GUILTY Canada - Remains of 6 infants found, Andrea Giesbrecht charged, Winnipeg, Oct 2014

Here is a more precise account of what was found in the locker.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...l-locker-among-remains-of-6-infants-1.2950855

Also, in an earlier post I improperly suggested that she may have been running an illegal abortion business and I was corrected that abortions are not illegal. I knew that, but not everyone can perform them legally. Legal or not, for most people there is a stigma attached to the procedure, or at least some emotional scars, so it would not be surprising if that's what happened, she would not be broadcasting it.
 
Also even though abortions are legal in Canada it would be hard to find a medical Dr to do a late term abortion unless something is wrong with the fetus.
Here is a more precise account of what was found in the locker.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...l-locker-among-remains-of-6-infants-1.2950855

Also, in an earlier post I improperly suggested that she may have been running an illegal abortion business and I was corrected that abortions are not illegal. I knew that, but not everyone can perform them legally. Legal or not, for most people there is a stigma attached to the procedure, or at least some emotional scars, so it would not be surprising if that's what happened, she would not be broadcasting it.
 
I am wondering about the statement that"the identity of any of the parents has not been determined" I wonder if that is because there is not enough DNA or are the infants not hers ?


very chilling when I read those words......bbm

hopefully this will come out during/after the trial
 
I am wondering about the statement that"the identity of any of the parents has not been determined" I wonder if that is because there is not enough DNA or are the infants not hers ?

I'm taking that as the DNA says the infants aren't hers, but they don't have the DNA of anyone else who might be the mother(s).
 
I'm taking it differently. I think they were unable to obtain conclusive DNA to determine if she's the mother or not. To be honest, it's hard to think of a reason she would have possession of multiple dead infants of another mother (or mothers) It disgusts me that she can't be compelled in any way to offer a reasonable explanation, and therefore she faces a ridiculously puny charge.


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My assumption was that she ran a back room abortion operation for girls or women not wishing to go through the customary channels.
 
My assumption was that she ran a back room abortion operation for girls or women not wishing to go through the customary channels.

It would take a great deal of medical knowledge to perform abortions on such late term babies. Is there anything in her history to indicate she has that knowledge? I'm no medical expert, but I don't know how abortions could be performed on such late term infants that didn't involve a great deal of dismemberment (sorry to be so graphic), evidence of which should be clear upon forensic examination of the remains.

I say all this in my most humble opinion.


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I agree I also can not see the late abortion clinic. The comment about the identity of the parents came from her lawyer and as part of her conditions per the link she is not allowed to become pregnant so I assume the court believes she is the parent ?
It would take a great deal of medical knowledge to perform abortions on such late term babies. Is there anything in her history to indicate she has that knowledge? I'm no medical expert, but I don't know how abortions could be performed on such late term infants that didn't involve a great deal of dismemberment (sorry to be so graphic), evidence of which should be clear upon forensic examination of the remains.

I say all this in my most humble opinion.


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I can't think of a plausible scenario where she isn't the mother. And I agree, kdgdid, the condition about becoming pregnant indicates to me that the authorities believe her to be the mother, even if they can't prove it.
IMO


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It would be interesting to know what sex the fetuses' were as her 2 living children are teenage boys
 
From last month:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/fraud-trial-for-woman-charged-in-baby-case-311967941.html

Andrea Giesbrecht, who is facing six charges of concealing the remains of infants found in a storage locker last October, will go to trial on unrelated fraud charges...

The fraud charges against Giesbrecht involve Manitoba's Employment and Income Assistance, a payday loan business and a private individual...

In the case involving the six charges of concealing a body relating to the remains of the infants found in the storage locker, Giesbrecht is expected to go to trial in April 2016.
 
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/trial-...ocker-could-hinge-on-experts-lawyer-1.2862637

"A lawyer for a woman charged with concealing the remains of six infants in a storage locker says her upcoming trial is likely to hinge on whether the babies were born alive.
Andrea Giesbrecht's trial before a judge alone is to begin Monday. She was arrested in October 2014 shortly after the remains were discovered, but she has been on bail for a year.
Despite numerous pre-trial hearings, the ages of the infants or a reason for why they were put in the storage locker has never been revealed."
 

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