Mexico Mexico - Jenny Chen, 26, Oaxaca, 11 April 2016 #3

GigTu said:

If Jenny is with someone she met along her way, I doubt that person will be any easier to find than Jenny. I'm curious, why did Jenny choose that as her American name? What does it mean to her?

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rosesfromangels said:

Several of my chinese national friends have told me their english (to speak english) teachers pick their names.

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AffirmationChick said:

Southlanecherry, out of curiosity, do you have any speculation on why there may have been the random uptick in donations from those with Chinese names? Anything in the media or something else that wouldn't come up in an English search? Hearing you talk about the less-than-warm feelings toward Jenny in her home country makes it more perplexing.


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southlanecherry said:

I don't think these donations come from people in China. They are mostly likely from Chinese Americans in the States. The reason I say this is that facebook is not easily accessible in China (unless you install VPN and pay a monthly fee to access all censored sites) so the locals wouldn't know about JR asking for donations. Also, is all in English and accepts only USD? (correct me if I'm wrong), which just creates more difficulties for Chinese locals to donate via this site.

If you follow Yingying Zhang's case, her donations come from two sources 1) , which is set up for donors in America; 2) 轻松筹 (easy donations), which is a Chinese donation site set up for donations from China.

The only think I can think of right now is that due to the high profile of Yingying Zhang's case, the Chinese American community became aware of other cases involving Chinese girls gone missing, which explains the surge of donations.

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Lilibet said:

It's confusing because JR said he was grateful for donations from the "Chinese and Chinese American community." We're used to JR being confusing , but says people from all over the world can donate using a major credit card.

https://support..com/hc/en-us/articles/203604354-Can-my-international-friends-donate-to-my-campaign-

That doesn't explain how people in China would clear the other hurdles you mention...no FB and the language barrier. But I do notice that some of the members of HFJ appear to live in China, so perhaps they are paying the monthly fee you mentioned. When I was researching the Chinese couple whose car went into the river near King's Canyon in CA last month, there were lots of Chinese on FB who live in China, including the wife who died.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...inan-Wang-31-Sequoia-National-Park-6-Aug-2017

When the donations started suddenly and rapidly increasing I wondered if someone Chinese who was close to Jenny was spearheading a campaign by sharing the story (translated?) and the with friends in the U.S. and China and perhaps Mexico. One of life's little mysteries!

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southlanecherry said:

But, how can JR even tell which one donation is from Chinese locals or Chinese Americans? :thinking:

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southlanecherry said:

But, how can JR even tell which one donation is from Chinese locals or Chinese Americans? :thinking:

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cbeagle said:

I just don't get the secrecy about where she might have been seen.

Why not just say she might have been seen at ____ in Feb, please get the word out to folks you know in that area for similar sightings.

I'm also not sure how a potential sighting around seven months ago narrows down a search, she could have moved on to anywhere.

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southlanecherry said:

I just spent some time looking for possible recent news about Jenny's chase in Chinese media and unfortunately there still is nothin . But I came across the news article about the Embassy reporting possible sighting of Jenny in late May 2016. After re-reading it, I remembered the suspicion I had last year when I first read it, because the way it was written, everything just sounded so...."politically correct". I don't know how else I should put it so I translated a short paragraph from there:

此外，使馆还出资聘请了西语翻译，陪同陈某的父母在各地活动。经过多方排查，墨警方提供了令人鼓舞的信息，证明5月下旬陈某仍然在墨南部多地搭车旅行。得知情况后，陈某的家人倍感欣慰。使馆的搜寻工作也得到了墨西哥温州商会金加池会长和中华会馆霍红梅女士的大力协助，在此向他们表示感谢！

Translation: In addition, the embassy hired Spanish translators and accompanied Chen's parents to various regions. After conducting multiple investigations, the Mexican Police provided encouraging news, attesting that Chen was still hitchhiking in southern Mexico in late May. After receiving the news, Chen's parents were very happy and relieved. The search was assisted by Chairman Jia Chi Jin of Wenzhou Chamber of Commerce of Mexico and Chairman Hong Mei Huo from MexChina. The embassy would like to express their sincere gratitude towards them.
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I don't know if anyone was aware that the information that Jenny was still traveling in May was actually provided by Mexican police, not Chinese Embassy?

Jenny's parents felt "happy and relieved" after being told their daughter was still traveling in Mexico. Is that a natural reaction when you find out that your daughter has stopped all contact and gone off her itinerary in a country as dangerous as Mexico? Hm......

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Sjm_qc said:

Pure speculation: if this has anything to do with the trafficking theories, it could be that JR doesn't want to alert possible traffickers & have Jenny move on? Or he doesn't want to compromise Jenny's (or others') safety?

I can think of another reason or two, but they're not very TOS friendly...

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GigTu said:

If Jenny is with someone she met along her way, I doubt that person will be any easier to find than Jenny. I'm curious, why did Jenny choose that as her American name? What does it mean to her?

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Lilibet said:

It may have been chosen for her, but many chose their own. Here's a discussion of Anglo names Chinese use. It's pretty amusing at times.

http://ask.metafilter.com/187443/How-do-you-pick-your-Anglo-name

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rosesfromangels said:

Several of my chinese national friends have told me their english (to speak english) teachers pick their names.

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southlanecherry said:

Yes, you are right. When Chinese kids start taking English lessons at school, their English teacher usually gives them English names. This happened to me too. But many kids end up changing their names later to whatever they like, since it's not an official name and no legal document is bound to it. I ended up changing mine after I moved to the states for school.

I saw a vid on Jenny's facebook earlier. Her friend called her Jennifer instead of Jenny. I wonder what she really goes by in real life, Jennifer or Jenny?

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GigTu said:

If I recall, JR was Jenny's instructor, which is how they met. He then courted her (or she used him) and they came to America and married. Is that right?

If he named her and now she has run off from him, I'd bank on it that she took her power back and renamed herself. This of course, is assuming she is still alive and voluntarily living somewhere awa from JR.

I wonder what she'd name herself... assuming she is still in Mexico - because she loved it there.

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GigTu said:

If I recall, JR was Jenny's instructor, which is how they met. He then courted her (or she used him) and they came to America and married. Is that right?

If he named her and now she has run off from him, I'd bank on it that she took her power back and renamed herself. This of course, is assuming she is still alive and voluntarily living somewhere awa from JR.

I wonder what she'd name herself... assuming she is still in Mexico - because she loved it there.

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southlanecherry said:

Yes, you are right. When Chinese kids start taking English lessons at school, their English teacher usually gives them English names. This happened to me too. But many kids end up changing their names later to whatever they like, since it's not an official name and no legal document is bound to it. I ended up changing mine after I moved to the states for school.

I saw a vid on Jenny's facebook earlier. Her friend called her Jennifer instead of Jenny. I wonder what she really goes by in real life, Jennifer or Jenny?

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southlanecherry said:

I just spent some time looking for possible recent news about Jenny's chase in Chinese media and unfortunately there still is nothin . But I came across the news article about the Embassy reporting possible sighting of Jenny in late May 2016. After re-reading it, I remembered the suspicion I had last year when I first read it, because the way it was written, everything just sounded so...."politically correct". I don't know how else I should put it so I translated a short paragraph from there:

此外，使馆还出资聘请了西语翻译，陪同陈某的父母在各地活动。经过多方排查，墨警方提供了令人鼓舞的信息，证明5月下旬陈某仍然在墨南部多地搭车旅行。得知情况后，陈某的家人倍感欣慰。使馆的搜寻工作也得到了墨西哥温州商会金加池会长和中华会馆霍红梅女士的大力协助，在此向他们表示感谢！

Translation: In addition, the embassy hired Spanish translators and accompanied Chen's parents to various regions. After conducting multiple investigations, the Mexican Police provided encouraging news, attesting that Chen was still hitchhiking in southern Mexico in late May. After receiving the news, Chen's parents were very happy and relieved. The search was assisted by Chairman Jia Chi Jin of Wenzhou Chamber of Commerce of Mexico and Chairman Hong Mei Huo from MexChina. The embassy would like to express their sincere gratitude towards them.

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I don't know if anyone was aware that the information that Jenny was still traveling in May was actually provided by Mexican police, not Chinese Embassy?

Jenny's parents felt "happy and relieved" after being told their daughter was still traveling in Mexico. Is that a natural reaction when you find out that your daughter has stopped all contact and gone off her itinerary in a country as dangerous as Mexico? Hm......

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According to this page, her husband is offering 50,000 pesos in reward money.

50,000 pesos is $2,726.67

http://www.nvinoticias.com/nota/8660...a-desaparecida

it also goes on to say (through Google translate):

... cameras caught Jenny Chen, at 10:17 am on Monday, April 11 against the Peppa Pig cafe where [she] exchanged words with a man and then continued on his way towards Administrative City on federal highway 190 Christopher Columbus in Tlalixtac jurisdiction of Cabrera.

[Jenny's husband] said the [Chinese] embassy does not support in the search for his wife, because she is in the United States with a permanent visa and despite being married dede ago three years, the procedures of nationalization just 70 percent advance.

The Chinese community in Oaxaca offer 120,000 pesos to support Jonathan on his trip to Mexico (?):
The Chinese community based in Oaxaca ...offered 120 thousand pesos for economic support for the pursuit of his compatriot situation thanked Jonathan Reinharel, and no doubt that the authorities of the Asian country as soon as they hear the news support Chen Qoudan finding, which has already invested $ 200,000, including per diem and private investigations.

It also appears that Jenny decided 3 weeks before the trip to go:
"Three weeks before starting the journey, suddenly he told me to take new decisions in his life had to be herself, and which would travel through Mexico to get to Cuba, stopping at several locations throughout the country, including Cancun them, where would for a few days with me, "explained Jonathan.

First I'm hearing this, she purchased a phone in Mexico but did not give Jonathan the number:
Arriving in Mexican territory, the woman who worked as a cashier and then took a year, bought a cell phone, but did not give the number to her husband and only communicated with him via social networks when found connections Wifi.

Something about a woman selling tamales:
The Chinese reported that traveled to Ocotlan de Morelos to know the life of a woman selling tamales and similarly Capulálpam Mendez was in the Sierra Norte. Meanwhile, the young man who stayed last time Jenny south of the city, said Chen said he decided to move house because the man who gave him asylum, "he said strange things and had very dirty house, even with rats. "

http://www.nvinoticias.com/nota/8660...a-desaparecida.

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GigTu said:

First I'm hearing this, she purchased a phone in Mexico but did not give Jonathan the number

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KaaBoom said:

Clear evidence of a woman trying to escape an abusive husband. She had no intention of meeting him, and didn't want him to be able to contact her. Judging from his conduct this last year and a half, I think she is a very smart woman, and she made the right decision, and that is why her family and friends are not concerned about her current whereabouts.

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