TX - League City - Audrey Lee Cook and Donna Prudhomme, in "killing field", 1986/1991

flyerj-2.jpg
flyerj-1.jpg

http://www.lrcf.net/missing/jane.janet.doe/flyerj-2.html
http://www.lrcf.net/missing/jane.janet.doe/flyerj-1.html

High probability both were murdered by the same person/persons.
But what I find interesting is both showed signs of "OLD HEALED FRACTURES"of the ribs. And both estimated to have been there about the same amount of time.

I wonder if these two could have been abducted together on the same day at the same place?
And buried at the field on the same day together.

Perhaps the old healed fractures are nothing more than a coincidence.






4429

Date LKA November 01, 1975 - 00:00

City Terlingua State Texas Zip code
County Brewster Circumstances Berry was last seen at the 'World Championship Chili Cookoff' near the Texas-Mexico border. Sometime between midnight and 8 a.m. November 2 she disappeared. She may have left the area on the back of a motorcycle with an unknown male subject. An extensive search of the area was performed, but Berry was not located. She has not been seen since.

I am not sure why i added this person right now.
But I have been looking at her and the composite for the last few days. I am not posting because she is the composite. I am posting her because she resembles the composite. And may have a connection to the composite and the killer. Maybe both killed by the same person though just guessing and speculating. He may have even driven her into Mexico on the motorcycle and she never returned. Don't know.
But those keys found between the victim and the lake.

I do wonder if any were keys for a motorcycle for my curiosity..
Just wanted to post this.

If anyone can enlarge the picture please do.
And there are some missing women at the above link that do resemble the composites i have seen listed here in the killing fields thread. If anyone wants to take a look.

Its a long way from Houston.
So its probably nothing.'
But the similarities are what caused me to post it.
Even though in
Phyllis Berry theirs no gap between the teeth.

 
Originally posted by
jwpmoyer

Police hope DNA can ID victims' remains

LEAGUE CITY, Texas, Nov. 7 (UPI) -- Authorities in a Texas town say they hope DNA can identify two women whose nude bodies were left in a field more than two decades ago by a serial killer.




http://www.chron.com/default/article/Hopes-rise-for-new-breaks-in-old-killing-fields-2255709.php

Another article another newspaper from 1172011

Waiting for the results.
 
https://identifyus.org/cases/4477
flyerj-2.jpg
1725


NOT Posting because its a possible.
Just posting because of the smile.
Not finding many missing with a large gap
between the front teeth.

So until the DNA comes back.
Ill post any I fine with that gap.
 
flyerj-2.jpg
flyerj-1.jpg

http://www.lrcf.net/missing/jane.janet.doe/flyerj-2.html
http://www.lrcf.net/missing/jane.janet.doe/flyerj-1.html

High probability both were murdered by the same person/persons.
But what I find interesting is both showed signs of "OLD HEALED FRACTURES"of the ribs. And both estimated to have been there about the same amount of time.

I wonder if these two could have been abducted together on the same day at the same place?
And buried at the field on the same day together.

Perhaps the old healed fractures are nothing more than a coincidence.








I kind of think it's not a coincidence, about the healed rib fractures. That seems to be a recurring detail, in the victims found. I played basketball, both on the street and in school, and never suffered broken ribs. None of the girls I know from cheerleading ever suffered broken ribs. It isn't a very common injury for young ladies.

A few cracked ribs will keep a victim from moving as fast and/or trying to resist. So, maybe they were kept somewhere and tortured before being killed and disposed of?
 
Thank you! That's a lot of years, isn't it? He must have done some serious crimes to accumulate that many years in our justice system. He definitely seems like a prime candidate...


I haven't studied serial killers, but I see your point. At the same time, usually serial killers tend to escalate in their crimes: starting out with robberies, sexual assaults, peeping toms, etc. Then they move onto the bigger crimes. One thing in favor of the idea of Mark Stalling being the serial killer is that his prior crimes would have been esponged from his juvenile record, since he would have been under 18...

Stallings would have been 17 when the first killing fields victims disappeared. Even though he confessed, he's not considered a serious suspect. Just a jailhouse confession.

He was given 489 years for aggravated assault and attempted escape. I'm assuming had he stayed put and done his time, he'd be out by now!
 
flyerj-2.jpg
flyerj-1.jpg

http://www.lrcf.net/missing/jane.janet.doe/flyerj-2.html
http://www.lrcf.net/missing/jane.janet.doe/flyerj-1.html

High probability both were murdered by the same person/persons.
But what I find interesting is both showed signs of "OLD HEALED FRACTURES"of the ribs. And both estimated to have been there about the same amount of time.

I wonder if these two could have been abducted together on the same day at the same place?
And buried at the field on the same day together.

Perhaps the old healed fractures are nothing more than a coincidence.







The one on the left was found in 1986, the one on the right was found in 1991 - both had been dead between 4-6 months, so there is no way they were abducted and killed together - and none were "buried". They were laid out naked, with their arms crossed beneath trees.
 
The one on the left was found in 1986, the one on the right was found in 1991 - both had been dead between 4-6 months, so there is no way they were abducted and killed together - and none were "buried". They were laid out naked, with their arms crossed beneath trees.

Yes. I was lost in the field when i posted that.
But it was to late to edit or delete it.
Saddest part is I knew that before I posted it.
So I don't know why I did.
 
Yes. I was lost in the field when i posted that.
But it was to late to edit or delete it.
Saddest part is I knew that before I posted it.
So I don't know why I did.
In the future, don't hesitate to pm me or one of the other forum mods if something like that happens again. I'll be glad to edit for you. I've done that before, myself, and had to ask a mod to come to my rescue. It happens. :)
 
I kind of think it's not a coincidence, about the healed rib fractures. That seems to be a recurring detail, in the victims found. I played basketball, both on the street and in school, and never suffered broken ribs. None of the girls I know from cheerleading ever suffered broken ribs. It isn't a very common injury for young ladies.

A few cracked ribs will keep a victim from moving as fast and/or trying to resist. So, maybe they were kept somewhere and tortured before being killed and disposed of?

I totally agree. We are seeing a lot of healed ribs. It does make you move a lot slower and would definitely stop someone from running away.
 
Here's a comparison. Peggy disappeared in 1981 at age 18. Jane Doe located in 1986 estimated age around 25.

The Doe Network:
Case File 35UFTX
NamUs MP # 1307 Peggy Houser
35UFTX.jpg
1724



35UFTX1.jpg
1725


Jane Doe
•Estimated age: Circa 25 years old
•Approximate Height and Weight: 5'5" - 5'8"; 140 - 160 lbs.

Case Information
Status Missing
First name Peggy
Middle name Sue
Last name Houser
Nickname/Alias
Date LKA June 14, 1981 - 00:00
Date entered December 12, 2008
Age LKA 18 to years old
Age now 49 years old
Race White
Ethnicity
Sex Female
Height 65.0 inches
Weight 115.0 pounds
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/35uftx.html

https://identifyus.org/cases/4477
 
:+:MrTT:+: These do pretty close to me

The Jane Doe was listed as having reddish brown hair. If you look at the color photo of Peggy it has an auburn color to it. The gap in the teeth look similar too. I see a lot of similarities.

Anyone else have any thought on this?
 
:+:MrTT:+: These do pretty close to me

The Jane Doe was listed as having reddish brown hair. If you look at the color photo of Peggy it has an auburn color to it. The gap in the teeth look similar too. I see a lot of similarities.

Anyone else have any thought on this?

Here is one whom came up missing in 82 while leaving Houston to go back home to Iowa.
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/2919/1

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/503dfia.html
Jane Doe in Namus https://identifyus.org/cases/4477

KDoss.jpg
35UFTX.jpg


Kimberly Sue Doss

Missing since September 27, 1982 from Davenport, Scott County, Iowa.

Classification: Involuntary

Vital Statistics

  • Date Of Birth: February 12, 1966
  • Age at Time of Disappearance: 16 years old
  • Height and Weight: 5'2; 120 - 125 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
  • Dentals: Available. She has a gap between her two front teeth.
  • AKA: Kimberly Kathleen Gardner
  • DNA: In Codis
Circumstances of Disappearance
Doss has not been seen since leaving Houston, Texas en route to her father's residence in Davenport, Iowa. on September 1, 1982.
She has never been heard from again.

Namus does not mention leaving from Texas last seen?
 
Here is one whom came up missing in 82 while leaving Houston to go back home to Iowa.
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/2919/1

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/503dfia.html
KDoss.jpg
35UFTX.jpg


Kimberly Sue Doss

Missing since September 27, 1982 from Davenport, Scott County, Iowa.

Classification: Involuntary

Vital Statistics

  • Date Of Birth: February 12, 1966
  • Age at Time of Disappearance: 16 years old
  • Height and Weight: 5'2; 120 - 125 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
  • Dentals: Available. She has a gap between her two front teeth.
  • AKA: Kimberly Kathleen Gardner
  • DNA: In Codis
Circumstances of Disappearance
Doss has not been seen since leaving Houston, Texas en route to her father's residence in Davenport, Iowa. on September 1, 1982.
She has never been heard from again.

Namus does not mention leaving from Texas last seen?

Case File 35UFTX

•Located on February 2, 1986 on Calder Road in League City, Galveston County, Texas.
•The victim had been shot.
•Estimated Date of Death: Six weeks to six months prior to recovery date.
•Skeletal Remains


I'm not sure about the 4 year difference. I just noticed the 5 year difference with Peggy.

I'm not sure how accurate they are with their dates but I doubt they are off by that much time.
 
Case File 35UFTX

•Located on February 2, 1986 on Calder Road in League City, Galveston County, Texas.
•The victim had been shot.
•Estimated Date of Death: Six weeks to six months prior to recovery date.
•Skeletal Remains


I'm not sure about the 4 year difference. I just noticed the 5 year difference with Peggy.

I'm not sure how accurate they are with their dates but I doubt they are off by that much time.

I was not implying she was killed soon after becoming missing.
I was thinking more she ran off or some other event occurred.
Maybe she lived for another 3 years or so after last seen coming out of Houston. If that story is correct.
 
I was not implying she was killed soon after becoming missing.
I was thinking more she ran off or some other event occurred.
Maybe she lived for another 3 years or so after last seen coming out of Houston. If that story is correct.

I guess anything is possible. We are seeing a lot of Jane Doe's with ribs having been broken prior to death. Makes you wonder what was going on. Were some of the girls/women held hostage and beaten or what?

You can't move very fast with broken ribs and they don't show. Makes you wonder.

Both these girls look similar to the Doe.
 
I guess anything is possible. We are seeing a lot of Jane Doe's with ribs having been broken prior to death. Makes you wonder what was going on. Were some of the girls/women held hostage and beaten or what?

You can't move very fast with broken ribs and they don't show. Makes you wonder.

Both these girls look similar to the Doe.

So many with these broken ribs.
Does make me wonder because I have not read any medical reason or excuse why so many victims seem to have broken ribs.

What I try to do as in this Jane doe case.
They said six months. So I look and try to find someone reported missing around that time. Six Months. Which would mean if there was a match the chances are hi they were taken and killed quick.

If I have to keep going future passed the six months to find someone reported missing fitting the description of the Jane doe. Then the further i go back could mean they were kept alive for a period of time, before being murdered and then dumped and found six months after the killing.

Does that make sense?
Or maybe I am confused.
This is new to me.
 
I added several more UID's to the UID reference thread today. Haven't had time to get them out by year. These are newer more recent. I hope to have them in the correct years by tomorrow.

We are also working on the COD threads in case you're interested.
 
So many with these broken ribs.
Does make me wonder because I have not read any medical reason or excuse why so many victims seem to have broken ribs.

What I try to do as in this Jane doe case.
They said six months. So I look and try to find someone reported missing around that time. Six Months. Which would mean if there was a match the chances are hi they were taken and killed quick.

If I have to keep going future passed the six months to find someone reported missing fitting the description of the Jane doe. Then the further i go back could mean they were kept alive for a period of time, before being murdered and then dumped and found six months after the killing.

Does that make sense?
Or maybe I am confused.
This is new to me.

It makes a lot of sense to me. Some Perps choose a certain type girl and a certain age range. When she ages out he kills her. This is not uncommon and could very well be the case.

Like you I look at the dates and as long as the victim went missing prior to the Doe being found and its within a few years I consider the possibility.

A perp might want a girl between 18 and 22. When she ages out or looks too old he kills her. So these are possibilites.

Jaycee Dugard was held for a long time. He had killed girls prior to her. It is very unusual that he kept her alive that long. She was smart and lived.

Most perps of this type don't keep them alive past a few years. jmo
 

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
103
Guests online
2,452
Total visitors
2,555

Forum statistics

Threads
590,003
Messages
17,928,882
Members
228,037
Latest member
shmoozie
Back
Top