No offence taken at all. I feel the same but from the opposing side. Even if there was video footage of the whole crime, Avery supporters still wouldn't believe he is guilty. They would claim it is 2 cops dressed to look like Avery & Dassey.
This isn't a case where a changed witness statement or a comparison of DNA found at the scene not matching the accused is going to get him out.
Either physical proof of planting or pinning it on someone else will work. Either way it means jail time for someone else. I don't think Zellner (or any other lawyer) will do that.
Seriously, I've seen more moral outrage about Avery's dog and how her bones were put into a box than about what happened to Teresa that day. No malice intended, that is just how I feel.
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Sure, I would imagine there may be a few freak people who would claim conspiracy all the way down to the end. But from what I have seen on here, there aren't many of us pro-defense people here whatsoever. And I feel that many of us are far more troubled about the process here than anything else. If he they did it, great, but prove it the right way, because we feel they have not. We have grave concerns that the following happened:
1.) MCPD was allowed to be so involved in the investigation as to be responsible for finding all of the most compelling evidence in this case when they were supposed to be hands-off.
2.) We are concerned that these people responsible for this evidence were some of the very same people who were involved in keeping him in prison the first time and were being sued and/or deposed by Steven Avery in a $36 million civil suit
3.) We are deeply troubled at the fact that they pulled a learning impaired 16 year old boy out of school and interviewed him without a parent or lawyer present
4.) We are deeply troubled that the investigators seemed to spoon feed Branden the information and that BD appeared to be guessing most of the time and be clearly confused the entire time
5.) We are completely grossed out that the prosecutor in the case went on television with the narration of one of the most disgusting descriptions of a scene that played out in Avery's trailer that was only suitable to an audience over the age of 15.
6.) We are concerned that said prosecutor had been abusing drugs and sexually harassing the victims he was sworn to seek justice for - a clear indication that his integrity has absolutely no value
7.) We are concerned that the jury pool was able to see that report believing that Kratz was trustworthy man and that the information was true and was supported by evidence, which it was clearly not
8.) We are concerned that even though the trial was moved to a neutral county (actually the neighboring county where Teresa's family lived) yet the jury was pooled from Manitowoc County, and included 2-3 members with extremely close ties to the MCPD
9.) We are concerned with what the excused juror has to say about what was going on in the jury room and subsequent reports of what may very well have been vote trading within the deliberations
10.) We are concerned that no other individuals were investigated as possible suspects in any way, including her ex-boyfriend, her family, Zipperer, and an attempted axe-murderer who was on the property when the car was found
11.) We are concerned with the chain of custody of all of the evidence in the case is questionable - the key, the bullet, the RAV4, the blood, the bones
12.) We are concerned about the evidence that was clearly NOT there that really should have been there given the narrative portrayed by the prosecution
13.) We are concerned that BD was given a court-appointed lawyer who stated he felt his client did it to the press prior to ever meeting his client
14.) We are concerned that BDs attorney's investigator managed to get a confession from BD which included ridiculous drawings and a "check this box" format
15.) We are concerned that said prosecutor cried on the stand over the ribbon and that he wrote an e-mail stating that the entire Avery family tree needed to be cut down
16.) We are concerned about the way Teresa's cell phone records and password were obtained
17.) We are concerned about the fact that the judge in this case called Steven Avery the most dangerous man to ever step foot in his courtroom
18.) We are concerned that a man who had been previously wrongfully convicted and spent 18 years in prison for a crime he did not commit (yes I know about the assault on the cousin and the cat) wasn't treated with the least amount of respect nor the concept of innocent until proven guilty
19.) We are concerned about the fact that the Chief from the original case owned the competitive salvage yard and hated the Averys and would have benefited greatly from their business being destroyed
20.) As far as Teresa "resting in peace" many of us feel that the way her remains were handled, the chain of custody of the scene, etc...was the very opposite of respecting her. Putting her remains in a cardboard box and leaving them at the coroner's office??? We shouldn't be the ones being lectured about respecting her dignity.
21.) Finally, we are troubled that our system and our default is to consistently accept the finding of the jury with little to no desire to review the evidence, testimony and rationale of the case, even though we are well aware of just how often juries and courts can get it wrong - with the most glaring example being the very same man in this very case
So I disagree with you that the pro-defense people would believe him to be innocent even if it is proved that he and BD are guilty. But I don't think many of us would abandon any of these concerns either way. Guilty or not, each and every one of these concerns are still 100% relevant. And you may not think so because you feel as though this could never happen to you or any of your loved ones. And while I believe we do have the fairest system in the world, it doesn't mean it is perfect, because if it was, we wouldn't have so many innocent people sitting in prison, or God forbid, being executed. So I contend that the vast majority of us "pro-defense" people would definitely be willing to accept that they are both guilty of the crime, but that doesn't mean that this case doesn't contain a plethora of troubling and downright outrageous behavior by many of those involved in supposedly finding justice for Teresa Halbach.
