Australia - Josh Warneke, 21, beaten to death, Broome, WA, 26 Feb 2010

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Xyz said:
Hi CV,
So about the number plates ... police describe them as 'novelty plates' ... does this mean they were the off-the-shelf plates you'd buy from a shop, or (what I would call) 'personalized plates' that are official, legal plates?

1. I would think the former, but I've never seen anyone actually put those type of plates on a car. More often hung in a bar or teenager's bedroom wall etc! If they WERE put on a car, where could they go? Surely you wouldn't put them on in place of the official plates, that's inviting trouble!

2. If they were official but personalized plates, there was a car with plates that had some reference to Bundy (I won't write exactly what because it may be too identifying) in Derby. On a different model car I'm pretty sure. But police would have explored that wouldn't they? I mean, the first thing they'd do is search registration records for anything similar in the area right?

When police released the info about the plates it just seemed odd to me
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Xyz,

As far as I know that's the style of a personalized number plate. Like the football ones.
 
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-22/josh-warneke-murder-investigation-ute-lead/8973976

The police say the Toyota series 79 land cruiser is a "fresh" lead in the Josh Warneke case. The case was only opened again in April 2017 after Gene Gibson was released from prison. While Gene Gibson was incarcerated I presume the case was thought to be solved so there wouldn't have been any more investigating by the police. Was the Toyota Land Cruiser only brought to the police attention this year? MOO
 
Annalise said:
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-22/josh-warneke-murder-investigation-ute-lead/8973976

Seems like it could be someone from out of town. They see a man walking alone on a roadway and decide to stop and beat him up. Maybe thought he was someone else they had been arguing with earlier. It doesn't seem like Josh had caused any fights with anyone. He bought a burger and walked towards home. Not provoking anyone or asking for trouble. The white Toyota '79 land cruiser with the novelty plates was seen to stop near Josh. Obviously there was something in that. Can't understand why the owner of the Toyota wasn't found. Perhaps the police didn't get the information on the ute until recently. That would give the owner of the ute time to dispose of it. MOO
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A-L, It doesn't say it (the vehicle) stopped near Josh,
Just that it was seen in area around the time.

"They want to find the owner of a white Toyota '79 series Land Cruiser tray top ute that was seen not far from where Mr Warneke's body was found in February 2010.
Snip..
Acting Detective Superintendent Pete Branchi from the Special Crime Division said the Land Cruiser drove along Short Street into Old Broome Road around the time of the 21-year-olds' death in the early hours of February 26th."

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-22/josh-warneke-murder-investigation-ute-lead/8973976
 
Bohemian said:
Josh Warneke: Police chase new lead in cold case Broome murder
ABC News
GRAEME POWELL
UPDATED 55 MINUTES AGO
(as at 12:56 AEST 22 September 2017)

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PHOTO Police said the vehicle had a "Bundy" novelty licence plate.
SUPPLIED: WA POLICE


‘Police from the Cold Case Homicide squad are chasing a fresh lead into the murder of Josh Warneke on the outskirts of Broome more than seven years ago.

They want to find the owner of a white Toyota '79 series Land Cruiser tray top ute that was seen not far from where Mr Warneke's body was found in February 2010.

Police say the vehicle had a "Bundy" novelty number plate and car flag poles on either side of the frame behind the cab.Acting Detective

Superintendent Pete Branchi from the Special Crime Division said the Land Cruiser drove along Short Street into Old Broome Road around the time of the 21-year-olds' death in the early hours of February 26.

“Despite all the publicity about this case since 2010, the driver of the Land Cruiser has never come forward, " he said.

“We are appealing for public assistance to identify the vehicle, its driver and any other occupants."’


Read more at:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-22/josh-warneke-murder-investigation-ute-lead/8973976
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The picture that I see of the White 79 series Toyota Landcruiser single cab is that it does not have a airflow snorkle which seems to be quite common when you google Toyota Landcruiser 79 series. I wonder if this 79 series was used more for on road rather than off road as it seems to assist with 4 wheel driving airflow and longevity of the car. The car seems to have a lot of specifics about it. The Bundy number plate, the flag poles.

http://www.atecoequipment.com.au/ve...flow-snorkel-for-landcruiser-75-78-79-series/

The license plates of some 4 wheel drives have the back plates as being to the left or right rather than the middle. Moreso on the ones with doors on the back, they have a fake plate that has the brand on it. Possibly the bundy plate was in the middle at the back. I assume if someone has identified that it is a bundy plate that the police know what the plate actually said but are keeping it secret in case someone comes forward to validate it.
 
A couple MSM from 2010.
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/h...ed-light-on-broome-murder-20100805-11iy2.html

https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/murdered-mans-family-count-on-re-enactment-ng-ya-203361

There was a re-enactment done with a channel 7 cameraman Stephen Shepherd who looked remarkably like Josh.

"Mr Warneke, 21, was found dead with massive head injuries by a taxi driver on the side of the Old Broome Road on February 26 after a night out with friends at the Oasis Bar, Roebuck Bay Hotel and Bungalow Bar on Dampier Terrace."

"It reveals fresh information including that a driver bought food for Mr Warneke from a McDonald#39;s drive-through after he was refused service because he was on foot.Mr Warneke had also taken off his shirt and tucked it into his shorts as he walked along the Old Broome Road on the steamy night, just minutes before his death."

I have read through several newspapers from 2010 via factiva and cannot see any mention of the toyota landcruiser at that time.

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/mothers-passionate-plea-for-justice-on-oneyear-murder-anniversary-20110224-1b70t.html

 
Xyz said:
Apologies I posted this before I realised it was discussed earlier today. My question stands though - are the police talking about official personalized plates (doubtful - these should be traceable) or store-bought plates (in which case, is it usual to put these on a vehicle? Where?)
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Cops said novelty number plates, so I think CV has posted a good example. They would have been able to trace personalised number plates.
 
meticulously said:
"They want to find the owner of a white Toyota '79 series Land Cruiser tray top ute that was seen not far from where Mr Warneke's body was found in February 2010.

Police say the vehicle had a "Bundy" novelty number plate and car flag poles on either side of the frame behind the cab.

Acting Detective Superintendent Pete Branchi from the Special Crime Division said the Land Cruiser drove along Short Street into Old Broome Road around the time of the 21-year-olds' death in the early hours of February 26.

"Despite all the publicity about this case since 2010, the driver of the Land Cruiser has never come forward, " he said.

"We are appealing for public assistance to identify the vehicle, its driver and any other occupants."

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...er-investigation-ute-lead/8973976?pfmredir=sm
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They don't actually say they asked for the driver with Bundy number plates to come forward at the time. Just, despite all the publicity the driver hasn't come forward. They had other suspect or suspects they were concentrating on.

I know keen 4 WD people who went to live in Broome 4 months after Josh's attack and never saw any Bundy plates then. It's a thing local 4 W drivers would remember. I hope cops had looked at all the vehicles on the movie sets, as they would be likely come to town or possibly someone passing through.
 
DRT said:
A couple more additional posts. One mentions "Detectives are trying to find the drivers of a prime mover with a semi-trailer attached and what is believed to be a white Toyota Hilux."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-03-19/roadside-death-triggers-search-for-vehicles/371164

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-03-01/death-in-broome-a-possible-homicide/346122
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That's hardly the distinctive white Toyota Hilux with Bundy novelty plates they only now asked about. Seven and a half years later!!
 
As you're all probably aware prior to being murdered Josh had been in a car accident. As a result of the car accident Josh had sustained a spinal injury.

I can only imagine how relieved Josh and his family felt after Josh had survived the car accident and grateful that the spinal injury didn't result in a permanent disability.

Does anyone know what happened with the car accident. My inquiry is, did Josh have an enemy he didn't know about? Could it be possible the car accident was a prior attempt on his life?

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...e1a3bc89b492/1378732362665/Tim+Warneke+p5.pdf

These are only my thoughts and opinions.
 
Canning Vale said:
As you're all probably aware prior to being murdered Josh had been in a car accident. As a result of the car accident Josh had sustained a spinal injury.

I can only imagine how relieved Josh and his family felt after Josh had survived the car accident and grateful that the spinal injury didn't result in a permanent disability.

Does anyone know what happened with the car accident. My inquiry is, did Josh have an enemy he didn't know about? Could it be possible the car accident was a prior attempt on his life?

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...e1a3bc89b492/1378732362665/Tim+Warneke+p5.pdf

These are only my thoughts and opinions.
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One thing to clarify - in the attached article (&a a few others in MSM) it reports Josh was found on the side of 'a deserted road'. I think the description is a bit misleading. It wasn't a bush track out of town. It was one of the main roads in Broome, running past the airport, and the main road from the highway into the center of Broome. If you were leaving the centre of Broome (or McDonalds!) to go home to several Broome suburbs (Djugun, Broome North, heading out of town to 12 mile, or leaving town) this is the road you would take. It was quite close to the centre of Broome where Josh had been (a few hundred meters), and just down the road from McDonalds. It was 'deserted' only because of the time of night. All roads in Broome are deserted to the same degree at that time.
 
Innerchild said:
That's hardly the distinctive white Toyota Hilux with Bundy novelty plates they only now asked about. Seven and a half years later!!
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If the type of vehicle was withheld from the public, was that done on purpose?

It seems such a strange thing to do, meaning, withholding from the public, the type of vehicle driven?

Did the police actually know who the driver of the vehicle was?
 
Twice in Broome WA, there have been two incidents. Sarah-Lee Davey (21) went missing in Jan 1997 and thirteen years later Josh Warneke was brutally murdered. It’s a relatively short distance from where Ms Davey was last seen in Saville St to where Josh was killed – near Old Broome Rd/Short St.

https://www.google.com.au/maps/dir/...ed918562a!2m2!1d122.2330421!2d-17.9667628!3e0

Note: Sarah-Lee went missing in Broome WA, two months before Ciara Glennon’s abduction.

Five months prior to Ms Davey’s disappearance Bradley Murdoch had gone to live in the Kimberley region (Aug 1996). That was almost five years before he shot dead Mr Falconio, the British backpacker whose body has never been found.

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&r...1153126.html&usg=AOvVaw2ybOks5VmGkTZAuNMWwshv

Sarah-Lee Davey 21 – An indigenous lady from Broome. There have been many "reported" sightings of Ms Davey since she was last seen alive on January 14, 1997, when she picked up a handbag from a house in Saville Street, Broome, where she had been staying for a few days, telling relatives she would return later. The car she was driving has never been found. KP

Josh Werneke 21 – Josh was found dead by a road in Broome in February 2010, having suffered massive head injuries while walking home from a night out with friends. ABC.news
 
Canning Vale said:
Twice in Broome WA, there have been two incidents. Sarah-Lee Davey (21) went missing in Jan 1997 and thirteen years later Josh Warneke was brutally murdered. It’s a relatively short distance from where Ms Davey was last seen in Saville St to where Josh was killed – near Old Broome Rd/Short St.

https://www.google.com.au/maps/dir/...ed918562a!2m2!1d122.2330421!2d-17.9667628!3e0

Note: Sarah-Lee went missing in Broome WA, two months before Ciara Glennon’s abduction.

Five months prior to Ms Davey’s disappearance Bradley Murdoch had gone to live in the Kimberley region (Aug 1996). That was almost five years before he shot dead Mr Falconio, the British backpacker whose body has never been found.

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&r...1153126.html&usg=AOvVaw2ybOks5VmGkTZAuNMWwshv

Sarah-Lee Davey 21 – An indigenous lady from Broome. There have been many "reported" sightings of Ms Davey since she was last seen alive on January 14, 1997, when she picked up a handbag from a house in Saville Street, Broome, where she had been staying for a few days, telling relatives she would return later. The car she was driving has never been found. KP

Josh Werneke 21 – Josh was found dead by a road in Broome in February 2010, having suffered massive head injuries while walking home from a night out with friends. ABC.news
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Sarah-Lee Davey was suspected to be a victim of Richard Dorrough.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-...rd-dorrough-behind-broome-womans-disa/7304038

Petronella Albert was another to go missing from the Broome area on 28 April 1999.
http://www.australianmissingpersonsregister.com/Petronella.htm
 
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