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Everyone ctf down. this same malware is on another forum F-16.net. if you google the last part of the nefarious url you can find another poster complaining. he's from Australia also. so yeah don't click on anything that wants you to update flash, never click on a .exe I highly doubt any posters from here initiated this malware so stop laying the blame at members here.
 
I am sure The GOOD LT can add very well. The problem might be is they took his 'calculator' away from him. He might be a lot smarter than most people think. A lot of people are starting to get it out there and seem to doing CYA's.
 
YEAH, thanks! If only I read this 10 minutes earlier.
 
I've been reading the posts that try to connect the male victims to the female victims, and I just don't see it. The OB male was bludgeoned. Sugar Bear was shot and decapitated. Other male victims were beaten and dumped. The MOs are wildly different, IMO, especially compared to the GB4.

The GB4 is one killer. Maybe the Manorville victims are related but maybe they're not. But I have a hard time connecting the males (with the possible exception of the bludgeoned OB male) to the GB4.

Of course, I'm willing to be convinced otherwise. But I wanted to offer another possible explanation: The NYC metro area is filled with crime and criminals.

This 2011 NYT article specifically addresses the fact that no less than 3 SKs were operating on LI in recent years: Rifkin, Shulman, and LISK, plus the Gormley dude you'll see below. (And now the number of SKs is 4+ with the addition of Bittrolff.) What's more is that all three SKs targeted prostitutes.

Scott Bonn, a serial-killer researcher and assistant professor of sociology at Drew University in New Jersey, said the explanation was simple. Because serial killers often prefer to live in densely populated areas — for easy access to potential victims — it is not a surprise that three of them who specialized in sex workers had turned up over two decades in a place with a population of 2.8 million. “The odds that you would have these three guys in rural Mississippi in that time period are far less likely than in a densely populated area like Long Island,” he said...

...The Rifkin and Shulman cases, it turns out, shared strange coincidences: Mr. Rifkin and Mr. Shulman lived a few miles from one another, and they committed some of their murders at the same time, though they did not appear to know one another...

...Long Island’s latest serial killer could have been not the third but the fourth in recent years, if the definition of “serial killer” was looser. In 1990, Allen Gormely, 37, a carpenter, confessed to killing prostitutes...
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Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/10/weekinreview/10killer.html?_r=0
 
LikeAHunter said:
(And now the number of SKs is 4+ with the addition of Bittrolff.)
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Unless Bittrolff is LISK, then it would still be 3+. I agree with you that it's something of a stretch to lump in the males with GB4, it doesn't seem to fit (though, unless you go with an organized crime explanation, the males really are an odd fit for most other scenarios as well).
 
Just heard from a good source that was once a serious POI may have been involved in a multi-million dollar swindle. If this is true it continues to support my suspicions that much of this is all connected together with people looking to protect each other.

In answer to the cross dressing post. Some years ago a former SC CE was involved in a MV accident. He was drunk, and he was dressed in women's clothes. NO, it wasn't LEVY.

Another person I have mentioned on this Board was believed to be the man coming out of a house that was under surveillance by a PI. It was a divorce case. The PI believes they knew who the man dressed like a women was.

This matter came to the attention of the plaintiff's lawyer. The lawyer asked this individual if he dressed up like a woman. The guy said, 'the moustache would have given me away.'
 
I've often wondered if being a "witness" to something serious, even something overheard, or for the investigation and/or prosecution of someone or some people isn't behind many of the OP and Manorville bodies. Or that the men and women victims broke some cardinal rule/rules and were killed either in front of others or dumped the same way as the most recent case (CB) in Bayshore. With her parts dumped the way they were in order to send a message/warning to those that know what happened or took part in what happened.
 
Just K said:
I've often wondered if "witness" to something serious or for the investigation and/or prosecution of someone or some people isn't behind many of the OP and Manorville bodies. Or that the men and women victims broke some cardinal rule/rules.
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Yours is a serious consideration. So far it looks like a "Band of Bandits" to me, with murders critical for the continuity of a crime syndicate, along with working girls victimized by a smaller fraction (perhaps two of them) within the band for their sexual, financial needs. I wonder what will come out of this when truth rises above the surface. Maybe the Asian Male was a contract job for the LISK crew... I really can't figure

I used to tend to go along with the LISK got angry to be tricked by the "Beautiful" Asian Male and unleashed his anger theory, Linzi did an excellent job giving an alternative point of view. Now, I tend to think like LISK knew quite well the Asian Male was a man. No surprise-triggered anger killing there.
 
Can somebody clarify one point about the Sex Offender Registry? Is it like you go in there and never come out or the records are deleted after a certain period of time? Thanks in advance.
 
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Regarding Dormer, this seems to contradict your own theory. Dormer said he believes it's one killer. You've said that you believe it's work of an organized crime ring. So I don't get why you'd be using Dormer to backup your theory. If I'm missing something, then please clarify.

Also, Dormer surely would have had info from FBI profilers...and so would the other higher-ups working on the case. Yet everyone in LE seems to disagree about the number of killers.

And don't forget, the FBI profile that was reported in the NYT and other MSM references one serial killer (of the GB4) who is organized and intelligent.
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I'm not using Dormer to back up my theory. His theory is his, mine is mine. Since I don't want to elaborate on mine, I recommend you pick a few words from his remarks which bear similarities to my tune.

I wouldn't say an organized crime ring, I explained before why I'm not using that term. At the moment "Band of Bandits" is sufficient for me. Two killers knowing each other is single killer IMO. Meaning, I'm not expecting multiple individuals who have no clue about each other dumping bodies around.

"Organized".... I despise this kind of fancy words. Intelligent???? Don't get me there. What kind of brainless donk puts bodies a few meters from the road? Where's the organization, where's the intelligence? Police couldn't catch him because they were busy shooing the families trying to report their girls missing so of course he must be "Intelligent". It took two years for Missy Cann to put her sister's DNA in the database or in other words he's got the "Serial Killer Luck" if you know what I'm saying.

"He" is stupid - like Dennis Rader stupid - another issue I don't want to elaborate more. I love to keep my time tested secrets to myself.

I'm not in congruence with the FBI profile (As pieces of it I saw) as well. Federal Bureau of ....

I'm not in a contest to prove my theory either. As long as he is caught and hopefully fried, *advertiser censored* me and *advertiser censored* my theory.
 
Emre remember when you asked why Megan didnt bring her make up? Well in light of the revelation that Megan may have brought her phone, I came up with something. The only reason aside from meeting a drug dealer to score real fast in the car (which doesnt match DS account)...is that they were going to a photo shoot where they would not need to bring make up....because photo shoots have make up artists.
 
LindsayLohan6 said:
Emre remember when you asked why Megan didnt bring her make up? Well in light of the revelation that Megan may have brought her phone, I came up with something. The only reason aside from meeting a drug dealer to score real fast in the car (which doesnt match DS account)...is that they were going to a photo shoot where they would not need to bring make up....because photo shoots have make up artists.
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I mean no disrespect but Amber doesn't look OK to me for being in a photoshoot during her last few months, you know heroin and stuff.

Remember Megan goes out at 01:30 AM. What photoshoot? As a matter of fact it's even too late to arrange a "business". Guys pick the girls earlier hours to have more of whatever they want. It looks to me that it was a slow business day for Megan.

Or let's do an exercise. Pick the most vulnerable one. (My pick would be Maureen) Try to create a chain of events she meets a homicidal John and let me ask a few questions. That Hannibal character does not breathe.
 
Why no sketch for Mom? Don't you wonder?

EDIT: I think I got the answer
The police found a bag containing what one law enforcement official said appeared to be “upper and lower extremities.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/12/nyregion/12bodies.html?_r=0

EDIT 2 - A different version
The remains "appeared to be part of a lower extremity," the source said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/04/18/new.york.bodies/

EDIT 3 - So where does the necklace and bracelets go exactly, if the remains are simply extremities? He put a leg in a bag and jewelries with it? Where is/may be the rest of the body? Another question; it sounded to me in Spota's press conf. that the "Brother submits DNA John goes to prison" automation was a newly introduced feature to the database. If there were no jewelry, would they think to compare the DNA specifically with the baby? Or the automation was there and it would tell the kinship anyway?
 
Emre E said:
I mean no disrespect but Amber doesn't look OK to me for being in a photoshoot during her last few months, you know heroin and stuff.

Remember Megan goes out at 01:30 AM. What photoshoot? As a matter of fact it's even too late to arrange a "business". Guys pick the girls earlier hours to have more of whatever they want. It looks to me that it was a slow business day for Megan.

Or let's do an exercise. Pick the most vulnerable one. (My pick would be Maureen) Try to create a chain of events she meets a homicidal John and let me ask a few questions. That Hannibal character does not breathe.
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in my experience every girl on the planet is delusional enough to believe they could be a model. Your right about the 1:30 quite late for a photo shoot. Most vulnerable to me is Amber, even tho she's probably the most street smart, she has a heroin habit so could be dopesick plus she her pimp is a junky with prolly no experience in pimping.
 
OK. Pick Amber and make her meet the guy who offers cash she can never refuse. Not now though, build a scenario that makes sense to you first and then lets take it to a ride on Ocean Parkway.

EDIT: Btw, in Amber's case only, Drug Dealer scenarios are not so bad.
 
Whats the explanation for DS claiming Amber was offered a grand to do an overnight? The 1:30 am of Megan reminds me of the 2:30 am of Shannan
 
Shannan - I have said that I believe it's CPH and MP has something to do with it.

Speaking in general; for any named individual including Brewer or the P.I.M.Ps Akeem, Vybe, Blaze, Craze whatever nonsense name they call themselves there's nothing I/we can do. Police has the duty of vetting the *advertiser censored* out of them and they have a sound recording, to begin with. I believe police doesn't even have a POI.

A grand overnight. Sounds like fitting with average escort rates. 2000 would make me curious, so to speak.
 
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