Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #21

lwsk said:

Strange considering that he never spoke while committing the crimes. But then calls.

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lwsk said:

I thought BRE lived with his parents and wife too. Or was it his 2nd partner b4 the acton ave address

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Jackman said:

Note: A question mark (?) denotes approximate date range.

BRE was married quite young, living with his first wife in their purchased home at Fountain Way, Huntingdale – short distance from his parents Gay St acreage. From what we know the marriage broke up (1995/96??) and BRE remained, within the Fountain Way home which was sold in early April 1997 – CGs body was located within a day of that time.

BRE moved back in with his parents who were still living at Gay St (Apr 1997?). Although he resided with his parents we don’t know if he temporarily house-sat elsewhere or stayed with relatives, colleagues or friends.

At some stage he met the second wife, which may have been possibly 1998??. She had a young daughter and they all moved into the purchased home at Acton Ave – about 2000.

The parents sold the Gay St property about 2002 and was subdivided about 2004.

Encouragement to correct me if I’m wrong!

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MRichards said:

Did Ross fabricate? We cant even trust yhe media.

Was there conclusion that Ross had picked Spiers?

Did someone familiarise the night before then used that face to face offer a lift the next night?

The landlord in Sarahs flats saw Sarah get in a lift with a tall man with dark hair and chiselled features.

Steven Ross (43), of Irwin Road, Embleton, told the POST this week the police should be looking for a fellow passenger, a man who had shared the taxi with Ms Spiers. Mr Ross said the man did not appear to know her. Mr Ross said another woman, also a stranger, had "doubled up" in the cab that night. Mr Ross said he dropped the second woman in Dalkeith. He said that she had never come forward. He said that after dropping the woman, he had taken the man and Ms Spiers to the Windsor Hotel, in South Perth. The man had pushed Ms Spiers out of the cab then paid the fare. "I think he came back to Claremont the next night, found her and killed her," Mr Ross said.

https://au.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/aussiecrime/conversations/topics/34

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MRichards said:

As per link just posted today and yesterday

You cant be wrong if you use the media article in that link media source

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Canning Vale said:

Is anyone aware if Ogdens Bar & Grill operated at 535 Stirling Hwy back in 1996/1997?– within the Albion Hotel, Cottesloe. Ogdens had several restaurants whereby we cooked our own steaks.

There were also restaurants within the Windsor Hotel, South Perth and Gosnells Hotel.

Any ideas who the security company may have been?

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=ogdens+bar+and+grill+cottesloe

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lampformypath said:

Hi MRichards, further to the above and using a media article link. I was just re-reading this article from Women's Weekly and it mentions forensic evidence indicating JR's throat was cut? Also about JR having drinks with her Mum at the pub her Mum worked at prior to going out that night.

QUOTE (JR's Mum Jenny and NSW Police Detective, Kris Illingsworth) :

“On that night, I shared a quick drink with Janie at the hotel where I worked before she went off to party with her friends. My last words to her were, ‘Be careful. Be happy. Stay safe’.”

"Kris believes Jane’s nakedness reveals this was definitely a sexually motivated homicide, but that they weren’t in a close relationship.“Jane willingly got into his vehicle and was prepared to go to another location with him, most likely for a consensual sexual encounter. But the post-mortem showed that, most likely, her throat had been cut, but there was no property found with her body. Did anyone find items of clothing around that time that they couldn’t identify?”
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https://www.pressreader.com/australia/the-australian-womens-weekly/20160601/281513635356758

I've previously posted an article that said Jane's parents could take comfort in knowing she was not sexually assaulted? And articles that say the police will not divulge how the girls were murdered? Also, what hotel did JR's Mum work at? Is this a link that connects JR and CG (and maybe also SS?)? Perhaps they all had drinks at that particular hotel before they went on with friends to the other venues and were followed by the CSK who could then "bump into them" again and offer them a lift?

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lampformypath said:

Hi MRichards, further to the above and using a media article link. I was just re-reading this article from Women's Weekly and it mentions forensic evidence indicating JR's throat was cut? Also about JR having drinks with her Mum at the pub her Mum worked at prior to going out that night.

QUOTE (JR's Mum Jenny and NSW Police Detective, Kris Illingsworth) :

“On that night, I shared a quick drink with Janie at the hotel where I worked before she went off to party with her friends. My last words to her were, ‘Be careful. Be happy. Stay safe’.”

[FONT=&amp]"Kris believes Jane’s nakedness reveals this was definitely a sexually motivated homicide, but that they weren’t in a close relationship.[/FONT][FONT=&amp]“Jane willingly got into his vehicle and was prepared to go to another location with him, most likely for a consensual sexual encounter. But the post-mortem showed that, most likely, her throat had been cut, but there was no property found with her body. Did anyone find items of clothing around that time that they couldn’t identify?”[/FONT]​

https://www.pressreader.com/australia/the-australian-womens-weekly/20160601/281513635356758

I've previously posted an article that said Jane's parents could take comfort in knowing she was not sexually assaulted? And articles that say the police will not divulge how the girls were murdered? Also, what hotel did JR's Mum work at? Is this a link that connects JR and CG (and maybe also SS?)? Perhaps they all had drinks at that particular hotel before they went on with friends to the other venues and were followed by the CSK who could then "bump into them" again and offer them a lift?

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Jackman said:

Is anyone aware which hotel JennyR worked in? Could it have been the Albion Hotel, Stirling Hwy, Claremont. There's been mention beforehand of the Ogden's Bar and Grill restaurants at Gosnells, South Perth & Claremont.

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lampformypath said:

Hi MRichards, further to the above and using a media article link. I was just re-reading this article from Women's Weekly and it mentions forensic evidence indicating JR's throat was cut? Also about JR having drinks with her Mum at the pub her Mum worked at prior to going out that night.

QUOTE (JR's Mum Jenny and NSW Police Detective, Kris Illingsworth) :

“On that night, I shared a quick drink with Janie at the hotel where I worked before she went off to party with her friends. My last words to her were, ‘Be careful. Be happy. Stay safe’.”

[FONT=&amp]"Kris believes Jane’s nakedness reveals this was definitely a sexually motivated homicide, but that they weren’t in a close relationship.[/FONT][FONT=&amp]“Jane willingly got into his vehicle and was prepared to go to another location with him, most likely for a consensual sexual encounter. But the post-mortem showed that, most likely, her throat had been cut, but there was no property found with her body. Did anyone find items of clothing around that time that they couldn’t identify?”[/FONT]​

https://www.pressreader.com/australia/the-australian-womens-weekly/20160601/281513635356758

I've previously posted an article that said Jane's parents could take comfort in knowing she was not sexually assaulted? And articles that say the police will not divulge how the girls were murdered? Also, what hotel did JR's Mum work at? Is this a link that connects JR and CG (and maybe also SS?)? Perhaps they all had drinks at that particular hotel before they went on with friends to the other venues and were followed by the CSK who could then "bump into them" again and offer them a lift?

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MRichards said:

Dont quote me but I think the pub was in Shenton park that Jenny Rimmer worked.

The Rimmers also livrd in Shenton Park.

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Annalise said:

Hi Marylouise 911 - could it be possible that she provided information to the police and was put into the police protection program. That’s one way a person’s id is wiped. Given a new name and id. MOO


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Marylouise911 said:

I think it is quite telling that right from the day of arrest there has been absolutely no digital trace of EE. Her name is unique, Perth is small, she has clearly been in Australia for almost 30 years, yet there is nothing online at all.

She may have just been "anti-technology". I have a family member who is in his 60s and doesn't have email or any kind of online presence and chooses that lifestyle, so it is plausable.

But... To not even have a picture? Or anyone known to her, verify her existance other than the media interview as mentioned above and a colleague possibly taking a lift from her and the accused.

IMO I think she may be a key witness to the case.

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Jackman said:

Perhaps EE has changed her name. If that's the case perhaps her single name or something completely different. Changing Christian name

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