NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #5

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canadiangirl said:
It wasn’t until Oct. 3, the Tuesday morning after the shooting, that Lombardo walked the grounds of the Route 91 Harvest festival. Even 36 hours later, grizzly reminders of the carnage remained.“There were still bodies,” Lombardo said.


This part stuck out to me. Those poor families. 36 hrs later dead bodies in the Vegas heat. How heartbreaking and disturbing MOO

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We each have our boiling point as to what sets us off. This post of bodies still outside on Tuesday is despicable, humiliating, and gives us a true picture of how poorly Las Vegas is run!! Words escape me on this action!

Every single body is someone's loved one. How dare anyone make a decision that some be left outside!

If the families know if their loved one was one of those left out, I can see one more reason for lawsuits. IMO, this is truely a valid reason.

I am not on the conspiracy side YET, however, there are too many facts coming out that makes it appear that no one is in charge or knows what they are doing that has involvement in this case.

My opinions only.
 
canadiangirl said:
Actually if you listen to the scanner and I posted the timestamp as well, a man was spotted at the employee entrance of Bellagio with a rifle. There were a few other things highlighted, I don't recall them being discredited though.

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But this report turned out to be nothing. A Google search turns up nothing for me except this report they got. I don't even see the conspiracy sites popping up from my search.

It's very possible that someone who was armed, not knowing what was going to happen, took their gun out and ran for cover at this hotel entrance. It's also possible that someone thought they saw a rifle in the chaos and really saw something else.

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canadiangirl said:
I posted the police scanner further back from the night of the shooting as it happened.

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I added a link to my earlier reply. In fact the entire news report is interesting in that multiple shooters were initially suspected.
 
canadiangirl said:
I never thought he'd give an interview to begin with. Not after the turn of events
He's got security around him
People are speculating about him
Stories are changing.
I'm wondering if the interviews were set up when they were hailing this guy a hero.. MOO

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I hope he keeps listening to his lawyers advice and stays out of the news media. For some unknown reason, all the crazy people like to zero in on a witness/victim like him. They're crazy and dangerous. I was just out doing a quick search for a video from the killings and came across some horrible stuff on You Tube. The conspiracy idiots are insane on this, just the most disgusting, offensive stuff I've ever read. Don't people have better things to do with their spare time than try to trash the good reputations of innocent people? SMH.

Stay safe SG. Stay away from the madmen, esp those at Fox. You can't trust those talkers.
 
canadiangirl said:
Actually if you listen to the scanner and I posted the timestamp as well, a man was spotted at the employee entrance of Bellagio with a rifle. There were a few other things highlighted, I don't recall them being discredited though.

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Sounds like mass hysteria, typical in these kinds of events. Witness testimony is usually unreliable at a time when people are in a panic. There's no reason why anyone would try to hide information about other shooters. Stop and think for a moment. No one in authority gains anything by covering up something like that.
 
jjenny said:
At 10:16 p.m., an officer radioed his dispatch to "contact Mandalay Bay and have 'em shut down their elevators so he [the gunman] can't get mobile and we can take the stairs and block all the stair exits."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hotel-offi...timeline-las-vegas-shooting/story?id=50449104
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I know, but sG" had already done it.
Its normal protocol to shut down elevators, so that was a routine instruction.
Hotel should have been working off their own protocols which should contain same instruction. at any rate, it was pretty much over at that time.
Hotel security and police who were already present would have known elevators were not booby trapped so were safe for police to use.

jenny, who was found dead in a hotel room?
 
Betty P said:
I hope he keeps listening to his lawyers advice and stays out of the news media. For some unknown reason, all the crazy people like to zero in on a witness/victim like him. They're crazy and dangerous. I was just out doing a quick search for a video from the killings and came across some horrible stuff on You Tube. The conspiracy idiots are insane on this, just the most disgusting, offensive stuff I've ever read. Don't people have better things to do with their spare time than try to trash the good reputations of innocent people? SMH.

Stay safe SG. Stay away from the madmen, esp those at Fox. You can't trust those talkers.
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But why are they posting this stuff? To what end?
 
Jennifer17 said:
But why are they posting this stuff? To what end?
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I don't know. I guess they get some sort of psychological satisfaction from it. To make themselves seem important. A little fame on social media. It's pretty sick. We've seen it before. Not much different from the same people who gawk at a car accident or the type of person who stands watching a house on fire without helping rescue people.

ETA: Found an article about the psychological profile of conspiracy theorists - people who propose wild ideas about events that can never be disproven in their view:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/insights-into-the-personalities-conspiracy-theorists/


Common traits include low self-esteem and a belief that they have inferior intelligence.
 
Betty P said:
Thanks. Sorry, it has a paywall and I don't subscribe to WaPo. From what I understand, these are the same hysterical reports that were discredited. It's typical in these situations.
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I was able to read a few articles for free but I just noticed now I've also reached my limit.
 
I went searching for the MB protocols for emergencies. I did not find them yet.
From nYT article https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/mandalay-bay-jesus-campos-security-casino.html

Casino security guards in Las Vegas do not fit the stereotype of whistle-blowing mall cops who chase shoplifters. Many are former police officers or military veterans who work now in plain clothes. They go through special training programs. Their forces are often led by people with experience at the highest levels of law enforcement, and they cooperate closely with the local police.

While a police officer typically gets around 500 hours of academy training before joining the force, most security officers at major Las Vegas casinos get 40 to 80 hours’ initial training, according to Lenny Davis, a security consultant here.

As investigators continued to piece together what drove Mr. Paddock to kill, security officers were as visible as ever at Mandalay Bay on Thursday. They were posted at each of the three elevator banks leading to guest rooms, making sure that only those who had key cards got through. They rode around the perimeter of the property on bicycles, and guarded the barricades at the driveway to the front entrance, which remained closed. One officer was dispatched to a room occupied by reporters to tell them that interviewing employees on the property was forbidden.

The training includes de-escalation tactics, self-defense, water rescue and first aid, Mr. Shepherd said. Once officers are on the job, they receive periodic retraining.

The head of Security should be giving the interviews here..
 
Gooddeeds said:
-m00, is it confirmed by Hannity that Campos cancelled or that he left the studio?
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I found this on twitter:

Sean Hannity‏Verified account @seanhannity 3h3 hours ago

He cancelled.

Laura LoomerVerified account @LauraLoomer
How come @seanhannity didn't run the #JesusCampos interview tonight? #LasVegasShooting
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I just watched a horrible video of an alt right actiivist who calls herself an investigative journalist stalking the home of sG1. twice, she visited.
She did not gain entry or anything else.. but she cheapens the memory of the dead..
(I blocked her yrs ago on twitter, but I had a look)
She was basically interviewing herself.. in true narcissist attention seeking fashion.
There were no other journalists present on any of her 2 self serving intrusions.
 
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Jesus Campos was set to do 5 intvs tonight per union president, but they’ve lost contact. “We were in a room & we came out & he was gone”

[video=twitter;918668372987977729]https://twitter.com/WashNews/status/918668372987977729[/video]
 
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Jesus Campos was set to do 5 intvs tonight per union president, but they’ve lost contact. “We were in a room & we came out & he was gone”

[video=twitter;918668372987977729]https://twitter.com/WashNews/status/918668372987977729[/video]
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What does that mean? It says nothing. Or it says that they never had his approval that he would give an interview, because Fox News.
 
MistyWaters said:
I've been wondering that as well, 32 flights of stairs, not going to happen in seconds.
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I was baffled by this also, then I saw an article saying they took the elevator to the 31st floor and the stairs to the 32nd, which makes a lot more sense time-wise.

There have been several versions so who knows for sure what's true, but this seems like a reasonable explanation.
 
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