Hi, KPCrimeNY, there are prostitutes who are controlled by pimps, but Shannan certainly does not fit that bill. She handled her own calls, doled out the money, paid the rent, bought generous gifts for her family and friends, and was working on her exit strategy without apparent interference from her boyfriend, with whom she even went on movie dates. When her driver entered SG's house, he didn't strong-arm her to leave or force payment from the john; he sat down and tried to wait it out. By every account, Shannan was her own boss.
This is all a far cry from what I saw and have heard about traditional pimps. On my block, I saw some very dominant pimps who kept all the money their girls made, even searching their undergarments for stashed cash; and others who slapped them around for being lazy. Some streetwalkers who spoke little if any English seemed especially vulnerable.
As for your statement, about the coincidence of Shannan's disappearance and the four burlap-covered bodies, I think that you are right. On her manic run, Shannan was supercharged; by the time, she was overtaken by exhaustion and the realization that she was in the middle of nowhere without a ride home, she could have gone far. It's possible, as old resident Coletti suggested, she might have drowned in the jetties.
Bold 1: I hear what you are saying. But, to me that fits the bill of the street walking, enslaved, drug addicted (on purpose) and abused girls we hear about. ("prince" Jersey City) Anybody please, I am that wrong thinking that girls that are on CL or any one of the girls in this story can be controlled by pimps? I was reading about Massage Parlors on Backpage today. Are there not pimps in the process there when the money goes to the owner and the tip goes to the girl?
Bold 2: Besides the gifts which her family said and I believe. I have a hard time believing the rest coming from her ever so loving jaw breaking "boyfriend". When he is interviewed by the papers is he suppose to say something like "nah I don't lover her or miss her she was just one of the many girls I have making me money"?
Bold 3: I will use one of my favorite quotes from watching to much live coverage of the Caylee case. "Objection your honor. Hearsay!" SUPPOSEDLY he walks in the house and she is on the phone with 911 for some time now. Is he really going to start throwing her around the house? As for sitting it down and waiting it out. I have heard he tried and walked out and sat in the car until she took off running. Another though I have here, whether they are close or he is controlling wouldn't the most sense at this point have been to force her to the car and get the heck out of there? I do believe she may have had a good relationship with MP though. As for SG being the boss, I have yet to hear her quoted saying it so I'm not buying it. Every one of the people that have offered the info of that have everything to hide in my opinion.
Hi, GoatHairJones, Jersey City is a big city; one pimp does not control the entire town. And one would imagine that after being arrested, he would have had things on his mind other than killing a woman with whom he has no known connection. Constructing conpiracy theories is the easiest things on earth; you just have to add additional personnel.......
If this is "Prince" the guy I saw news about today I am thinking in my opinion there is no connection. Again, he seemed like streetwalking, typical pimp everyone thinks of. To me "pimp" in these cases seem more like managers.
And for me I just can't imagine SG being that close to those other bodies without there being some connection.
It does seem to be a very huge coincidence. I'm having trouble imagining they are not connected, too. I suppose it's possible. But probably unlikely, imo.
Redbird & Susan,
I will just lay out my opinions and why I am starting to lean that way.
1. Driver takes her to JB. SK picked girls up or got them to come alone.
(Unless the drifter exists or some other party that set her up that night I don't see why JB if SK would have her come to his house)
2. I have a hard time believing that a SK just got so lucky to find a CL prostitute running around that night after this scene.
3. 911 supposedly has her being dragged into vehicle. (MP sticks out here)
4. After SG two more went missing and their bodies were found with the other earlier two. I understand not putting SG where first two went if your the SK but, I don't understand returning with another two after the ruckus caused at JB's that night if you were there and the SK.
5. AGAIN, sorry to beat a dead horse (no pun) but, the NJ story just recently about the bag of trash in the pipeline in NJ City. The news reported police had wondered if it was the body of SG when they were notified. Why are the NJ police looking for a body connected to SK in Oak Beach in sewers of NJ City? I think also my opinion it is known that SG left OB in a vehicle that night. (I just saw a whole new scene in my head as typing this, a theory of sorts connecting the final call and videos missing from Gate)
6. I was kinda thinking that the most recent searches of OB were for more SK victims like the GB4. Also thinking that they may have been more of evidence searches as well.
Other notes:
Somebody in OB knows whats up as well as somewhere else NJ I believe. Hopefully the new reward gets somebody to speak up.
Also, I did some searching on Lace Party Girls the escort biz that SG, MP and boyfriend worked for. Easy searches on Google you can find the same I don't want to link inappropriate. First search brought me to a webiste where something about that company had been updated in the last two months? The website on the ad does not exist anymore. So I searched that same company name with Jersey City I believe. Wouldn't you know it existed. New website. With interesting note that they were not excepting any new clients. All seems fishy to me.