Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #9 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

Muslims have a problem. Uncle Ruslan may have the answer.

....“Uncle Ruslan” proved that folks can handle nuance. “It was wild, dramatic, angry, over-the-top,” wrote Washington Post blogger Alexandra Petri. She added: “People like Uncle Ruslan remind us that it’s the apples, not the barrel.”

She concluded: “Thank you. This was a moment we all needed.”....

....To me, the answer lies inside a culture shift where we honestly acknowledge the radicalization problems within our communities—so that no Uncle Ruslan has to step outside his home, confessing to something gone very, very wrong.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...-11e2-b6fd-ba6f5f26d70e_story.html?tid=pm_pop

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Elainera said:

Sorry have no link for that. Wondering if someone else here had heard anything about that or has some thoughts.

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danzn16 said:

Too many links to terrorist activity to be benign. He has to be involved with some other group. How many lone terrorist are there that are so radicalized, travel to areas of terrorism, twice removed from other terrorists, etc?? Not just some lone nut job

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noodled1 said:

Nobody knows who Misha is. Ghost, no digital footprint which means he's either very scary or not very good at self promotion in the modern age

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sorrell skye said:

Here's the thing for me: Russia's Federal Security Service asked the FBI to look into Tamerlan Tsarnaev back in 2011. From this article:

The FBI opened an investigation of Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011 at the behest of Russian officials who expressed concern that he was becoming radicalized and could be planning an attack in Russia.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...d426de-addb-11e2-8bf6-e70cb6ae066e_story.html

What I want to know is why Russian officials were concerned back in 2011 that Tamerlan was becoming radicalized & could have been planning an attack in Russia?

Putin may or not be posturing now, but I'm curious as to why Tamerlan was in Russia's crosshairs 2 years ago. I think there's much more to this backstory on Tamerlan & his family. Hopefully, trustworthy information will come out soon, explaining why Russia was suspicious of Tamerlan. He attracted their attention for a reason, IMO.

As it turns out, their concerns weren't unfounded, except that the terrorist attack occurred on US soil, and not Russian soil.

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The Russians provided information that included "two possible dates of birth, his name and a possible name variant as well," the intelligence official added.

The amount of information the Russians provided is at the center of a critical look at whether the government missed signals of a man described as emerging jihadist who may have been further radicalized overseas.

The FBI investigated Tsarnaev based on the initial information from the Russians before concluding he was not a threat.

A senior U.S. official with direct knowledge of the information says "the issue with Russia is that the initial information was extremely thin."

The Russians believed he was "becoming radicalized."

"There were no details, no examples, no threads to pull," the source said. "Because of the rather light nature of the information we did go back to them and asked can you tell us more. We never heard back."

"They did not give a case report back when the United States inquired," said another source with knowledge of the investigation.

Officials have said that the FBI investigation went as far as it could based on the vague information.

"I think we did everything within our legal authority to vet this individual. When all was said and done there was nothing to link him to terrorism," a law enforcement official said.

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bessie said:

“I’m not sure if we have any witnesses,” Cambridge police spokesman Dan Riviello said. “There was a surveillance camera at MIT that captured some information.”

The footage from that camera shows the Tsarnaev brothers approaching Collier’s cruiser from behind, he said. Police assigned to investigate Collier’s death have not interviewed Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, he said.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...cer-slaying/PKbh3IdCirTC3sAXb5fo1K/story.html

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Just K said:

Or that is not his name.

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noodled1 said:

Nice link thanks...

The problem is the Russians don't play fair, we may never know why TT was on their radar.. they ask for help and supply zero information up front then don't respond to requests for more...




http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/...-investigate-tamerlan-tsarnaev-official-says/

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noodled1 said:

Nice link thanks...

The problem is the Russians don't play fair, we may never know why TT was on their radar.. they ask for help and supply zero information up front then don't respond to requests for more...

The Russians provided information that included "two possible dates of birth, his name and a possible name variant as well," the intelligence official added.

The amount of information the Russians provided is at the center of a critical look at whether the government missed signals of a man described as emerging jihadist who may have been further radicalized overseas.

The FBI investigated Tsarnaev based on the initial information from the Russians before concluding he was not a threat.

A senior U.S. official with direct knowledge of the information says "the issue with Russia is that the initial information was extremely thin."

The Russians believed he was "becoming radicalized."

"There were no details, no examples, no threads to pull," the source said. "Because of the rather light nature of the information we did go back to them and asked can you tell us more. We never heard back."

"They did not give a case report back when the United States inquired," said another source with knowledge of the investigation.

Officials have said that the FBI investigation went as far as it could based on the vague information.

"I think we did everything within our legal authority to vet this individual. When all was said and done there was nothing to link him to terrorism," a law enforcement official said.


http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/...-investigate-tamerlan-tsarnaev-official-says/

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Capri said:

Why was he admitted? What illness or accident?

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Isabelle said:

Couldn't tell from that article whether ambulance was called last Thursday or this Thursday? Is it Thursday there already, could that be? I thought he was on his way to the US?

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The story of that night unfolds like a Tarantino movie, bursts of harrowing action laced with dark humor and dialogue absurd for its ordinariness, reminders of just how young the men in the car were. Girls, credit limits for students, the marvels of the Mercedes ML 350 and the iPhone 5, whether anyone still listens to CDs -- all were discussed by the two 26-year-olds and the 19-year-old driving around on a Thursday night.

Danny described 90 harrowing minutes, first with the younger brother following in a second car, then with both brothers in the Mercedes, where they openly discussed driving to New York, though Danny could not make out if they were planning another attack. Throughout the ordeal, he did as they asked while silently analyzing every threatened command, every overheard snatch of dialogue for clues about where and when they might kill him.

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belimom said:

Not sure if this has been posted, but for those Uncle Ruslan fans (and others as well), I thought you'd appreciate it. Although the title says 'Muslims', it can apply to any group, organization, or community. A very good read.

bbm

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sorrell skye said:

I wish the unnamed sources would have been indentified. His/her names may have been withheld due to security reasons, but I always like to know my sources, so that I can determine (for myself) if they're credible or not. A 'senior US official with direct knowledge of the information' may or may not be be trying to cover his/her own *advertiser censored*, and/or the so-called sources may or may not be credible sources. IDK

I can't help but wonder why the Russian Federal Security Service would have contacted the FBI 2 years ago requesting an investigation into Tamerlan Tsarnaev (of all people) unless there was a reason. I say 'of all people', because 2 years ago, who was Tamerlan, except a 24 year old dead-beat college drop-out Russian immigrant father?

Today, 2 years later, Tamerlan Tsarnaev is a deceased alleged terrorist.

I need to know why Russia was suspicious of him back in 2011, so much so that they wanted the FBI to look into him.

If Russia's Federal Security Service has more information on Tamerlan Tsarnaev and/or anyone else who may have influenced him (including possibly his family members), they need to share it with the FBI.

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sorrell skye said:

I wish the unnamed sources would have been indentified. His/her names may have been withheld due to security reasons, but I always like to know my sources, so that I can determine (for myself) if they're credible or not. A 'senior US official with direct knowledge of the information' may or may not be be trying to cover his/her own *advertiser censored*, and/or the so-called sources may or may not be credible sources. IDK

I can't help but wonder why the Russian Federal Security Service would have contacted the FBI 2 years ago requesting an investigation into Tamerlan Tsarnaev (of all people) unless there was a reason. I say 'of all people', because 2 years ago, who was Tamerlan, except a 24 year old dead-beat college drop-out Russian immigrant father?

Today, 2 years later, Tamerlan Tsarnaev is a deceased alleged terrorist.

I need to know why Russia was suspicious of him back in 2011, so much so that they wanted the FBI to look into him.

If Russia's Federal Security Service has more information on Tamerlan Tsarnaev and/or anyone else who may have influenced him (including possibly his family members), they need to share it with the FBI.

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jjenny said:

This Thursday.

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noodled1 said:

The odd thing to me is. First they request info from the FBI while he's in Russia, they give little to no information with the request... He's investigated, nothing turns up so the case is closed, then what was? it 10 months later the Russians ask the same thing of the CIA and supply them with the same baseless info. There's obviously something that has their attention but they won't say what.

I don't know...lol starting to feel like a Robert Ludlum novel

now the dad who was all set to come to the USA and talk is rumored to have been whisked off to the hospital. If that is true and he never makes it to the US it just affirms my remarks yesterday that dad possibly didn't feel safe speaking candidly in Russia and was coming here to tell the feds things he couldn't say at home.

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sorrell skye said:

For all anyone knows, this 'Misha' character may or may not even exist.

Has anyone from the Tsarnaev family mentioned him, besides Anzor & Zubeidat Tsarnaev?

Based on these parents' track record, I don't trust anything either one of them says.

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