Found Safe TN - Mary Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, 15, Maury County, 13 March 2017 #7

Mountain_Kat said:

Well, I'm not exactly sure what the facts are regarding this. I don't know how many students we're talking about, how often this occurred, etc. etc. I do know that several teachers said they saw students in his classroom, but that the door was always open, so that didn't raise alarm bells for them. That said, and again, without knowing all the facts, I will say that my general first impression of this was that it didn't appear to me that Cummins exerted control over this situation of students hanging out in his class. I do agree with you, this should have been an issue that was taken up with Cummins LONG before the reported kiss. And perhaps it was, I don't know. But apparently, this went on for quite some time without anyone in a position of authority putting the breaks on it, so we certainly are in agree that that was an issue that should have been effectively addressed.

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JerseyGirl said:

My problem with the school is that they determined that there was no inappropriateness going on between Cummins and ET.

They said they investigated. If they investigated thoroughly, they would have found the delete emails that prove he was grooming her.

So what did they investigate? Ask a few kids and a few teachers about it and claim that nothing is going on? BS! The proof is everywhere, they just chose not to go through with it, I assume, since it was ET who the entire faculty accuses her of being a hussy.

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BessDrew said:

The school board is representative of the community so the community likely could hold an election to replace members. Ultimately if problems at a public school aren't addressed locally, it would be reported to local police and possibly the state department of education. People have also sued school districts for board decisions.

In my opinion, we would need more information on these teachers' specific responses before knowing if interventions are needed. In my experience, teachers often just go silent and try to stay out of it because they don't want to connect themselves to the teacher who has committed criminal acts.

So far, I know we have heard rumors they are purposefully not wearing green ribbons etc, but it's possible some are and some aren't. It's also possible their reasons for not doing so may not be agreement with Tad but related to classroom management, the emotional state of students who are having a hard time with this etc.


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Mountain_Kat said:

BBM

I think it's important to remember that these communications between TC and ET were done through deleted DRAFT emails. I'm not sure the school would have had the first clue about them existing, even if they had searched for them. Legally, I don't even know if they would have had the right to seize his computer based on one report of what one student thought she saw. I'm guessing not, but that's a question for someone in the legal field, certainly not me.

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Mountain_Kat said:

BBM

I think it's important to remember that these communications between TC and ET were done through deleted DRAFT emails. I'm not sure the school would have had the first clue about them existing, even if they had searched for them. Legally, I don't even know if they would have had the right to seize his computer based on one report of what one student thought she saw. I'm guessing not, but that's a question for someone in the legal field, certainly not me.

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KKearns said:

There were two students involved with the kiss, in fact the 2nd student went with the 1st to confront him.

I read in an article way back that 2nd TC's grandchild was also present with that kiss. The article I read said he was in the room, the media packet said student 2 was on some stairs and student 1 talked to student 2. I don't know if student 2 was the grandchild in the room or not.

I found student 1 directly confronting TC and asking what the relationship was to be very credible.

Also I don't think the minute this kiss was reported that the father was contacted. If he was not, that is a problem.

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KKearns said:

Without pulling up the packet again, it seems that ET's father wasn't informed immediately of the kiss allegation and when he did find out, no one really discussed with him according to the letter from the lawyer.

The second the kiss allegation happened, the father should have been called and brought in to a meeting at the school, if they didn't do that.

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BessDrew said:

At schools where I have worked, it has been made clear that computers are district property and that administration even had software that allowed them to review computer usage. So there is a possibility they could have legally, but the draft system they were using would've been difficult to detect in my mind...especially if they were erasing them after they were read. Even if an admin checked, there might not have been any draft messages at the time.


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KKearns said:

ET's sister has also said that some teachers have not been great with some of the sisters also. She didn't expound on what was said to them because she wasn't there.

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Mountain_Kat said:

Can you link a msm source for this info about the second student. That's been a source of confusion for me, and I can't recall where I initially read about that. Thanks.

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Coldpizza said:

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http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...zabeth-Thomas-15-Maury-County-13-March-2017-8

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