GUILTY Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #7

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It seems incredible in this day and age when almost everybody carries a cellphone with a camera, that the victim would have to stay trussed up for hours until an official police photographer arrived to document it. Even in the case of serious traffic accidents, EMS workers extract victims from mangled cars ASAP even though the police may close down the road for a day to investigate.
 
dotr said:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/0...s-took-break-from-his-crimes-to-contact-base/
"The day before he broke into Lloyd’s home to abduct her, Williams was asking military officials via email whether a visit to CFB Trenton by Helena Guergis, then minister of state for the status of women, and Leslie Natynczyk, the wife of the chief of defence staff, could be delayed.

He pointed out that the pace of operations at the Trenton base was high and suggested it wasn’t a good time for the women to visit."
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Interesting comment under article!
 
http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2011/10/03/russell-williams-the-tragic-vital-news-story/
"But more than anything else, the Williams story is a look at a fortunately rare part of the human condition. That Williams could conduct such awful crimes and not be noticed by his peers, and in fact promoted by his betters shows that reform of the promotion process in the military is vital. Williams could have done much worse over time.

The RCAF has a glorious history and we all respect its valour and heroism. If it is to retain that wonderful public image, it must deal with the Williams situation and its implications pro-actively. And it doesn’t do that by sweeping the Williams situation under the carpet"
... more to this blog
 
http://www.thestar.com/living/article/1067491--memoir-recounts-marriage-to-man-arrested-for-assault
"Moroney is blond with a sunny personality, a stark contrast to the story she tells: five years of seemingly bottomless grief, the painful guilt-by-association directed at her and the tortuously slow criminal justice system.

She wrote the book to call attention to the correction system's woeful inadequacies, and to be a voice for families stigmatized by their loved ones' crimes.

During the case of Russell Williams, the former CFB Trenton commander convicted of two murders and sexual assaults, she felt great sympathy for the victims and Williams' wife, Mary Elizabeth Harriman.

“My heart went out to her. I was angry the media targeted her, saying, ‘How could she not have known,' ” says Moroney, who sent Harriman a sympathetic note but didn't hear back"
 
Andy Lloyd had one wish as a grim anniversary loomed for his family
Updated: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:22 PM EDT
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BELLEVILLE, Ont. -- Andy Lloyd had one wish as a grim anniversary loomed for his family.
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Today marks the one-year anniversary of Williams' sentencing to life in prison for the killings of Jessica, 27, of Belleville and Cpl. Marie-France Comeau, 37, of Brighton, Ont. His sentence also includes his sexual attacks on two Tweed, Ont., women and numerous break-ins and thefts in Belleville, Tweed and Ottawa.
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But it is difficult to heal when the spectre of Williams and his crimes continues to intrude on their lives, Lloyd said.

He criticized the release of a book about Williams' crimes and plans for a movie spinoff.

Camouflaged Killer: The Shocking Double Life of Canadian Air Force Colonel Russell Williams by Belleville's David A. Gibb was released Oct. 4 by Penguin Group (Canada). It has been optioned for film production by Montreal's Richard Lowry Productions Inc. with production expected to begin next year.

It's the second book on Williams; the first, A Different Kind of Monster by Timothy Appleby, was announced within hours of police announcing they'd arrested the colonel. It was published April 1.

&#8220;We were not impressed at all that there's another book and the fact that there's movie rights,&#8221; Lloyd said Thursday.

He confirmed he and his family are considering civil action against Williams and may be more outspoken in opposing future book and movie projects.

&#8220;Every time somebody wants to write a book, I'm sure they're not thinking about us too much.&#8221;

(full article at link ^)
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Lloyds, Jane Doe won't sue police over Russell Williams case
Updated: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:29 PM EDT
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Massicotte is now suing Williams and his wife, Mary-Elizabeth Harriman, as well as the Ontario Provincial Police for $7 million.

Massicotte's Belleville lawyer, David Ross, said Thursday he couldn't comment on the case.

&#8220;I should get instructions from my client before I do,&#8221; he said.

&#8220;The statement of claim's been filed; it hasn't been served.&#8221;
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But Jessica Lloyd's brother Andy, 31, said Thursday his family has retained legal counsel and may sue Williams, but not police. He noted his family's legal interests are separate from Massicotte's case.

&#8220;We're looking at some sort of legal action &#8230; It would be strictly just against him (Williams),&#8221; said Lloyd. &#8220;We as of now have no intention of doing anything against law enforcement.

&#8220;We still think they did a great job,&#8221; he said.

&#8220;Since then, I've become great friends with some of the guys on the (Belleville Police) force,&#8221; said Lloyd.

&#8220;I was glad to hear some of those OPP guys got commendations&#8221; for their work on the case, he added.

The Lloyd family has retained Belleville lawyer Mike Pretsell, but neither he nor Andy Lloyd would discuss potential lawsuits in detail.

&#8220;At this time there's been no claim on behalf of the Lloyds and I can't comment further,&#8221; Pretsell said.

Pretsell also represents Jane Doe, the first of Williams' victims to sue the killer.
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BELLEVILLE &#8212; The first woman attacked by Russell Williams and the families of two women he killed have no plans to sue police, QMI Agency has learned.

&#8220;There's not going to be a lawsuit by Jane Doe against the police,&#8221; Pretsell said Thursday, declining to elaborate on her decision and saying he was abiding by Doe's wishes.

Doe, now 22, was attacked Sept. 17, 2009 in her Tweed-area home by Williams.

She is suing Williams and Harriman for $2.45 million in damages. That suit was filed May 6 at Belleville's Ontario Superior Court of Justice.

Doe's allegations have not been proven in court. Harriman has refuted them through a statement of defence; Williams has retained a lawyer, but has not filed such a statement.

Pretsell said he's also spoken with Marie-France Comeau's father, Ernie, who is not taking civil action.

&#8220;There are no proceedings contemplated by Mr. Comeau,&#8221; said Pretsell.
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(took the liberty of respectfully separating the three lawsuits in different quotes for easy reading -- read more at link ^)
 
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/1...-interrogation-techniques-derail-murder-case/
National Post Staff Oct 24, 2011 &#8211; 7:41 PM ET


By Joseph Brean

Jim Smyth, the star Ontario Provincial Police interrogator who famously pried a confession from sex killer Russell Williams, has a reputation that demands a screenplay. As a top Canadian practitioner of the modern art of police interrogation, it is his job to bring forensic psychology to life, using conviviality and guile to convince murderers to skip trial and go straight to jail.



Major successes include his work on the interrogation of Michael Briere, who confessed to killing 10-year-old Holly Jones in Toronto in 2003, and his profiling in the case of Tori Stafford, 9, which led him to discover the girl&#8217;s remains by following a hunch to a rural field.



But now Detective-Sergeant Smyth&#8217;s sly charm and relentless pursuit of confessions have derailed a major prosecution, leading a judge to rule a suspected murderer&#8217;s admission of guilt was involuntary and possibly false, and therefore inadmissible....
 
dotr said:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/1...-interrogation-techniques-derail-murder-case/
National Post Staff Oct 24, 2011 – 7:41 PM ET


By Joseph Brean

Jim Smyth, the star Ontario Provincial Police interrogator who famously pried a confession from sex killer Russell Williams, has a reputation that demands a screenplay. As a top Canadian practitioner of the modern art of police interrogation, it is his job to bring forensic psychology to life, using conviviality and guile to convince murderers to skip trial and go straight to jail.



Major successes include his work on the interrogation of Michael Briere, who confessed to killing 10-year-old Holly Jones in Toronto in 2003, and his profiling in the case of Tori Stafford, 9, which led him to discover the girl’s remains by following a hunch to a rural field.



But now Detective-Sergeant Smyth’s sly charm and relentless pursuit of confessions have derailed a major prosecution, leading a judge to rule a suspected murderer’s admission of guilt was involuntary and possibly false, and therefore inadmissible....
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Thanks, Dotr, for posting that. Worth the read.

I am going to refrain from commenting.
 
Yes. I only now got back to reading the whole of that article after having it pop up in a Google alert on Williams. While Smyth's interrogation of Williams can't really be faulted because of the former colonel's high intelligence and education, such methods could be devastating on suspects of low mental capacity and produce any confession the police desired. In the civilized world torture during interrogation is not permitted, but this can amount to mental torture of a weak suspect. Personally, I feel it's deplorable that police interrogators are allowed to lie to elicit the result they seek.
 
Has anyone read the Camouflaged Killer by David Gibb?
 
otto said:
Regarding the assets of MEH, we have a situation where a member of her family has committed horrible crimes. His victims want compensation, and she is included in their lawsuit. If this lawsuit is successful, it could set a very dangerous precedent such that families of adult criminals are placed in financial ruin because of the crimes committed by family members.
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When it is a spouse and they transfer assets from joint holdings to just the non guilty spouse they deserve to be sued IMO.IIRC It was done sneaky IMO.She is luckier then some,she has a good job and makes good money. There are no children being raised,even if she loses his half of HIS assets really no different then a divorcing couple who's spouse is not jailed IMO.:waitasec:
 
NEWS!!!

Russell Williams's neighbour sues after suspected in crimes

CBC News - Last Updated: Nov 28, 2011 7:28 AM ET

A man who lived next door to Russell Williams in eastern Ontario is suing the serial sex killer, a neighbour and local police for wrongfully implicating him in the former military commander's crimes.

Larry Jones and his wife, Bonnie, filed their $1,575,000 suit late Friday in Peterborough, Ont.

Jones is suing Williams for the emotional and mental distress suffered as the subject of an intense police investigation, while Williams did nothing to alert police that they had the wrong man.
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Full article and VIDEO @ link: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/11/27/russell-williams-larry-jones.html
 
Yeah, I saw that on the news. From all reports, it looked like Williams was treated very respectfully by the police, while Jones was manhandled and pushed around and not told anything. It does look like there are different standards for the "rich" and the "poor".
 
JayFriend said:
Yeah, I saw that on the news. From all reports, it looked like Williams was treated very respectfully by the police, while Jones was manhandled and pushed around and not told anything. It does look like there are different standards for the "rich" and the "poor".
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Wish Mr. Jones all the best!!! He deserves it after all he was put through!

We still don't know whatever happened to his old coat, greasy lighter and some other item that went missing from his garage.

We don't know for sure if it was RW who took those items, but IF it was him, we can all just imagine what the intention could have been.
 
Hazel said:
We still don't know whatever happened to his old coat, greasy lighter and some other item that went missing from his garage.

We don't know for sure if it was RW who took those items, but IF it was him, we can all just imagine what the intention could have been.
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If RW had them then they're likely in a police evidence locker but weren't needed because he confessed. Perhaps Mr. Jones should ask for them.
 
"Serial killer Williams' divorce proceedings should be public: lawyer"

Well, it would be juicy, but hasn't the wife had about as much media exposure by now? Of course, there are those who suggest she's somehow implicated in his crimes. If that's the case, then I feel no sympathy for her welcome all the dirty linen coming out.
 
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