals who have voluntarily submitted DNA for genealogical reasons. If a distant relative of Mother and baby doe is in their database it could connect them to a family. Ancestry has a television show where there are using DNA from adoptee participants to connect them with their biological families via samples that have been sent in by ancestry users. The police would have to be opened minded and contact Ancestry to see if they would be willing to help.
 
If there is DNA available from the Mother and child another option for comparison and possible identification would be Ancestry DNA. Ancestry DNA compares DNA of individuals who have voluntarily submitted DNA for genealogical reasons. If a distant relative of Mother and baby doe is in their database it could connect them to a family. Ancestry has a television show where there are using DNA from adoptee participants to connect them with their biological families via samples that have been sent in by ancestry users. The police would have to be opened minded and contact Ancestry to see if they would be willing to help.

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Although I'm convinced anything will ever be done to ID Jane and her baby.
 
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