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http://www.timescall.com/news_story.asp?ID=11652

"LONGMONT — Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy wants a say in her eight-year legacy as the county’s top law enforcement official.

Lacy will soon pass the mantle to her successor, Stan Garnett, who is running unopposed for the post.

But she worries that her leadership of the Boulder County District Attorney’s Office will be remembered for high-profile scandals primarily revolving around her handling of the JonBenet Ramsey homicide and University of Colorado football sexual assault investigations.

“I don’t believe there is anybody that bloggers had more of a field day with,” she said.

Lacy was sworn in as district attorney in January 2001 — she was Mary Keenan at the time — after besting two Democratic primary opponents and then a Republican challenger in the general election. Term limits prevent her from running for another term, but she said she has had her fill of political service." :woohoo:
 
Publish Date: 4/9/2008
Emotions high over murderer’s future

By Pierrette J. Shields
Longmont Times-Call

BOULDER — John Christopher Engel was barely 14 in 1999 when he killed his adoptive mother and grandmother in the family’s south Longmont home.

At 16, he pleaded guilty to bludgeoning and stabbing to death Mary Reinschmidt-
Engel, 56, and her mother, Catherine Reinschmidt, 82.

Now 22, he is eligible to have his 32-year sentence reconsidered on April 17. The possibility that Engel could be released to a Boulder halfway house has set emotions boiling.

“If they are wrong, an innocent person could die,” said Steve Reinschmidt, who is Mary’s brother and Catherine’s son.

He said the boy seemed fine two weeks before the bloody attacks, and he is worried that the calm his nephew has displayed while incarcerated could quickly take a dark and explosive turn.

“It was thoroughly planned, thoroughly thought out, and the victims were completely innocent,” Reinschmidt said of the murders.

Reinschmidt said he and his family feel alone in their fight to keep John Engel behind bars because Boulder District Attorney Mary Lacy and her staff have joined calls to alter the young man’s sentence to keep him out of prison.

To make the halfway house option a possibility, Lacy appeared in front of the Boulder County Board of Community Corrections on Tuesday morning to ask that it approve halfway house funding for Engel if Boulder District Judge Carol Glowinsky allows him back into the community.

“The time for this decision has come. Believe me, we have struggled very, very hard on this,” Lacy told the board. “We didn’t want to go against what the victims want in this case. ... We are supporting it because it is the right thing to do with this case, with this defendant.” :waitasec::confused:

Reinschmidt said he will return to Boulder next week to detail his family’s worries to the judge in a final effort to prevent Engel’s release.

On Dec. 11, 1999, Engel attacked his adoptive mother and grandmother with a hammer and a knife in the family home on the 2100 block of Indian Peaks Circle. Tom Engel, who was out for a jog when his wife and mother-in-law were killed, overpowered the teen and called police when he returned home.

http://www.timescall.com/News_Story.asp?id=7839
 
Killer to be jailed during probation investigation
By Vanessa Miller (Contact)
Originally published 11:56 a.m., October 16, 2008
Updated 11:57 a.m., October 16, 2008

A convicted killer who was released from prison and sent to a Boulder halfway house in July was back in court this morning after being jailed over the weekend for an unspecified probation violation.

John C. Engel, 22, wore a navy Boulder County Jail jumpsuit, glasses and his hair slicked back for his brief appearance in Boulder County District Court. A judge said Engel is suspected of violating the conditions of both his community corrections sentence and probation, and she granted attorneys and probation officers five weeks to investigate allegations against Engel.

Engel was booked into the Boulder County Jail on the probation violation Oct. 10 — about three months after he moved into the halfway house, 1770 21st St., on July 17.

At age 14, Engel — who experts said had a severe untreated mental illness — used a hammer and knife to kill his adoptive mother, Mary Elizabeth Reinschmidt-Engel, and her mother, Catherine Reinschmidt, on Dec. 11, 1999, in the family's Longmont home. Engel also tried, unsuccessfully, to kill his father, Tom Engel.

The teenager pleaded guilty to the killings in 2001 and was given a seven-year sentence at a juvenile corrections facility that was to be followed by 32 years in prison, after he turned 21. Instead, he was ordered in April to finish his sentence under "intensive supervision" in a community-based program and was placed on lifetime probation.

He started that new sentence with a 60-day "transition" period at the jail before being moved to the halfway house in July.

Boulder County District Court Judge Carol Glowinsky said — at the time she ordered the sentence change in April — that any violation would bring Engel swiftly back before the court.

"Community corrections is hard," Glowinsky said at the sentence-reconsideration hearing. "They're watching everything."

Engel's supervision was to include therapy, psychological evaluations and medical monitoring. Probation officials also recommended he wear a GPS monitoring device.

Officials with the Boulder halfway house said residents are placed into therapy groups and programs and have case workers assigned to them. They undergo daily checks to make sure they're complying with their probation conditions, and if halfway-house workers can't find a resident for any two-hour period, officials said, they're sent back to jail.

Glowinsky today said that at the next hearing, Engel will be asked to either admit or deny violating probation conditions. Depending on his plea, the court will set a date for a sentencing on the new charges or a hearing on the allegations.

Engel, during this morning's hearing, didn't say anything except "yes" to the judge and to his attorneys. Engel's father, who he tried to kill, was in the courtroom with his wife. Tom Engel didn't speak during the appearance and said he doesn't know anything about the alleged violations.

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2008...investigation/

:clap::clap::clap: Bravo, Mary KeenanLacyTracey, Bravo.......
 
At age 14, Engel — who experts said had a severe untreated mental illness — used a hammer and knife to kill his adoptive mother, Mary Elizabeth Reinschmidt-Engel, and her mother, Catherine Reinschmidt, on Dec. 11, 1999, in the family's Longmont home. Engel also tried, unsuccessfully, to kill his father, Tom Engel.

This was/is a twisted kid. He didn't just crack because he couldn't watch TV!What made Lacy think that anything the county did or could do was going turn him around??? The Quiche w/ fresh fruit for breakfast @ the jail? Not drinking the water in Longmont? Learning table manners?

When are people of Boulder county going to learn that time in "a program " or "with a shrink" for a psychopath is just like changing a shirt? "Tell me the rules and I'll play your game. Ain't I great."

Some people would call me a screaming liberal, this is a time when I'm just screaming...MAD.

OK...rant over...not really!!!

Just more poop to spew at the poor kid trying sell newspaper subcriptions.
 
agreed.if someone like this came after Spacey Lacy or one of her family members,do you think for one minute she would have tolerated it?!
 
“I don’t believe there is anybody that bloggers had more of a field day with,” she said.
damn straight.and she deserved every second of it.it was self-earned.to twist it blame the bloggers is Lacy wigging out yet again.

Term limits prevent her from running for another term, but she said she has had her fill of political service." :woohoo:
LOL! I would like to think we had something to do w that :)
 
Wonder what career path she'll meander down now? Hairdo consultant? Halfway house staffer? (I'd LOVE to see her do this)? Coroner's assistant? (this one is even better). I doubt she even looked at those autopsy pictures or read that report. It's easy to side with the accused when you are unaware of exactly what they did.
 
Now that M. Lacey will soon be a stay-at-home, ex-DA, I think she should take Engel to live with her. I bet he wouldn't be there long!!!!
 
Wonder what career path she'll meander down now? Hairdo consultant? Halfway house staffer? (I'd LOVE to see her do this)? Coroner's assistant? (this one is even better).
LOL! hairdo consultant would be my guess..she must have a lot of experience covering up those horns underneath her hair. :D
 
http://www.timescall.com/news_story.asp?ID=11652

"LONGMONT — Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy wants a say in her eight-year legacy as the county’s top law enforcement official.

Lacy will soon pass the mantle to her successor, Stan Garnett, who is running unopposed for the post.

But she worries that her leadership of the Boulder County District Attorney’s Office will be remembered for high-profile scandals primarily revolving around her handling of the JonBenet Ramsey homicide and University of Colorado football sexual assault investigations.

“I don’t believe there is anybody that bloggers had more of a field day with,” she said.

Lacy was sworn in as district attorney in January 2001 — she was Mary Keenan at the time — after besting two Democratic primary opponents and then a Republican challenger in the general election. Term limits prevent her from running for another term, but she said she has had her fill of political service." :woohoo:

Hi RiverRat.

Very interesting article.

"Lacy will soon pass the mantle to her successor, Stan Garnett, who is running unopposed for the post."

Huh? Running unopposed? Must be a thankless job? or ... ?.

"She will pass to Garnett the 1996 unsolved Ramsey homicide, which she inherited from her predecessor, Alex Hunter."

http://www.davidthielen.info/politics/2007/07/stan-garnett---.html

I was wondering if/how a new DA would focus on the JBR Case. "6 years of stasis." .... discouraging.
 
Hi TadPole.......love your location! Too Cute..........unlike politics in Boulder. I don't think that anyone I know is anticipating a "Change" or a "Maverick" to take charge of this uncharged homicide any time soon. :(
 
nope,I don't think the new guy is going to do the right thing and sell out his cronies in this case.would be great if he did though.
 
Hi RiverRat.

Very interesting article.

"Lacy will soon pass the mantle to her successor, Stan Garnett, who is running unopposed for the post."

Huh? Running unopposed? Must be a thankless job? or ... ?.

It's simpler than that, Tadpole12: there ISN'T any opposition. Trying to elect a Republican in Boulder is like trying to raise the Titanic remains with tweezers.

"She will pass to Garnett the 1996 unsolved Ramsey homicide, which she inherited from her predecessor, Alex Hunter."

http://www.davidthielen.info/politics/2007/07/stan-garnett---.html

I was wondering if/how a new DA would focus on the JBR Case. "6 years of stasis." .... discouraging.

Well, look at it this way, Tadpole: Mary Lacy has done one thing I thought was damn near impossible:

She made Alex Hunter look GOOD by comparison!

One thing you can always count on with the Boulder DA's office: the Peter Principle. These folks could *advertiser censored** up a cup of coffee.
 
Hey SD.

Ty for info re democratic 'reign' in BC.

and also ...... gee .... ML very is rather hyper sensitive re 'cybersleuths'?
Are y'all really the thorn in her side ???( a few nasty emails to the DA and or a few neg editorial comments in local papers?) or are the cybersleuths even worth menton?
 
Hey SD.

Ty for info re democratic 'reign' in BC.

and also ...... gee .... ML very is rather hyper sensitive re 'cybersleuths'?
Are y'all really the thorn in her side ???( a few nasty emails to the DA and or a few neg editorial comments in local papers?) or are the cybersleuths even worth menton?

She referred to us as Bloggers, so yes.......:takeabow:
 
Ty for info re democratic 'reign' in BC.
re: democratic reign,those in Boulder give all Democrats a bad name,period.they are the worst of the worst.I think there are good and bad ppl in both major parties,but the Dems in Boulder really take the cake.(I'm not saying anything bad about Dems in general;for several reasons,it is my party of choice).But I do believe in being fair and honest,and I'm not about to let them slide for the terrible injustice of JB's murder just b/c of their party affiliation.
 
Hey SD.

Ty for info re democratic 'reign' in BC.

My pleasure. My book contains a quote from a candidate who ran against her in the 2000 election, Ben Thompson. Also a Democrat, but he seems to have his head on straight:

"It's political, the reason that it hasn't been prosecuted. And we have a district attorney's office that is more political than it is a prosecutor's office. I'm sitting here listening to those two talk, or those three talk, and it's strange to me that Alex sounds more like a defense attorney than a prosecutor, and that's part of the problem. Let me say there is a cancer in our DA's office, and whenever anybody points it out, what happens is they attack whoever points it out instead of addressing the issue and trying to solve the problem."

I think it's helpful to remember that Mary Lacy had her mind MADE UP on day one, much like Trippy and for the same reason: not because of evidence, just because the Rs didn't "seem" like the "type" of people to do this.

Don't take my word for it. Frank Coffman is a Boulder-based columnist. He actually worked on Lacy's election campaign until he found out what a dog-lunch she is. He had this to say:

"Her basis for believing the Ramseys are innocent, as she explained it to me, is that the Ramseys don't have a history of being abusive parents that would be apt to kill their child," said Frank Coffman, who knew Keenan from volunteering on her 2000 campaign for district attorney. Coffman said, "At least from what she told me about it, she was basing her opinion on the Ramseys' innocence on the fact that they don't fit the profile of murdering parents."

Here's the kicker:

Because the Ramseys distrusted Boulder police - who they believed were fixated on them as suspects - John Ramsey was interrogated by veteran El Paso County homicide investigator Lou Smit and grand jury specialist Michael Kane, while Patsy was grilled by Denver district attorney's investigator Tom Haney and Boulder prosecutor Trip DeMuth. All interviews were videotaped and every few hours, completed tapes were transported from the Broomfield Police Department - where the interviews were conducted to avoid media attention - to Boulder, where they were studied by Boulder detectives and prosecutors, including then-Deputy District Attorney Keenan.

One source involved in those sessions recalls being told by colleagues that Keenan chided Haney for being too tough on Patsy Ramsey.

"Mary really had her nose in it, and thought that the Ramseys were being really pushed around," said another key law enforcement source.


Read that bolded area REAL careful! As I say in the book:

Tom Haney is one of the finest homicide detectives in the entire Rocky Mountain area, if not the country. His record speaks for itself. And here's this assistant DA, who at that time I don't think had ever tried a murder case in her entire career, and to my knowledge still hasn't, telling him he was too tough for using absolutely STANDARD interrogation techniques that the greenest rookie on the beat would know! Haney's general feeling was, "who the hell does she think SHE is?"

The finishing touch:

One of the Ramsey-case veterans who spoke about Keenan only on the condition of anonymity said that her background appeared to affect her attitudes toward the Ramsey case.
"Right after the (June 1998) interviews, she went in and sat down and spent two hours talking to the Ramseys about their suspicions about Santa Claus," the source said. "It was clear she thought this woman (Patsy Ramsey) was a victim. She is a very pro-woman prosecutor. Her whole life revolves around believing what women say. I think she is so empathetic she couldn't stand to watch someone, in her mind, being victimized."


Mary Lacy has allowed her radical feminist beliefs to cloud her judgment, what there is of it. Don't take my word for that. In Thomas's book, he writes,
"Deputy DA Mary Keenan said the body language of John and Patsy wasn't suggestive of deception, and that men were not in a position to judge Patsy Ramsey's demeanor."

WTF???!!!

and also ...... gee .... ML very is rather hyper sensitive re 'cybersleuths'?
Are y'all really the thorn in her side ???

I DAMN well hope so!

( a few nasty emails to the DA and or a few neg editorial comments in local papers?) or are the cybersleuths even worth menton?

"I'll chase her around Boulder County and 'round the Denver maelstrom and 'round Perdition's flames before I give up. From hell's heart, I stab at thee!"
 
Wonder what career path she'll meander down now? Hairdo consultant? Halfway house staffer? (I'd LOVE to see her do this)? Coroner's assistant? (this one is even better).


Defense attorney, natch. :behindbar
 
..glad you posted that,SD.nice to know there are a few good ones in Boulder.
 

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