AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #4

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Thanks - I could only find a listing for this on Craigslist --25 bucks a night-- seems like EJ is fan of Craigslist --
Here's the link to the ad http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/roo/1537399982.html


"Have fun with your money! Don't spend it all paying for a bed!. Santa Barbara is the newest, funnest, most eventful, and cleanest hostel In all Of South Florida! Come stay with us and see why the Santa Barabara will become one of the best hostels in the US."
http://www.instantworldbooking.com/Florida-hotels/The-Santa-Barbara-Hostel_Miami-Beach.htm

[sorry this was a discussion last night]

IFH is also called Santa Barbara. It looks like it was sold with a name change from Santa Barbara to IFH or vice versa. Wasn't able to confirm why the 2 names.
 
Definitely not enough, imo, since the same behavior continues.

What I find interesting is at the very beginning of this case, it was stated over and over in the media that the 'father,' ie Logan was a convicted 'felon,' and the mother had some court type history, but NOT violent.

Yet, we find that Logan's run in's with the law were five years ago when he was barely of age and NOTHING SINCE and NONE violent and it is the MOTHER who was placed in ANGER MANAGEMENT classes by children services. Now we hear about all of these 'violent' tendencies of the mom.

Just shows how when these cases first begin, one needs to take a step back and not make a judgement until the TRUTH starts seeping in.

JMHO
fran

PS....fwiw, I don't believe we've heard the WHOLE truth yet in this case, either.............fran
 
Logan's friend said Elizabeth was born in Boston, I believe and that her mother (?) was killed (possibly murdered when she was 11). Although she said EJ and Robert were in 5 foster homes so the math doesn't make sense. Never heard the parents names. I thought she said before that they moved back to Phoenix when they were 12 - maybe to be with the father. But I thought this was in conflict with soemthign she said yesterday. Maybe he/she will come back on here. I'm just going on memory here.

I dont know the exact dates of when Elizabeth lived in Boston or exactly when she moved to Az, or dates of the foster homes....I am logans friend, and met elizabeths brother a few times so the little I know about Elizabeths early life is the few comments her brother made. I dont know if foster care was before/after the mother died, and i dont know if it was in az or boston. I was more just trying to pass on the info that she obviously had a bad childhood. Her brother told me his mother was murdered, and from what I recall it was around the age of 11 or so, and sometime after that they moved to arizona. thats all i know.
 
Excellent theory, and how dumb can EJ be? she dumped her cell and gf's car to cover her tracks, and then she logs on and updates her MS? IMO she severed ties with TS at that point and was not being told what to do or not to do
Dumb as in the mentality of a teenager who just can't stay away from myspace - fortunately in this case, which I think led LE right to her.
 
PHOENIX -- The mother at the center of a missing baby case is back in Arizona.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/AP/story/1417973.html

This article says she is back in AZ. I am checking the booking site for Maricopa County and nothing yet. This could be because of a time lapse between booking and posting on the website. I hope it means that Detectives are talking to Elizabeth and she is talking to them.

Maricopa County booking search

http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetModule&mn=Mugshot

Thanks, their source seems to confirm your info from Arizona and HLN, too.

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/s...adited-to-Arizona/xgsbK2cK80iD5ZWBC0ifjg.cspx
 
Thanks - I could only find a listing for this on Craigslist --25 bucks a night-- seems like EJ is fan of Craigslist --
Here's the link to the ad http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/roo/1537399982.html


"Have fun with your money! Don't spend it all paying for a bed!. Santa Barbara is the newest, funnest, most eventful, and cleanest hostel In all Of South Florida! Come stay with us and see why the Santa Barabara will become one of the best hostels in the US."
http://www.instantworldbooking.com/Florida-hotels/The-Santa-Barbara-Hostel_Miami-Beach.htm

[sorry this was a discussion last night]

santa barbara craig list ad
Please note that this is a hostel hosting international travelers. Non-international travelers may check in ONLY if they can provide a valid American passport and proof of onward travel.

is that where she stayed ? so she would have to show a passport and proof of onward travel ?
 
What I find interesting is at the very beginning of this case, it was stated over and over in the media that the 'father,' ie Logan was a convicted 'felon,' and the mother had some court type history, but NOT violent.

Yet, we find that Logan's run in's with the law were five years ago when he was barely of age and NOTHING SINCE and NONE violent and it is the MOTHER who was placed in ANGER MANAGEMENT classes by children services. Now we hear about all of these 'violent' tendencies of the mom.

Just shows how when these cases first begin, one needs to take a step back and not make a judgement until the TRUTH starts seeping in.

JMHO
fran

PS....fwiw, I don't believe we've heard the WHOLE truth yet in this case, either.............fran
You're so right, fran. I was going by Logan's demeanor during his interview compared with everything we know about EJ and figured it out pretty quickly that he was being unfairly portrayed and she was actually the violent aggressor and liar. MOO
 
Am I doing this wrong? I don't fly much at all, so this is foreign to me... but it looks like Victoria TX is a pretty small airport and that they have a flight departure bound for Nashville on Sundays.

http://www.priceline.com/travel/air...C201001101759594184e1271007&plf=pcln&path=bak

Oh.... I think you are doing it exactly right!!!!

And Time - from the Airport's webpage, it does appear that small, private planes use this airport. From what I can determine the only "airline" that flies in and out is Continental. Everything else would be private.

Salem
 
santa barbara craig list ad
Please note that this is a hostel hosting international travelers. Non-international travelers may check in ONLY if they can provide a valid American passport and proof of onward travel.

is that where she stayed ? so she would have to show a passport and proof of onward travel ?

Which leads to the question in my mind..............was someone setting that up for her?
 
I don't know if this has been mentioned here. There a tons of Mexican-owned bus lines running under the radar between most Texas towns and Mexico.
 
yea bet the Smith's have it. Their house is worth 1 mil they could just put it up for bond if they wanted to get her out I bet. Lets see....
If they do I hope they don't mind losing their house.
 
Oh.... I think you are doing it exactly right!!!!

And Time - from the Airport's webpage, it does appear that small, private planes use this airport. From what I can determine the only "airline" that flies in and out is Continental. Everything else would be private.

Salem

Just so there is clarification as to what a "regional airport" actually is:

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_airport[/ame]
 
You're so right, fran. I was going by Logan's demeanor during his interview compared with everything we know about EJ and figured it out pretty quickly that he was being unfairly portrayed and she was actually the violent aggressor and liar. MOO

The other night when I watched NG, I was furious that she ALLOWED the Smiths to publicly demean Logan as a father and his 'reputation,' when NG knew NOTHING about his background. Then, when MK tried to defend the father against these two and their libelous statements, he was cut-off by NG. To add insult to injury, the next night when the LE officer was on and tried to defend Logan as a 'good dad,' NG CUT him off too!

I was soooo pizzzzzed! I don't know if I'll ever feel the same about NG again. Well, actually, I'd lost a lot of respect for her in the past year or so, but this was beyond the pale, IMHO.

JMHO
fran

PS>.........I noticed on this morning's interview, the Smiths are backing away from supporting the mom and her ehhhh.........reliability as far as the truth goes and they didn't retract anything they've said about Logan, but they at least didn't add to their biased opinion.....grrrr....fran
 
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