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SUSPECTED ISLAMIST ARE BEING PREVENTED FROM RETURNING TO THE UK FOR THE FIRST TIME

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...mber-network-may-still-be-at-large-amber-rudd

Suspected Islamist terrorists are being prevented from returning to the UK for the first time, the home secretary has disclosed, as she warned that members of the Manchester bomber’s terror network could still be at large.

The home secretary said Isis was trying to “weaponise” young Britons and defended the work of the UK’s security services following claims that warnings about Abedi were not followed up.

The murderer had been a former “subject of interest” to MI5, but Rudd said: “The intelligence services are still collecting information about him and about the people around him. But I would not rush to conclusions, as you seem to be, that they have somehow missed something.”

She added: “What this reminds us is the scale of the problem that we have, the enemy that we have, Daesh, that is trying to weaponise the young people in our society.”


BBM

The parents of victim Georgina Callander issued a statement:

“I wish I could say that Georgina is one of the last to die in this way but unless our government opens its eyes we know we are only another in a long line of parents on a list that continues to grow.”
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/28/arrest-made-police-investigating-manchester-atrocity2/
[h=1]Counter-terror police arrest 23-year-old man in Sussex over Manchester attack[/h]
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29 May 2017 • 5:02am A crackdown on the suspected terror network behind the Manchester Arena suicide bomber extended to the south coast early on Monday as police made the latest arrest in a fast-moving investigation.
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The total number of people in custody over the attack rose to 14 when a 23-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of terror offences in Shoreham-by-Sea, Sussex, early on Monday.
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ZaZara said:
SUSPECTED ISLAMIST ARE BEING PREVENTED FROM RETURNING TO THE UK FOR THE FIRST TIME

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...mber-network-may-still-be-at-large-amber-rudd

Suspected Islamist terrorists are being prevented from returning to the UK for the first time, the home secretary has disclosed, as she warned that members of the Manchester bomber’s terror network could still be at large.

The home secretary said Isis was trying to “weaponise” young Britons and defended the work of the UK’s security services following claims that warnings about Abedi were not followed up.

The murderer had been a former “subject of interest” to MI5, but Rudd said: “The intelligence services are still collecting information about him and about the people around him. But I would not rush to conclusions, as you seem to be, that they have somehow missed something.”

She added: “What this reminds us is the scale of the problem that we have, the enemy that we have, Daesh, that is trying to weaponise the young people in our society.”


BBM

The parents of victim Georgina Callander issued a statement:

“I wish I could say that Georgina is one of the last to die in this way but unless our government opens its eyes we know we are only another in a long line of parents on a list that continues to grow.”
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As I said before if we can prevent football hooligans travelling then why not terrorists or suspected terrorists? Or at least prevent them coming back? However we will still be targets abroad like those in Tunisia.
 
It is so sad to know the victims were all alive and uninjured this time last week. They were all looking forward to a great concert at night or going to pick up their excited children not knowing their lives would change forever. It is a reminder to us all to make the most of every day we have.

Thank you to all of you for your news updates and posts they are appreciated.
 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/traumatised-doctor-called-p-terrorist-after-48-hours-saving-manchester-victims-a7761126.html
A man yelled racist abuse at a NHS surgeon who had spent the past 48 hours working hard to save lives of those caught up in the Manchester bombing attack.

Naveed Yasin had been on his way back to Salford Royal Hospital after two days work to desperately save victims of the largest terror attack in the UK since 2005 when he was subject to the abuse.
The trauma and orthopaedic surgeon said he was driving when a “white, middle-aged van driver” pulled up beside him and blasted his horn.
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ZaZara said:
SUSPECTED ISLAMIST TERRORISTS ARE BEING PREVENTED FROM RETURNING TO THE UK FOR THE FIRST TIME
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This, in my opinion, is a crucial step towards preventing terrorists being trained in Libya then returning to the U.K.

Many of the terrorists flew to Syria as well as Libya and back and forth to other countries before they attacked.
 
dotr said:
Apologies for offensive pics. but LE do want people to see if they can recall his movements since May 18th. rbbm.
Note, should a separate thread be created for this search and pics?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40072786
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Where did the logo on his hat go?
 
zencompass said:
Hi dotr,

A trainee pilot involved in terrorist activity is incredibly disturbing - so thankful this individual has been arrested.

Thank you for your news updates. Greatly appreciated.
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Yes a big red flag .
 
Security services hunting for this blue suitcase

Detectives trying to piece together the final movements of the Manchester suicide bomber have released new images of him carrying a blue suitcase.

Officers are asking members of the public if they saw Salman Abedi with the suitcase between May 18 and May 22, when he carried out the attack.

Detective Chief Superintendent Russ Jackson said: "We believe Abedi was in possession of this case in the days before the attack at Manchester Arena on Monday 22 May.

"I want to stress that this is a different item than the one he used in the attack. This image was taken from CCTV in the city centre on 22 May.

http://www.itv.com/news/2017-05-29/...new-images-of-salman-abedi-carrying-suitcase/

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The trainee pilot made my blood run cold.

We can only hope that the police are able to capture all of this network, because who knows what they have planned.

Very pleased that they are stopping suspects re-entering the UK though.
 
"The parents of Manchester bombing victim Olivia Campbell announced their engagement to honour her memory.

Charlotte, 15, was one of the 22 victims tragically killed during a terror attack at the MEN Arena in Manchester last Monday.


Her mother Charlotte and stepfather Paul delivered an emotional tribute to their daughter on ITV’s Good Morning Britain, insisting that they wanted to ‘keep her alive’."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/parents-manchester-bombing-victim-olivia-10522871

Congratulations to Olivia's parents. I'm so sorry Olivia is not longer with us.
 
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40086352
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Officers are appealing for people who might have seen him carrying the blue suitcase between 18 and 22 May.

The BBC has also obtained CCTV footage which appears to show Abedi in a shop the day before the bombing, which killed 22 people.

Police are searching a landfill site on the outskirts of Bury, Greater Manchester.

The 22-year-old visited the Wilmslow Road area of Manchester and the city centre with the suitcase, police said.

Det Ch Supt Russ Jackson, from the North West Counter Terrorism Unit, said: "I want to stress that this is a different item than the one he used in the attack.

"We have no reason to believe the case and its contents contain anything dangerous, but would ask people to be cautious."

He added: "The public should not approach the case if they see it but contact police immediately on 999."
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Published on May 29, 2017

New CCTV footage has emerged which appears to show the Manchester bomber Salman Abedi shopping at a convenience store. The footage was recorded in a store close to the flat where the suicide bomber was just hours before the attack at Manchester Arena which killed 22 people. The BBC has passed the footage to investigating officers. Greater Manchester Police have asked anyone with information to contact the Anti-Terrorist Hotline in confidence on 0800 789 321
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[video=youtube;NZXFmHzYyHI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZXFmHzYyHI[/video]
 
Concerning the big, blue suitcase - why did he not use one in a muted colour like grey or black, considering everything else he wore was low-key, except perhaps his seemingly pricey footwear?
Wondering if he was left-handed and if that was why he apparently pulled the suitcase ( assuming it was heavy ) in that hand, if he was right-handed, one might assume the case was light..

Wondering if the case was that style and colour to make it easy to stand out if he was leaving it for conspirators to pick it up somewhere, OR, did he want a suitcase that would blend into the scenery of wherever he left it, ie. near something blue in colour, like a building, water ect?
Are there any busy places in Manchester that happen to be painted blue?

imo, speculation.
 
CoolJ said:
Where did the logo on his hat go?
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I think it's still there but it's mirrored so blending in with the rest of the hat colour.

I've just watched the minutes silence to mark a week since this tragedy and it was very emotional.
 
dotr said:
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[video=youtube;NZXFmHzYyHI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZXFmHzYyHI[/video]
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I watched this video a few times and it is still totally beyond me how someone can go shopping for what must be his last meal. And he's been working towards this day for over a year. He is about to blow himself up and murder a lot of unbelievers. And there he stands. Doritos? Mars bar?

If I were to choose my last bite of chocolate, the choice itself among so many riches would halt whatever I planned.

Been reading a lot about the background of (young) jihadists lately. It is often said that radicalization happens through the internet, and no doubt this is true to a certain extent, but there is more. Like the role of the family, the neighbourhood, the mosque. Radicalization does not happen in a vacuum.

The Sun
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/36673...tish-soldiers-and-non-believers-to-be-killed/
The mosque where bomber Salman Abedi *worshipped hosted hate preachers who called for British soldiers to be killed and gays and adulterers to be stoned to death.
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Express
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/ex...adicals-to-fill-the-gap-khalid-mahmood-labour

Khalid Mahmood, Labour MP for Birmingham:
The threat today is much more diverse and widespread than a few years ago. We are in a situation where atrocities emerge from lone attackers with unsophisticated techniques as well as massive, orchestrated incidents such as the one on the innocent youngsters in Manchester.

There is an elephant in the room, which small elements of the Muslim community refuse to acknowledge: that the people involved in these attacks are from Muslim backgrounds.

While the vast majority of Muslims are equally terrorised by what happened there is a category among the Muslim community that is involved in creating this havoc and they should be taken to task.

(....)

But there are elements within the Muslim community that also need reform. We need to look at the infrastructure through which we deliver our religion to young people.

I believe we need to revisit the responsibility of mosques and madrassas (Islamic religious schools) and should have a deeper look into the dissemination of religious information.

It is unfortunate that even today we are afraid to touch issues such as child protection procedures and certification for imams and teachers of Islam.
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Britain's intelligence services have launched an inquiry into how warnings about the 22-year-old Abedi's radical views were handled amid indications that vital warning signs were missed.

Police are scouring 12,960 hours of closed circuit TV recordings in their search for clues, have collected more than 630 pieces of evidence and have searched 21 addresses.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-05-29-13-17-42
 
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