NH NH/CA - Terry Peder Rasmussen, suspected SK, Allenstown, 1981-2000's - #3

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Stephen2016 said:
The only thing about Waumbec now that bothers me is they don't know the exact date he worked there. Which makes me wonder do they even know if he did work there.


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I think they confirmed that he did with this supervisor, who is also the land owner on which the barrels were found and owner of the store that burned down. He also did some handyman work for that guy, too.
 
I thought the relative's comment with the press release announcing TR's name strongly implied that nobody in the family, whether wife or others, had seen or heard from him since the June 1978 visit.

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I've also been VERY curious why him and his wife split.

Did something traumatic happen? Alcohol abuse? Violent nature? Sick tendencies

Did TR resent the idea of a "perfect family" after the split, thus targeting young woman with children? OR

Were woman with children just more vulnerable to lure and sell the "family man" idea to? Did TR abuse his own children and his wife found out?

Did he realize he had horrific thoughts of abusing his children so he left to spare them and targeted others?
 
Gardener1850 said:
I've been down that same rabbit hole with the Texas wedding. I'm pretty sure that it is not him. There is another Rasmussen listed in the wedding party with the first initial G. G. Rasmussen is the brother of the Terry Rasmussen in the wedding party. I found their mother's obituary from 2002 and the TR of Arlington, TX was married and still living in Texas then. Here is an index of the mother's obit from Familysearch: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK27-V1L7
You can view it through Genealogy bank if you have a sub to that or perhaps it can be found in newspapers.com (I can view it through genealogybank).
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Aw that's a shame! Dang so hopeful! Good work Gardner1850:tyou:
 
Piknik said:
Yes, but December of 1978 is more crucial to see if Terry returned to Hawaii as opposed to June 1995. If he did return to Hawaii there is a whole line of questions that could be asked.
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Oh I see what you're getting at. Wonder when the last time his immediate family actually saw him.
 
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he may have told her that and she accepted it as a child who didn't know any better.

aThousandYearsWide said:
Excellent point! She also was useful to him while on the run while playing his whole "grieving single father routine". A question though would be why she has memories of siblings that died while camping. Why did he spare her then?
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carbuff said:
I thought the relative's comment with the press release announcing TR's name strongly implied that nobody in the family, whether wife or others, had seen or heard from him since the June 1978 visit.

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Okay, so now I am really confused. I thought his real family last saw him in December 1974. Now I have seen a reference to June and December 1978. I agree with Bessie. I think we need to go back to links.

Here's one article that states LE is looking for his whereabouts between 1974 when he visited his family in Arizona and the late 70s when he arrived in NH. I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER ARTICLES THAT ARE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT IT BEING CHRISTMAS. BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY 1974 not 1978.

Sorry, the all-caps is unintentional.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/08/...s-allenstown-new-hampshire-bodies-in-barrels/
 
Owutatangledweb said:
Okay, so now I am really confused. I thought his real family last saw him in December 1974. Now I have seen a reference to June and December 1978. I agree with Bessie. I think we need to go back to links. Here's one article that states LE is looking for his whereabouts between 1974 when he visited his family in Arizona and the late 70s when he arrived in NH. I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER ARTICLES THAT ARE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT IT BEING CHRISTMAS. BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY 1974 not 1978. Sorry, the all-caps is unintentional. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/08/...s-allenstown-new-hampshire-bodies-in-barrels/
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I agree about confirming when the last time his family allegedly saw him with links, as I recall the last time him being seen was Dec. 1974 as well. I'm guessing here, but there may be an assumption that folks believe he may/could have attended his brother's funeral? that's what I'm gathering, which I believe he died Dec. 1978. However, if he arrived in NH at that time and hadn't contacted anyone in his family after 1974, he may not have known he passed away. His obituary wouldn't have been in the NH paper unless his family knew he was there and put it in there, that would have been the only way he could have found out if he lost contact with friends and family back home.
 
bessie said:
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Sorry, I was on my tablet where search and links are quite difficult. I mistakenly thought a detailed reference to the press conference article would be enough. I'll refrain in the future. My bad.

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carbuff said:
Sorry, I was on my tablet where search and links are quite difficult. I mistakenly thought a detailed reference to the press conference article would be enough. I'll refrain in the future. My bad.
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When I quote one of the press conferences, I usually don't put the link because I haven't figured out how to add a hyper link and it takes up so much darned room. Plus, they're easily found on Youtube and have been linked so many times between this thread and the Allenstown thread, I would hope anyone following this case would have already watched them. They're very informative.
 
carbuff said:
Sorry, I was on my tablet where search and links are quite difficult. I mistakenly thought a detailed reference to the press conference article would be enough. I'll refrain in the future. My bad.

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I feel like I missed something. Not sure what happened but please keep contributing here, carbuff. :hug:

If you have trouble posting a media link, others here can help find it. We have a media thread now too: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...nes-Photos-*NO-DISCUSSION&highlight=Rasmussen
 
Alleykins said:
I agree about confirming when the last time his family allegedly saw him with links, as I recall the last time him being seen was Dec. 1974 as well. I'm guessing here, but there may be an assumption that folks believe he may/could have attended his brother's funeral? that's what I'm gathering, which I believe he died Dec. 1978. However, if he arrived in NH at that time and hadn't contacted anyone in his family after 1974, he may not have known he passed away. His obituary wouldn't have been in the NH paper unless his family knew he was there and put it in there, that would have been the only way he could have found out if he lost contact with friends and family back home.
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I thought we had previously been asked by mods to stop discussing the brother, since the brother's death has never been mentioned in any current articles in relation to this case. However, if we are allowed to discuss, I DO want to say that I think it would be fairly easy for LE to determine if TR traveled to Hawaii at any time after his family saw him last.

As to the last contact/last seen confusion-- maybe this timeline will help clear things up (BBM):

1973 (approx.): Rasmussen and family move back to Phoenix. Works again for “Otto” and works in shoe shop.

1973: Rasmussen’s wife and children leave him.

December 1974: Rasmussen unexpectedly visits wife and children in Payson, Ariz., in the company of an unidentified female. He indicates he is living at the Casa Del Rey Apartments in Ingleside, Texas. It’s the last time his family sees him.

June 1978: Rasmussen contacts friends in Arizona and asks for money. Tells friends he is working on oil rig in Texas.

Sept. 28, 1978: Divorce finalized. Rasmussen’s whereabouts unknown.

1978-1979 (approx.): Rasmussen works at Waumbec Mills in Manchester as head electrician Bob Evans.
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http://www.unionleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20170818/NEWS03/170819310/1006
 
Owutatangledweb said:
Okay, so now I am really confused. I thought his real family last saw him in December 1974. Now I have seen a reference to June and December 1978. I agree with Bessie. I think we need to go back to links.

Here's one article that states LE is looking for his whereabouts between 1974 when he visited his family in Arizona and the late 70s when he arrived in NH. I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER ARTICLES THAT ARE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT IT BEING CHRISTMAS. BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY 1974 not 1978.

Sorry, the all-caps is unintentional.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/08/...s-allenstown-new-hampshire-bodies-in-barrels/
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Sorry this Dec 1978 thing is all my bad. my posts got deleted since I didn't source, but my sources list family members of Terry's and I didn't want to expose their names since some are still living.

My point was if he went to his brother's funeral then this would have been the last time he was seen as Terry; however, It is possible he wasn't aware about his death. His wife and children haven't seen him since 1974, but would this also include his immediate family?

The last he was heard from as Terry Rasmussen that we know of was in 1978 when he contacts a friend in Arizona. Makes me wonder if he contacted anyone else for money.
  • 1978 June RASMUSSEN works for the “Brown & Root” Company (currently KBR)
    in Houston, TX. Record indicates RASMUSSEN “quit to work
    elsewhere.”
  • 1978 RASMUSSEN contacts friend in Arizona and asks for money. He states
    he is in Texas working on an oil rig.
  • 1978 September 28 Divorce finalized. RASMUSSEN’s whereabouts unknown.

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Gardener1850 said:
I thought we had previously been asked by mods to stop discussing the brother, since the brother's death has never been mentioned in any current articles in relation to this case. However, if we are allowed to discuss, I DO want to say that I think it would be fairly easy for LE to determine if TR traveled to Hawaii at any time after his family saw him last.

As to the last contact/last seen confusion-- maybe this timeline will help clear things up (BBM):

http://www.unionleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20170818/NEWS03/170819310/1006
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One thing we have to be weary of is conflicting info in the MSM.

Here, it states he contacted friends in June of 1978.
http://www.unionleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20170818/NEWS03/170819310/1006

But here, it states that in June of 1978 he was working for Brown & Root and only gives a general year as for when he contacted friends in 1978.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...r-rasmussen/2xp4x8zrnS9QuFSgAoV0FM/story.html

Finally, the NHDOJ never references him contacting friends in a specific month on their site. Doing so in your post is erroneous, unless you have additional facts above and beyond the NHDOJ.
https://www.doj.nh.gov/media-center/press-releases/2017/documents/20170818-attachment-a.pdf

I don't know if anything can be gleaned from where the NHDOJ slotted this event in their timeline. If they feel this is between him leaving his oil rig job and his divorce they haven't clarified that publically.
 
Piknik said:
One thing we have to be weary of is conflicting info in the MSM.

Here, it states he contacted friends in June of 1978.
http://www.unionleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20170818/NEWS03/170819310/1006

But here, it states that in June of 1978 he was working for Brown & Root and only gives a general year as for when he contacted friends in 1978.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...r-rasmussen/2xp4x8zrnS9QuFSgAoV0FM/story.html

Finally, the NHDOJ never references him contacting friends in a specific month on their site. Doing so in your post is erroneous, unless you have additional facts above and beyond the NHDOJ.
https://www.doj.nh.gov/media-center/press-releases/2017/documents/20170818-attachment-a.pdf

I don't know if anything can be gleaned from where the NHDOJ slotted this event in their timeline. If they feel this is between him leaving his oil rig job and his divorce they haven't clarified that publically.
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It looks like a news source MAY have conflated the two events of 1978 and added June to their timeline in front of the wrong one. All I did is quote the timeline put out by a media source to clarify where previous posters could have seen a reference to June of 1978. Last I checked, media sources were allowed and considered mostly factual (sometimes they do get it wrong, but if we can't discuss what the media reports we would have very little to discuss!). I can accept the premise that the media might have made an error, but I don't appreciate being told that I'm spreading false information for merely quoting a valid media source.
 
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